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post #166 of 177

Initial impressions with the original pads/no inner foam were mixed. Great highs & details with decent mids (I’m powering them with a Cayin C5).

But even with the bass boost turned on, the bass was rather lacking. There was also some vibration with the bass boosted... It later turned out the drivers were slightly loose in the housing.

 

 

 

Taking the original pads off revealed the inside was quite dirty with bits of foam, and the drivers were somewhat loose in the housings. Simply pressing in on the outer edges of the drivers reseated them securely (More than likely this is why I noted vibrations with the bass boost on; as the vibration is now completely gone).

 

 

 

 

The 041299 pads kit came with a set of white paper disks... I suppose they are supposed to act as filters for higher frequencies. I suspect this because with the paper disks installed the highs became slightly less detailed. I tried the paper disk installed both under & above the foam; the effect was the same.

 

I prefer the sound of the hd560's without the paper disk. Note that my HD560's did not originally have the paper disk installed when I received them... I'm not sure if they came like this from the factory or if the previous owners removed them. Here is a picture of the white disks:

 

 

 

With the new pads & foam the sound has changed for the better. The open sound of the highs is fantastic. The bass is rolled off... but with minor EQ I got them to sound quite good. Even EQ'ed the bass still doesn't have a lot of impact, but it's a nice tight sounding bass... so all is well. The mids are very good. The soundstage is narrow, but the separation is very good.

 

Notice how much the original pads have shrunk:

 

 

 

So far I'm really liking these HD560's. They blow my cheap HD555's out of the water! They also rival my old HD600's. The lower mids & wider soundstage of the HD600's are better; but the highs/upper mids & separation of the HD560 are just on another level. They are really good!


Edited by Aliceinbassland - 11/9/15 at 6:00pm
post #167 of 177
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Originally Posted by Aliceinbassland View Post
 

Initial impressions with the original pads/no inner foam were mixed. Great highs & details with decent mids (I’m powering them with a Cayin C5).

But even with the bass boost turned on, the bass was rather lacking. There was also some vibration with the bass boosted... It later turned out the drivers were slightly loose in the housing.

 

 

 

Taking the original pads off revealed the inside was quite dirty with bits of foam, and the drivers were somewhat loose in the housings. Simply pressing in on the outer edges of the drivers reseated them securely (More than likely this is why I noted vibrations with the bass boost on; as the vibration is now completely gone).

 

 

 

 

The 041299 pads kit came with a set of white paper disks... I suppose they are supposed to act as filters for higher frequencies. I suspect this because with the paper disks installed the highs became slightly less detailed. I tried the paper disk installed both under & above the foam; the effect was the same.

 

I prefer the sound of the hd560's without the paper disk. Note that my HD560's did not originally have the paper disk installed when I received them... I'm not sure if they came like this from the factory or if the previous owners removed them. Here is a picture of the white disks:

 

 

 

With the new pads & foam the sound has changed for the better. The open sound of the highs is fantastic. The bass is rolled off... but with minor EQ I got them to sound quite good. Even EQ'ed the bass still doesn't have a lot of impact, but it's a nice tight sounding bass... so all is well. The mids are very good. The soundstage is narrow, but the separation is very good.

 

Notice how much the original pads have shrunk:

 

 

 

So far I'm really liking these HD560's. They blow my cheap HD555's out of the water! They also rival my old HD600's. The lower mids & wider soundstage of the HD600's are better; but the highs/upper mids & separation of the HD560 are just on another level. They are really good!

That's interesting about the paper disk. I had mine from the factory and when I replaced my earpads ~8 months ago I added them without thinking. I have always been amazed w ith the clarity of these headphones, but I'll have to see what they sound like with them removed. 

post #168 of 177
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Originally Posted by nicholascroth View Post
 

That's interesting about the paper disk. I had mine from the factory and when I replaced my earpads ~8 months ago I added them without thinking. I have always been amazed w ith the clarity of these headphones, but I'll have to see what they sound like with them removed. 

I just got a set of Ovation II's to try out...

 

Here is an interesting note: While on my 560 ovation I’s I feel the sound is better without the paper disks… In the ovation II’s they sound too bright without the disks.

 

I figured the ovation I & II were the same headphone just with a different cable, but so far the ovation II's seem to sound a little bit brighter... even with the paper disks. The Ovation II's can handle me bumping up the bass via EQ much better than the ovation I's as well.

