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post #1 of 18
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So they are here. Been listening to Led Zeppelin number one all day.

 

 

Well, I have hoped that Jimmy would do some of the magic he did for the Song Remains The Same Remaster. I think he did. The first album is great. The first album is the only HD Zeppelin I own. Been listening to it over and over again. The music I am so familiar with having cassette tapes even when I was 12, over 40 years ago.LOL

 

 

I have the 90s box set and have played it on some good stereos over the years. Still, I'm hearing things I have never heard before. It is actually spooky because it is a recording that I know is old but it sounds brand new at times. There is a really good character to the guitar. There is so much personality to the guitar. It almost makes me think its a remix. I don't know how all this sound was in the guitar tracks and never made it to the original vinyl pressings or CDs?? It is like hearing it again for the first time. So the bands drummer is dead and the remaster is by the guitar player, so you would think the drums would be put back in the mix but they are not. The bass is one of the best parts, just tight and full and so clear. Amazing! I guess this is digital technology at it's best.

 

 

There is Zeppelin One, Two and Three so far.

 

 

You can get em here at 29.98 each.

 

http://www.hdtracks.com/new

 

I think Presence will really be something special. The original vinyl and CD remaster always seemed a little compressed?

 

 


Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/4/14 at 9:08am
post #2 of 18

So, do you have to get the Deluxe Version for the remaster? I'm not into live tracks that much. 

 

I have the 4 cd box set and I thought it sounded horrible. Very thin and lacking bass. To my amusement, when my girlfriend (now wife) moved in she had the same box set!

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After the 15th remaster of the Beatles I really overlooked these at first glance but did a double take and will be checking them out for sure.  You are right the original discs are not that great, not even sure which versions I have gathering dust at home.

 

For CD versions there are the regular, deluxe, and super deluxe editions; all should have the remasters.  Talk about a cash grab:

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_416329422_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1002402631&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=auto-sparkle&pf_rd_r=1A247TZF64B3ET728V78&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1811558842&pf_rd_i=led%20zeppelin%20remasters

 

I'm going for the deluxe editions which are just the regular albums + bonus extra disc.  The super deluxe includes the HD downloads but at about $120 a pop... I dunno.  Usually remasters are awful but it seems these are getting some praise on SHforums.

post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by vipervick View Post

So, do you have to get the Deluxe Version for the remaster? I'm not into live tracks that much. 



 



I have the 4 cd box set and I thought it sounded horrible. Very thin and lacking bass. To my amusement, when my girlfriend (now wife) moved in she had the same box set!


 



I don't care about the live tracks either.

The new remasters were created from 192 kHz/24 bit digital transfers of the original analogue tapes. The catalogue is being remastered now to take advantage of the significant advances in mastering technology that have occurred since 1991.

Please Note: Track 10 is 44/24, and tracks 11-17 are 48/24.




Led Zeppelin (Deluxe Edition)
Available in Audiophile 96kHz/24bit

Title: Led Zeppelin (Deluxe Edition)
Artist: Led Zeppelin
Genre: Rock, New
Label: Atlantic Records
Release Date: 2014


You can buy individual tracks.
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by Mr.Sneis View Post

After the 15th remaster of the Beatles I really overlooked these at first glance but did a double take and will be checking them out for sure.  You are right the original discs are not that great, not even sure which versions I have gathering dust at home.



 



For CD versions there are the regular, deluxe, and super deluxe editions; all should have the remasters.  Talk about a cash grab:



 



http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_416329422_3?ie=UTF8&docId=1002402631&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=auto-sparkle&pf_rd_r=1A247TZF64B3ET728V78&pf_rd_t=301&pf_rd_p=1811558842&pf_rd_i=led%20zeppelin%20remasters



 



I'm going for the deluxe editions which are just the regular albums + bonus extra disc.  The super deluxe includes the HD downloads but at about $120 a pop... I dunno.  Usually remasters are awful but it seems these are getting some praise on SHforums.


 










I have also been suspect of the plethora of reissues of CDs and the trend to add sub-par extras, which in my mind are not even good?
I have been listening to the Deluxe HD and all I can say is it's totally amazing. This is coming from someone who prefers vinyl 100% of the time. So I wonder if it is just the quality of the way everything was somehow discovered in the original tapes and moved forward or what? I am hearing stuff I have never heard in this first record. It's a thrill for these old ears. Lol.


