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The new Apple iOS8 June 2nd 2014

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Rumor

 

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/10/high-definition-itunes-music-downloads/

 

http://www.whathifi.com/news/apple-plans-high-res-audio-for-ios-8-devices

 

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/13/hd-audio-ios-8-new-in-ear-headphones-lightning/

 

http://www.stuff.tv/apple-bringing-hi-res-audio-ios-8/news

 

http://www.whathifi.com/news/apple-wwdc-2014-to-start-june-2nd

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/hi-rez/id57895780

 

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/05/13/macotakara-apple-beats/

 

So word on the street is it will coincide with 24 bit /192 kHz release of the Led Zeppelin remasters for sale.

 

 

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And.........

 

 


New IEMs also, to hear it with.

 

 

Finally, the report notes that Apple is working on a new version of its In-Ear Headphones to accommodate high-quality audio playback. The premium in-ear headphones have not been updated since 2008, however the product is still officially sold by Apple at its retail locations and in its Online Store for $79.

Apple is expected to introduce iOS 8 at WWDC 2014, which will kick off on June 2. In addition to potentially enabling high-definition audio playback, the new mobile operating system is expected to include major improvements to Siri and Maps along with a rumored "Healthbook" app that displays various fitness and health-related information.

Apple will also likely debut OS X 10.10 at the event, and may introduce Beats Electronics co-founders Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre as new senior advisers following a likely forthcoming announcement regarding its acquisition of the audio company.

 

 

 

But there is more........

 


 And.................Apple's acquisition of Beats Electronics.

 

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/05/09/drdre-and-jimmy-iovine-to-join-apple/


Edited by Redcarmoose - 5/21/14 at 3:22am
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Looking forward to iOS 8, however, as with all things hi-res (concerning audio), I'm fairly skeptical that I will hear a difference at all.

 

I'm probably mostly looking forward to all the rumoured health integration, iWatch and stuff. Imagine just telling Siri that you're going out for a run and she'll take care of everything, not having to take out your phone and load up apps (and risk dropping it on the ground), or just ask her how far you're into a half marathon, etc. Imagine a GPS tracker enabled iWatch that is a smart watch and activity tracker at the same time. I am admittedly getting my hopes up here, however, I promise not to cry when Apple probably meets just a fraction of my expectations. :o

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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post
 

Looking forward to iOS 8, however, as with all things hi-res (concerning audio), I'm fairly skeptical that I will hear a difference at all.

 

I'm probably mostly looking forward to all the rumoured health integration, iWatch and stuff. Imagine just telling Siri that you're going out for a run and she'll take care of everything, not having to take out your phone and load up apps (and risk dropping it on the ground), or just ask her how far you're into a half marathon, etc. Imagine a GPS tracker enabled iWatch that is a smart watch and activity tracker at the same time. I am admittedly getting my hopes up here, however, I promise not to cry when Apple probably meets just a fraction of my expectations. :o

http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/ipod-touch-5g/audio-quality.htm

 

Well, the cool part is it will not cost anything to try it with our current Apple products. There are a ton of questions like what the current DACs in the 5th gen Apple Touch do in terms of 24 bit/192 kHz output. I seem to hear differences with DTS audio and a little with 24 bit/ 192 kHz in Foobar. So ?

 

 

 

But yes, I'm not waiting for the sea to part or the second coming here on June 2nd. LOL

 

What ever it sounds like will be interesting, but I'll wait to get my blood-pressure up.:rolleyes: 

 

 

This seems almost like a catching-up process. So many aftermarket software developers are offering programs but now it will be part of I-Tunes. If you like I-Tunes?


Edited by Redcarmoose - 5/21/14 at 2:26am
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Well, personally I just use Spotify and to my knowledge, they aren't using 320 kbps audio there. To be honest, I have a hard time distinguishing between Spotifys streaming and more hi-res (flacs) on my computer. The biggest difference seems to be in the headphones, amp and dac - in that order. Unless you're listening to 128 kbps mp3's, you probably won't notice much (I know I won't). However, the interesting part here could be what happens after that: will HD audio become the norm in the same way hi-res TV/movies have more and more become the norm, or will it just be a fad?

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Well, personally I just use Spotify and to my knowledge, they aren't using 320 kbps audio there. To be honest, I have a hard time distinguishing between Spotifys streaming and more hi-res (flacs) on my computer. The biggest difference seems to be in the headphones, amp and dac - in that order. Unless you're listening to 128 kbps mp3's, you probably won't notice much (I know I won't). However, the interesting part here could be what happens after that: will HD audio become the norm in the same way hi-res TV/movies have more and more become the norm, or will it just be a fad?


Well, it is super marketing on Apple. Just if they are able to get a small percentage of folks to re-buy tunes in HD. Seeing a big player switch to HD may actually be a turning point in the industry like you said.

 

 

Many of us have seen it tried so many times before with less than accepted results, with DVD Audio for an example.

 

 

Who knows.................... it could be like fireworks on Christmas morning?:D 

 


Edited by Redcarmoose - 5/21/14 at 3:05am
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Well, it is super marketing on Apple. Just if they are able to get a small percentage of folks to re-buy tunes in HD. Seeing a big player switch to HD may actually be a turning point in the industry like you said.


