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Are smartphone's catching upto DAP players?

post #1 of 9
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I own a Fiio X3 & i'm more than happy with it, but on Tuesday I will be getting a simfree Samsung Galaxy S5, know i keep hearing that the S5 is very good with music can play both FLAC & 24bit aswell, so be interesting to see how it stacks up against my Fiio X3 using my AT's-M50X headphones, my current mobile is the iPhone 5 16GB while it isn't to bad as a music device but it not a patch on my X3, hence i tend not use it to play music.

 

So what do you think smartphones will eventually catch upto the cheaper DAP on the market such as the X3, DX50 ect.

post #2 of 9

phones running android have been able to play almost every audio format for quite a while.  There have always been a ton of 3rd party apps to support a ton of formats if the stock player doesn't.  Phones have caught up in the storage department I guess with 64gb micro sd cards being widely available and 128gb micro sd cards right around the corner for consumers.  

 

I think what most phones lack and will continue to lack is power/current through their headphone jacks.  

post #3 of 9
I know this isn't a smartphone, but my iPod Touch 5G is excellent for a consumer DAP. It has plenty of output power for portable headphones and a great DAC. The only problem is using the Camera Connection Kit for line-out uses a DAC in the kit, not the great internal one... so extra power is out of the question. I think it sounds better than my Dragonfly to be honest. It images extremely well, doesn't have the slight bass emphasis the Dragonfly does, and seems to be neutral (maybe a bit smoother and recessed in the highs compared to other DACs... but the detail is there, just not as much sparkle/shimmer).
Edited by ToddTheMetalGod - 5/26/14 at 2:18am
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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

I think what most phones lack and will continue to lack is power/current through their headphone jacks.  

 

Just look at Sony selling the PHA-1/2. Way more profitable for them to sell a proper good amp than to improve the headphone jack, and moreover, it's much easier to persuade head-fiers with the former than the latter anyway. No matter how good the headphone out is, external amps are the ones with street cred.

 

What I wish most phones had are more configurable hardware buttons, but now there's an alternative to even that: you can go the expensive route, and use a smartwatch to control playback.


Edited by heatofamatch - 5/27/14 at 1:51am
post #5 of 9

in a word.

 

no.

 

 

and they never will.  the reason is phones are convergence devices, you make compromises to get everything in one package.  a proper separate DAP works on the idea you care about audio quality, the good ones anyway obviously i dont mean ipod touches, so they put in better chips, better amps so it sounds better.

post #6 of 9
Yes they already have. In this day in age it is not difficult to convert digital to analog. The only difference is that most phones don't have the amplifiers that dedicated DAPs do.

If people would really listen to their phones and daps blindly with the levels matched, they would set their bias' aside and see that the differences are not as great as they think. I guess this hobby wouldn't be as fun and the newest thing wouldn't always be the best.
post #7 of 9

In my experience they are getting further apart

My Nokia N8 sounded superb, much better than my present Lumia 920 and Iphone5

I think the Iphone5 is the worst DAP I have heard, a Clip sounds much better

Plus my N8 worked with USB OTG Fiio E7 - the other two won't

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Originally Posted by KT66 View Post

In my experience they are getting further apart



My Nokia N8 sounded superb, much better than my present Lumia 920 and Iphone5



I think the Iphone5 is the worst DAP I have heard, a Clip sounds much better



Plus my N8 worked with USB OTG Fiio E7 - the other two won't

 



your post is exactly what I was talking about with bias

Take a look at this post

http://www.head-fi.org/t/680853/sony-nwz-zx1-35th-walkman-anniversary-model/5430#post_10582378

I am just not seeing how this could be the worst DAP ever.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/iphone-5/audio-quality.htm
post #9 of 9

there are a couple of phones with stronger than average AMPS - see the threads on the htc one m8 and the lg g3.  the issue, however, is the dac.  

 

all the snapdragon 800 and 801 phones use the dac built into that soc, which is not as good as the dacs built into dedicated dap's.  this applies the the u.s. variants of the phones, since some phones - i think some of the samsungs in particular- don't use the snapdragons in their european or asian models, and therefore use different dac's in those regions.

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