The way Jimmy Page uses a violin bow in a couple places is so spacious and big. You hear it far out from side to side and the sound quality sounds like it was recorded in 2014 not 1969. I can't believe what gold was in those analogue master tapes!!

We have had a couple reissues of classic albums in HD, but this one takes the cake!




I also wonder if these are actually remixes and not stated. Doing a remix would really flip some lids. But if Jimmy did a low level remix and did not list the process anywhere it may go over well.


The acoustic guitar in Your Time Is Gonna Come sounds really amazing like it has a phase effect. Maybe it was a two track Flanger effect that you could not hear in the original vinyl. I can't wait to read what others think of the guitar sound and if others think the original tracks where put into an effects process, making the album technically a remix not a remaster?
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/4/14 at 6:33pm
post #6 of 18

But but but, is the non-deluxe remaster the same without live tracks? I'll buy  the live tracks, but I'd rather get just the studio tracks.

post #7 of 18

They should be, wouldn't make any sense otherwise.

post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by vipervick View Post

But but but, is the non-deluxe remaster the same without live tracks? I'll buy  the live tracks, but I'd rather get just the studio tracks.

Yes.

I downloaded the "deluxe" editions of I and III and the "remastered" edition of II based on my optimism about the quality of the bonus material. The live show included with I is essential, IMO, while the other two are for completists only.

I'm not a Zep expert -- can't compare Diaments with Japanese SHMs or the like -- but I've personally never heard the albums sound better. Digital or analog.
post #9 of 18

I'm sick and tired of Led Zeppelin remixes of the first albums. I want what the LP used to sound like... loud, in your face, punchy. That box set is horrible, and I'm not going to spend any more money on LZ until I know it's put back the way it was again.

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I'm sick and tired of Led Zeppelin remixes of the first albums. I want what the LP used to sound like... loud, in your face, punchy. That box set is horrible, and I'm not going to spend any more money on LZ until I know it's put back the way it was again.


It may not be a remix. Just super clear?
post #11 of 18

The original LPs jumped out at you. They sounded really loud and raw. The CD releases I've heard sound clean, but wimpy in comparison, and the vocals aren't balanced right. For those of us who were around when these albums originally came out, remixes too often end up straying away from what we liked about the music in the first place. The Beatles are smart. With the exception of Let It Be and Rubber Soul, they've never allowed their music to be remixed. Revolver and Sgt Pepper sound the same only clearer. The Stones totally messed up several of their albums by remixing them for SACD. I'm waiting for the Led Zeppelin remaster that sounds the same only clearer.

 

The CD box set of 1, 2 and 3 don't sound *anything* like the LPs. If this new release sounds like the box set, I'm definitely not interested even if it is cleaner.


Edited by bigshot - 6/5/14 at 2:08pm
post #12 of 18

I've no skin in selling these to you bigshot but to my ears they are subjectively better than the old Marino re-mastered discs I had for years (bought in my early days without a care for the mastering).  I may or may not have the original vinyl releases somewhere in my house but I have the feeling the grooves may be really worn down or scratched.  I have no desire to fight hipsters over vinyl to scoop up at inflated prices.  CD's it is for me!

 

If you have any interest the Steve Hoffman forums Music Corner has a few threads regarding the hi-res, CD, and vinyl releases.  Some like them, some don't so you're not alone in your feelings.

post #13 of 18

Anyone done an A/B comparison with the previous release? I'd be interested in hearing what the differences are.

post #14 of 18

The question is, is it better than the Japanese CDs of the original mixes? Up till now, the Japanese CDs of the original mixes are the best digital versions.

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Originally Posted by StratocasterMan View Post

The question is, is it better than the Japanese CDs of the original mixes? Up till now, the Japanese CDs of the original mixes are the best digital versions.


The Japanese CDs and the new HDs are two different animals. I'm still from the school that if 16 bit is done right it's perfect and all you need. I have heard the Japanese mini album remasters.These remasters are just a different sounding thing all together. If it didn't sound so fluid and natural you could complain. It sounds like the originals except there is just more character to each instrument and Robert Plant's voice. Your listening and you say to yourself, oh? "He sang it like that?" There is just a whole new level of detail.

In the end it is like there were parts that were covered up sonically in the song but now each track has it's own area so you can her every detail.
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/7/14 at 4:47am
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