 

I need to take the II's apart & compare them to the Ovation I's drivers. 

post #169 of 177

 

I found these Hd-560 I that I like to buy....

It seems that earcups are to "far" like is the arc is too "enlarged"... I think that correct pressure will not be appliead on head...You agree at me o or I'm wrong.

Earpads looks in good shape?

Thank u guys...

post #170 of 177

The headband looks like it wouldn't provide any clamping force on a smaller head so wouldn't be a secure fit and would give less bass weight. I wouldn't buy unless I could transfer those capsules onto a tighter headband.

post #171 of 177
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Originally Posted by o0CosmoMemory0o View Post
 

The headband looks like it wouldn't provide any clamping force on a smaller head so wouldn't be a secure fit and would give less bass weight. I wouldn't buy unless I could transfer those capsules onto a tighter headband.

Thank you, So no way to make that headband more tight, some tricks?

If no way to "repair", I ask:560 headband is specific or I could use even of other model of 520\30\40....???

post #172 of 177

you may be able to compress it a little by squeezing it together harshly. If not, the HD250 and HD540 models use a compatible headband where parts can be swapped to provide you a better headband. The connections to the driver capsules are the same.

post #173 of 177
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Originally Posted by o0CosmoMemory0o View Post
 

you may be able to compress it a little by squeezing it together harshly. If not, the HD250 and HD540 models use a compatible headband where parts can be swapped to provide you a better headband. The connections to the driver capsules are the same.

Thank you for suggestion. The headband is made of plastic only or have even metal inside?

post #174 of 177

Yep interesting reading his talk of removing the filter in the inner 560 II's I thought gee no way do they need more highs. I see now he has both versions and it's not good idea to do so. Make sense. The 560 II's bass is great when it kicks in It's lacking ever ever so slightly I think but the balance I wouldn't trade for anything. I've owned every decent Senn HP but the 800 and I still say to me 560 II's destroy the others quality/sound wise. I resold all my other pairs.

 

When I put a crackhead tube amp on them I'll never ever go back and I find it hard to believe(although Im sure there is) there is a better sounding pair of headphones. So so much detail and clarity to me it's like being there live when they're recorded whenever I listen to something. I even bought a pair for a friend and replaced pads and cable so she could enjoy pefection(well damn near anyway).

 

It's great to see people still discovering these babies after 25+ yrs. I've had mine since 93 or 94.

post #175 of 177

You need high quality digital source or vinyl to get real bass on the hd560

the best vintage sennheier are hd110 & hd224x ,sound is a lot smoother than other Sennheiser

 

My rating of Sennheriser:

HD224x=HD110 when they are properly driven, the sound is comparable to HE90, very smooth ,lush sound

HD430 (with new hd430 pads) the sound is as good as vintage stax lambda signature(the highs are harsh too,& lacking bass,like lambda signature too)

 

HD560I 

HD560II

HD580 1993-95

HD540GOLD/HD540 (vocal is not good, not comfortable in long term listening)

 

 

 

btw,The best headphones are those flagships that use alnico magnets in 1970s

(none of the sennheisers use alnico)

their sound is better than any neodymium dynamic/planar/electrostatic headphones


Edited by pkshan - 4/5/16 at 2:59pm
post #176 of 177
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Originally Posted by pkshan View Post
 

You need high quality digital source or vinyl to get real bass on the hd560

the best vintage sennheier are hd110 & hd224x ,sound is a lot smoother than other Sennheiser

 

My rating of Sennheriser:

HD224x=HD110 when they are properly driven, the sound is comparable to HE90, very smooth ,lush sound

HD430 (with new hd430 pads) the sound is as good as vintage stax lambda signature(the highs are harsh too,& lacking bass,like lambda signature too)

 

HD560I 

HD560II

HD580 1993-95

HD540GOLD/HD540 (vocal is not good, not comfortable in long term listening)

 

 

 

btw,The best headphones are those flagships that use alnico magnets in 1970s

(none of the sennheisers use alnico)

their sound is better than any neodymium dynamic/planar/electrostatic headphones

 

Telefunken :p

 

How do you mean hd540 is not comfortable in long term listening?

post #177 of 177

The only headphone that realistically beats an optimised HD250/HD540/HD560 in standard of reproduction is the HD800, in my experience, although AKG K1000 is better.

 

Although I have not used electrostatics. Even so, the enclosure characteristics are just as important as the driver technology. Electrostatics have engineering limitations too.


Edited by o0CosmoMemory0o - 4/6/16 at 12:53pm
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