Originally Posted by cjl
Originally Posted by Redcarmoose
Solid state amps will most likely get to the exact sound of tubes if they have not already.
God I hope not, at least not if you're correct that tubes still have "warmth". Amps should be perfectly transparent, and have no sound signature - basically a "wire with gain". Anything else is not worth wasting the time and money on, given how easily the ideal amp (to the limit of audibility) can be achieved with modern solid state technology. I want my amp to reproduce the signal I feed it with a higher amplitude, not try to "add warmth".
I did read the whole thread before making my first post here. I think the very second post said something about how each amp having it's own sound. I kind of look at all amps as being their own thing. I just purchased a JDS c421 today. Even though this thing is the size of a pack of cigs it's interesting. There is no perfect amp, no perfect sound. That said I do think that you can get very close to the perfect sounding amp for your ears. They are out there to find.
What makes this hobby what it is, is excepting the drawbacks of amps and enjoying them for what they are and what they are not. I think we live in amazing times where new styles of electronics are made all the time, plus we still have all the 1930s technology for that type of amp if you want one.
The cool part is you can try stuff at a show or even go to the effort to purchase test and resell again saving money. Every amp has it's own personality and the lower cost ones actually have way more personality and qwerky qualities.
The expensive amps just power and get out of the way. Kind of boring after awhile. Lol
Edit to follow.
It's not just the color/warmth added by the amp either. It's everything in front adding something. I also don't think there are any perfectly flat colorless headphones? I may have missed something though? Of course, in a perfect world we would demand absolute transparency. Things just don't work out that way in life. Expect audio companies to both search for audio transparency and look for ways to make the sound musical. Sometimes many of us believe they actually degrade the transparency to make equipment more musical, kind of like woman's make-up.
When they first invented audio amplification and music playback it was the sound of an orchestra recreated in a house which was and still is the absolute goal of HI/Fi. (Remember that making money is also the absolute goal of HI/FI) Later in the 1970s music tried to make us even feel like we were outdoors listening to the breeze pass above us upon the wavering sides of leaves?
The reality is with any audio invention the listener has never been fully convinced of the recreated audio as truth. Never happened and never will. We can be startled at times by our minds thinking sound in the headphones are in real life but fooling us only for a brief second before our idea of reality takes over again.
Even if you spent a gazillion dollars and your complete system was ruler flat in frequency response ............1) You may not really like what you hear. And 2) there are still going to be thousands and thousands of nuances affecting your sound perception. In the end your still always going to remember it's Memorex.Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/15/14 at 6:23am