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I just got done building my mini desktop gaming rig. I went the itx route so i have no extra slots for a high end sound card. 

 

so that leaves stand alone equipment right? atleast that is what i think

 

I have the dt-770 pro 80ohm version. they seem kind of muddy at times.

 

I dont want to set a real price range, as i want to spend what is needed. ofcourse being a college student i would love for it to be on the cheaper side. 

 

I am open to diy, but have never done any diy electronics, so that may mean i cant build the super awesome mega fancy insert name here amp lol.

 

Any help would be appreciated. I am working on building my lossless collection.

 

Feel free to ask anything you need to know.

 

edit: i forgot to say, i will be using this setup for everything, i am a gamer, i watch alot of anime and movies on my computer, i also listen to music. genres for music are rock(hinder saving abel theory of a deadman etc) country( garth brooks toby keith tim mcgraw taylor swift etc) some dance/house(cascada basshunter etc) rap occasionally(ti lil wayne eminem) 80s rock

Thanks,

V

 

ps: pc specs incase it matters

 

i7 4770k

16gb ddr3 lo pro ram

msi 780 ti gaming series

corsair h100 cpu fan

silverstone sfx 450w gold

crucial 480gb msata ssd


Edited by Vortaku - 5/24/14 at 11:13am
post #2 of 12

A Schiit stack could be an easy and affordable solution. Magni/Modi would run you about $200.  Its also possible to go cheaper with something like a Fiio portable amp/dac.

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Originally Posted by AnalogSavior View Post
 

A Schiit stack could be an easy and affordable solution. Magni/Modi would run you about $200.  Its also possible to go cheaper with something like a Fiio portable amp/dac.

i am going to look into that, but at that price range is there a better value by chance? maybe slightly more then the 200 but its a noticeable step up?

post #4 of 12

There might be, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.  Realistically, you will be hard pressed to find a better value at $200, but maybe someone else with chime in with another suggestion.

 

Check out innerfidelity.  They have reviewed a few amps in your price range.  Here is a link to his wall of fame.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-headphone-amplifiers


Edited by AnalogSavior - 5/24/14 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by AnalogSavior View Post
 

There might be, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.  Realistically, you will be hard pressed to find a better value at $200, but maybe someone else with chime in with another suggestion.

 

Check out innerfidelity.  They have reviewed a few amps in your price range.  Here is a link to his wall of fame.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-headphone-amplifiers

+1 to M/M combo for value.

 

If you're looking to DIY, this is another option http://www.garage1217.com/garage1217_diy_tube_headphone_amplifiers_005.htm in addition to the Bottlehead Crack.  Been tempted to do one of these as well.  

 

FWIW, I've built DIY Pre-Amps and Amps in the past for my audio system and it's pretty straight forward...IF the directions are good.

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by Vortaku View Post
 

I just got done building my mini desktop gaming rig. I went the itx route so i have no extra slots for a high end sound card. 

so that leaves stand alone equipment right? atleast that is what i think

I have the dt-770 pro 80ohm version. they seem kind of muddy at times.

edit: i forgot to say, i will be using this setup for everything, i am a gamer, i watch alot of anime and movies on my computer, i also listen to music. genres for music are rock(hinder saving abel theory of a deadman etc) country( garth brooks toby keith tim mcgraw taylor swift etc) some dance/house(cascada basshunter etc) rap occasionally(ti lil wayne eminem) 80s rock

ps: pc specs incase it matters

i7 4770k

16gb ddr3 lo pro ram

msi 780 ti gaming series

 

What is the make and model of your motherboard?

What slots (PCI-E/PCI) are filled?

 

Modi DAC (optical) and Magni headphone amplifier ($200+tax/shipping).

Using an optical DAC will allow you to work with the features built into the motherboard's on-board audio.

For something lower cost, Sound blaster Surround Omni 5.1 USB sound card, $80

post #7 of 12
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What is the make and model of your motherboard?
What slots (PCI-E/PCI) are filled?

Modi DAC (optical) and Magni headphone amplifier ($200+tax/shipping).
Using an optical DAC will allow you to work with the features built into the motherboard's on-board audio.
For something lower cost, Sound blaster Surround Omni 5.1 USB sound card, $80


I am totally open to the modi magni, I just wanted to make sure that there isn't an upgrade in the 50 dollar range that would blow the combo out of the water.

I am using an asroxk z87e-itx. It is in a ncase m1. The 780 ti is in the pcie slot. The other slots kn the board are open, tho im not sure I could cram anything else into that tiny case!


Thanks,
V

Ps: let me know if I missed something
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by Vortaku View Post

I am totally open to the Modi Magni, I just wanted to make sure that there isn't an upgrade in the 50 dollar range that would blow the combo out of the water.
I am using an Asrock z87e-itx. It is in a ncase m1. The 780 ti is in the pci-e slot. The other slots kn the board are open, tho I'm not sure I could cram anything else into that tiny case!
Ps: let me know if I missed something

 

That is one small motherboard and it only comes with one slot.

You motherboard comes with the ALC1150 audio chip-set and a TI NE5532 headphone amplifier.

So for on-board audio you have a fairly decent audio setup.

It's surprising that your DT880 Pro 80-Ohm headphones sound muddy.

 

I would say to install the latest audio drivers, either from Asrock or straight from Realtek.

Then check all the audio settings, see if something is incorrectly set.

 

You might even try deleting all the audio software, reboot the computer into the BIOS, disable on-board audio (in the BIOS),

then boot up to windows, hopefully that will remove whatever audio settings Windows has.

Then reboot into BIOS, enable the on-board audio, boot to windows and install the latest audio software and check all settings.

 

Nothing wrong with investing into the Modi/Magni (or Vali), but might as well makes sure your getting the best from the on-board audio, before spending, maybe $240, for the external DAC/Amp.


Edited by PurpleAngel - 5/24/14 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post
 

 

That is one small motherboard and it only comes with one slot.

You motherboard comes with the ALC1150 audio chip-set and a TI NE5532 headphone amplifier.

So for on-board audio you have a fairly decent audio setup.

It's surprising that your DT880 Pro 80-Ohm headphones sound muddy.

 

I would say to install the latest audio drivers, either from Asrock or straight from Realtek.

Then check all the audio settings, see if something is incorrectly set.

 

You might even try deleting all the audio software, reboot the computer into the BIOS, disable on-board audio (in the BIOS),

then boot up to windows, hopefully that will remove whatever audio settings Windows has.

Then reboot into BIOS, enable the on-board audio, boot to windows and install the latest audio software and check all settings.

 

Nothing wrong with investing into the Modi/Magni (or Vali), but might as well makes sure your getting the best for the on-board audio, before spending, maybe $240, for the external DAC/Amp.

i will look into that for sure. thanks!

 

vali? whats that?

post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by Vortaku View Post
 

i will look into that for sure. thanks!

 

vali? whats that?

 

RE Vali: Its a hybrid amp offered by Schiit.  Its $20 more than Magni, and gives you a little taste of what tubes can offer.

post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by AnalogSavior View Post
 

 

RE Vali: Its a hybrid amp offered by Schiit.  Its $20 more than Magni, and gives you a little taste of what tubes can offer.

 

not sure about giving a taste of what tubes can offer. what is sound like in comparison to the magni?

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Originally Posted by Vortaku View Post

i am going to look into that, but at that price range is there a better value by chance? maybe slightly more then the 200 but its a noticeable step up?

Most people here seem to think that the Modi/Magni offers the best bang for the buck at $200.
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