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post #46 of 106
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Originally Posted by macdevign View Post
 


....and so music alone  can't be the only reason why people enjoy music.   Some equipment with the right synergy seems to produce the sound nirvana with your music to create that kind of emotion connection (think Apple product)  that one find it unforgettable and make you glue to your seat for hours. 

OK, I'm back to my computer so my posts should make more sense!;)  Mac, for me it's simple, if one loves music one should want to hear it sounding at its best.  When I was younger I was into switching gear frequently but as I got older I settled down with a system that sounds great and now I mostly spend my money on music!  Don't get me wrong, and I make this point for the OP, I'm not bored by the gear, but my interest ebbs and flows.  But way before I ever got into the gear, I was always into the music, whether it was coming from a lousy radio or crappy turntable, the music always lifted my spirit!  I had a friend who wasn't terribly into music but he came to my house and heard my system and was floored.  He wanted what I had.  The dude was a successful businessman so he had bucks.  He went out and bought a top of the line Meridian/Mirage based system that sounded great.  But he only owned less than a dozen CD's!!  after a short while he got bored with it and sold it off!  Music's gotta come 1st!!  I've owned my Sennheiser HD600's for over 10 years, before that I had AKG 240's.  I've owned 4 different HP amps.  I've always appreciated good headphone sound BUT...I've never felt the need to go out and buy more cans, I'd rather spend money on music, it's where my focus has always been.  I hang out on Head-Fi 'cause I like looking at all the eye-candy and enjoy the youthful enthusiasm but the original post left me shaking my head in wonder.  While I understand getting tired of being on that upgrade merry-go-round, saying that he's ready to try another hobby suggests that music is something he can take or leave, reminds me very much of my businessman friend!;) 

post #47 of 106

Does anyone else get sucked into the 'CD vs hard drive' spiral ? You know how it goes - 'I havent heard music from a hard drive that sounds as good as my dedicated CD/SACD player !'. The main reason this one periodically rears its ugly head with me is that I've never heard a really good CDP - budget constraints meant I had to settle for the likes of NAD and CA entry-level models. I also continue to be seduced by the idea of the CDP as a transport for my Chord Hugo, but less entranced by the notion that I would have to buy more CDs to make it a good move going forward. For every lightbulb moment I have there seems to be a dimmer somewhere  :D

post #48 of 106
if your gear costs more than your music, you're doing it wrong biggrin.gif
post #49 of 106
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Originally Posted by gevorg View Post

if your gear costs more than your music, you're doing it wrong biggrin.gif


well, I guess different individual place different value on their music and their gear. I enjoy the music but I can't help constantly thinking if the music can be elevated to another level with the right synergy of hardware and software. Music is timeless and priceless compare to hardware that has limited lifespan. But still regardless whether they really enjoy their music or their gear more, the most important is that they enjoy the hobby as a whole foremost :L3000:.  After all this is really just a hobby , though may be expensive one for some in the quest for the "ultimate" sound.

 

that say I feel there is nothing wrong if gear cost more than music (if music can be qualified by monetary term at all :bigsmile_face:)  because hobby is often irrational and some people willing to pay ridiculous price just to enjoy the hobby  ;) , be it music or be it gear, or anything else. The act of tinkering and experimenting with different combination of audio components could just be the way for them to enjoy this hobby and sustain their interest.

post #50 of 106
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Back to Head-Fi -- I feel that portable technology has definitely evolved considerably over the last few years. When I first went looking for IEMs to use in a portable rig, EVERYTHING I tried was awful, even IEMs costing $500 or more. Now there are IEMs for <$100 that sound great. The latest $1k CIEMs from some companies now no longer have what I call the "IEM sound" where the treble sounds unnatural. In DAPs too, nobody took the AK240 seriously until they tried it. The first thought I had when I tried it HD-800s was "Bull****! This can't be possible." But that was with binaural tracks. I sure as heck wouldn't have bought one if I was still listening to Van Halen (the recordings of whom are quite poor, even now) as I was doing 10 years ago.

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I yesterday listened to "Dr. Chesky's Amazing Sound Show" (binaural+ recording) for the first time on my HD800.

These recordings are freakingly realistic :D .

When he starts to walk from the side of the church towards "Lars" and ends up whispering in your ear :eek:.

As usual for these kind of demo CDs the sound examples are to show off the technological achievement (in the recording set up but as well as in your playback set up) but other than the short term excitement it will end up on the shelf.

