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Is Audeze LCD-2 with very good gear better than LCD-3 with normal gear?

post #1 of 32
Thread Starter 

I've been thinking if I should buy an Audeze LCD-2 + Moon-Audio Silver Dragon V3 Headphone cable + Moon-Audio Silver Dragon V3 USB-cable + Alo Audio Pan Am + Passport battery pack,

 

Or an Audeze LCD-3 with just the stock cable + cheap USB-cable + Alo Audio Pan am without Passport battery pack.

 

These cost about the same amount of money so I would really appreciate it if someone told me which set would sound better.

 

Thank you!

post #2 of 32

Probably the LCD-3 setup. Headphones always make the most difference, followed by gear, then cables. 

post #3 of 32
LCD-3. That's the big bullet to bite. Piece together a system as you can afterwards. Don't worry so much about blowing dough in fancy cables. Upgrade if the stock ones take a dump.
post #4 of 32
Thread Starter 

Okay, Thanks for this information :)

 

So the LCD-3 set will sound better even when used with stock cables?

post #5 of 32

The step up from the LCD2 to the LCD3 is not proportional to price so keep that in mind.  I wouldn't worry about cables until the rest of your setup is up to where you want it.  Priority should go source, headphones, then the rest.

 

An alternative is to get the LCD2 with a different amp (if you aren't dead set on the ALO).  Maybe consider this combo with a DAC of your choice:

 

http://www.ttvjaudio.com/Apex_Peak_and_Audeze_LCD2_Package_Deal_p/aaa0000091.htm

 

Another combo I personally got to listen to and liked was the Audeze with a Schiit Mjolnir and Gungnir.

post #6 of 32
Thread Starter 

Great, Thanks!

 

I think that I'm gonna get the LCD-3 setup first and then think about cables and better amps :)

post #7 of 32
Thread Starter 

So do you think that the Apex Peak amp is better with LCD-2/3 than the Alo Audio Pan Am?

 

I've read that the Pan Am is excellent with Audeze headphones.

post #8 of 32
Thread Starter 

And does the Silver Dragon V3 cables really have a much better sound quality than the stock cables and cheap usb cables?

post #9 of 32

Can't say, but I love the Toxic Cables Silver Poison. 

post #10 of 32
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Originally Posted by AnalogSavior View Post
 

The step up from the LCD2 to the LCD3 is not proportional to price so keep that in mind.  

 

Agree, I think the LCD-3 sounds vastly better than the 2 at only about double the cost.

post #11 of 32
Thread Starter 

Great, thanks for this important information!

 

So is the difference between the LCD-2 and 3 really that big? What I've heard they should be like 20% better at double the price.

post #12 of 32
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Originally Posted by Sebab View Post
 

Great, thanks for this important information!

 

So is the difference between the LCD-2 and 3 really that big? What I've heard they should be like 20% better at double the price.

 

No, its not that big of a difference. What you heard is correct. You pay double, but you don't get headphones that are twice as good.  Its an incremental improvement.  Some have said its not even an improvement, and that it just sounds different. 

 

Some people think its worth, others don't.  Its just something to consider, and truthfully, auditioning both is the only way you'll ever be able to tell if its worth it.

post #13 of 32

Buy the LCD 2 and cheapo cables. For future reference when parsing head-fi, anyone who suggests upgraded USB cables is too far gone into audiophile dementia to have any grasp of the concept of value.

 

The difference between the LCD 2 and the LCD 3 isn't all that great and a fair number of people actually prefer the tonality of the 2. It's really worthwhile to sample these headphones first to see if they are what you are looking for and if the upgrade to the LCD 3 is worth it to you.

post #14 of 32
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Originally Posted by anetode View Post
 

Buy the LCD 2 and cheapo cables. For future reference when parsing head-fi, anyone who suggests upgraded USB cables is too far gone into audiophile dementia to have any grasp of the concept of value.

 

But cryo treated, 110% pure platinum cables hand built my monks really makes a huge difference!!!

post #15 of 32
The LCD-3 might only be 20% better, but the 20% is disproportionately important. They're far better than the 2, make no mistake about that.
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