Many of us have seen it tried so many times before with less than accepted results, with DVD Audio for an example.


Who knows.................... it could be like fireworks on Christmas morning?biggrin.gif  


why they haven't put SD cards on the iPhone and iPod is confusing me to high heck. Now that extremely high res audio is able to be played back, I ask what's the point of doing it if you only get to bring a handful of lossless music? Nah. I don't think this will really change anything. Teens probably wouldn't like the 80mb per song size of lossless. No. Teens will stick with lossy aac/mp3 tracks, unless we also see a surge in high fidelity audio equipment being bought by teens. (unlikely.)so, sadly, this isn't really going to do anything for non-audiophiles. Maybe if apple markets lossless tracks, they'd be bought... Then, apple would be criticized because people played it back in their ibuds or iPhone speakers and didn't notice a single difference from their other non-HD files.
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why they haven't put SD cards on the iPhone and iPod is confusing me to high heck. Now that extremely high res audio is able to be played back, I ask what's the point of doing it if you only get to bring a handful of lossless music? Nah. I don't think this will really change anything. Teens probably wouldn't like the 80mb per song size of lossless. No. Teens will stick with lossy aac/mp3 tracks, unless we also see a surge in high fidelity audio equipment being bought by teens. (unlikely.)so, sadly, this isn't really going to do anything for non-audiophiles. Maybe if apple markets lossless tracks, they'd be bought... Then, apple would be criticized because people played it back in their ibuds or iPhone speakers and didn't notice a single difference from their other non-HD files.



Well, it will be the streaming services with the big bit-rate maybe. You join then pay about $90 a year to stream HD. That way you don't have to worry about storage. Still even if more folks join for 16/44.1 streaming, they have higher play back to be cutting edge.



Movie and song streaming services is where I think Apple will be going with software and hardware. They have the user base and investment so the future just holds a possible application.
Edited by Redcarmoose - 5/25/14 at 6:34am
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Nokia has a service on all Lumia phones called mix radio that offers high quality streaming for 48$ a year, and for 112kbps its free... Plus, I've used beats music... I was not impressed. Nokia mix radio actually has more songs and recognizes what you like better than Pandora and the other services too. I use it quite often. There's a reason almost nobody on windows phone uses Pandora or beats music. Mix radio is superior in every way. Heck, it has K-pop, J-pop, chillstep, Glitch Hop, dubstep, house to name a few of the choices for electronic music, and then there's orchestra, jazz... Any type of music. EVEN AFRICAN TRIBAL MUSIC.
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Nokia has a service on all Lumia phones called mix radio that offers high quality streaming for 48$ a year, and for 112kbps its free... Plus, I've used beats music... I was not impressed. Nokia mix radio actually has more songs and recognizes what you like better than Pandora and the other services too. I use it quite often. There's a reason almost nobody on windows phone uses Pandora or beats music. Mix radio is superior in every way. Heck, it has K-pop, J-pop, chillstep, Glitch Hop, dubstep, house to name a few of the choices for electronic music, and then there's orchestra, jazz... Any type of music. EVEN AFRICAN TRIBAL MUSIC.


I was thinking about what 3.2 billion was. Simply 1000 million X 3.2. I just contemplated that for awhile today.

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I was thinking about what 3.2 billion was. Simply 1000 million X 3.2. I just contemplated that for awhile today.
sennheiser pulls in around 568,000,000 a year, Nokia is projected to have a net income after expenses of 1,300,000,000€ this year after they bought out siemens from the Nokia siemens networks (now called Nokia solutions and networks) for 2,300,000,000€, and sold Nokia mobile department to Microsoft for 7,680,000,000€. After they sold the mobile department, their profits jumped from -698,000,000€ to the before mentioned number. Microsoft is pulling in US$ 21.86 billion, and apple is making US$ 37.037 billion... Rap your head around those numbers!!
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Looking forward to iOS 8, however, as with all things hi-res (concerning audio), I'm fairly skeptical that I will hear a difference at all.

I agree. Not expecting many changes or upgrades.

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I agree. Not expecting many changes or upgrades.


Well after seeing the release event it seems there is a ton of changes, no talk about audio stuff for some reason. They are just interested in home interaction and making communication interfaces more streamlined.
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Well after seeing the release event it seems there is a ton of changes, no talk about audio stuff for some reason. They are just interested in home interaction and making communication interfaces more streamlined.

I'm sure there are just enough changes so that it doesn't run optimally on the phone you purchased 4 months ago, but will run optimally on the phone to be released 4 months from now... tongue.gif
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I have always been an Android guy but I am interested in the IPhone if they make the screen bigger

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I have always been an Android guy but I am interested in the IPhone if they make the screen bigger


Interestingly the other factors besides screen size seem to be touch response and resolution. Very rately do we give thought to small 4.0 inch screen resolution. I was using a first generation iPod touch yesterday and decided to go online using Wi-Fi, the operating system was an unupgradeable OS1.something. It was so very different than new iPhones or iPods in terms of both touch responded actions and screen clairity and resolution. Safari was in giant print like using your PC in safe mode.
Edited by Redcarmoose - 6/18/14 at 12:36am
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