The SQ of the recordings is just amazing, so I will explore some more of these.

post #51 of 106

I feel like I'm definitely getting close to the peak, but I don't think I've lost any interest. There are still so many headphones and equipment I've yet to hear that I would really like to hear, and new stuff is always coming out (increasingly so in this market). The most significant aspect of this hobby that keeps me interested is the music. I'm always buying new records and albums. There's an ocean of music out there and I'll only get a chance to listen to a bay's worth in my entire life. :)

post #52 of 106

I think I may have lost interest in reaching anything that even resembles 'the peak'  ;)

 

Let's face it - the peak moves from one month to another here anyway, although it's difficult to deny that in headphone terms there are 3 main contenders - two from Stax and one from Abyss. From there, its the partnering electronics and the quality of your recordings - blindingly obvious to most here, but I'll stick with the HD800 / LCD-X 'middle ground'.  At least we dont have to treat rooms and build mancaves to enjoy our Barry Manilow collections !  ;)

post #53 of 106
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I think I may have lost interest in reaching anything that even resembles 'the peak'  ;)

 

Let's face it - the peak moves from one month to another here anyway, although it's difficult to deny that in headphone terms there are 3 main contenders - two from Stax and one from Abyss. From there, its the partnering electronics and the quality of your recordings - blindingly obvious to most here, but I'll stick with the HD800 / LCD-X 'middle ground'.  At least we dont have to treat rooms and build mancaves to enjoy our Barry Manilow collections !  ;)

 

Peak in Price? Sure, Peak in Quality - not necessarily.

post #54 of 106
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Originally Posted by ToddTheMetalGod View Post

I'm sort of already at that point, even with my lowly modded HE-400. I feel that with speakers I get much greater performance/dollar and more choice of products this way. I plan on buying some Totem Mite's to replace my Paradigm's and then a DacMagic 100 (with my O2 as pre-amp), but after that it might be over. Also, since speakers are more expensive I might have a better chance at a longer ladder of equipment to move up. After I reach my personal point of dimishing returns I plan on entering the DIY community and enjoying making my own gear.

But is your setup far from the top?:D

post #55 of 106
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But is your setup far from the top?biggrin.gif
Well speakers aren't as inexpensive as headphones, really one could spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a perfect speaker setup compared to probably about ten thousand on a perfect headphone setup. In my opinion, I'm nearly satisfied with my equipment. So close to what I want.

If I had an unlimited budget though, I would probably get a pair of Magnepan 3.7 speakers, a Rythmik F12 subwoofer, a Simaudio Moon 330A integrated amp, and a Schiit Gungnir. Something along those lines wink.gif. If only I could win the lottery.
Edited by ToddTheMetalGod - 7/4/14 at 7:11am
post #56 of 106
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But is your setup far from the top?biggrin.gif
Well speakers aren't as inexpensive as headphones, really one could spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a perfect speaker setup compared to probably about ten thousand on a perfect headphone setup. In my opinion, I'm nearly satisfied with my equipment. So close to what I want.

If I had an unlimited budget though, I would probably get a pair of Magnepan 3.7 speakers, a Rythmik F12 subwoofer, a Simaudio Moon 330A integrated amp, and a Schiit Bifrost. Something along those lines wink.gif. If only I could win the lottery.

You make a good point here, but I guess what they meant is with their money they couldn't find any thing that can make the sound better. I am kind of stuck in a wired situation recently. With the same budget I can get a decent speaker setup while I could improve my headphone sound just a little bit, so I guess I am not going further for my phone setup. In my opinion, what we listen to is music but the machine. Without good music, high end equipment is useless.

post #57 of 106
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Originally Posted by gahung View Post

You make a good point here, but I guess what they meant is with their money they couldn't find any thing that can make the sound better. I am kind of stuck in a wired situation recently. With the same budget I can get a decent speaker setup while I could improve my headphone sound just a little bit, so I guess I am not going further for my phone setup. In my opinion, what we listen to is music but the machine. Without good music, high end equipment is useless.
Yeah, it's definitely not all about the gear. But the gear adds to the experience and learning about the science behind audio, hearing songs out of different setups, and reading about new equipment is always a good time... even if you're not in the market for anything new biggrin.gif.
post #58 of 106

i don't mind spending a decent sum on equipment as equipment is important and complements the music (currently 1K CDs and 1TB lossless).

post #59 of 106
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Originally Posted by XVampireX View Post
 

 

Peak in Price? Sure, Peak in Quality - not necessarily.

 

I take your point but chances are that I'll never get to hear the SR009 - or its sibling - from a BHSE so its all academic for me. The Abyss is a slightly different proposition as I suspect the Taurus would drive the phones - I just really wouldnt be comfortable spending that kind of money on speakers much less a pair of headphones even if TAS fell all over themselves trying to find adjectives to describe the sonic capabilities of the AB-1266. End of the day, there will always be a select group here who own several of the TOTL 'phones and the amps needed to drive them - consensus would seem to be that the Abyss is as good as it gets for a conventional headphone. 

post #60 of 106

The thing with this hobby is that it's not a matter of reaching the top, it's about keeping in the hobby.

I may have not reached the peak yet,  we'll have to see what that peak looks like with an end game amp like Auralic Taurus mk2 that I'm getting soon.

I don't think I will lose interest, I love both music and equipment, I've always loved it, used to listen to Sony MD Walkman when I was a kid, hehe - here:

 

 

 

Again - Love both music and equipment, can't see this hobby dying, I'm starting now starting ;)

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