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post #76 of 657
FWIW, I haven't found the tangling to be a problem. It tangles more, but given the nature of how thin it is, it also untangles really easily. I normally just have to lightly pull on one or two strands and it falls apart.

In terms of sound, I can't say I hear a sonic difference from the cable itself when compared to the others I've had (93SPEC, Magnus, Westone) but I have noticed a fit difference.

As I've mentioned, cables with larger plugs tend to push against my cheekbones and break the seal on my 8.A's. This cable is so low-profile that my fit is now perfect, it's like I'm wearing them without a cable. The end result is that I have a much better seal and much better isolation. I ride public transit to work every day and normally I can hear the train, some people around me, the voice of the conductor on the intercom... It's low and in the background but I can still just barely hear it. Now I can't, the isolation is that good.

I share others' concern about the build quality, simply because it feels so delicate due to how thin it is, but looking at it doesn't make me think it'd break anywhere. The only concern I have is that I'd snag the cable and it would snap, not that any of the plugs or other components would fail. I wonder what the pull strength of it is?
post #77 of 657

Pull strength according to their documentation is a 'tensile strength more than 60N'

 

(60N is the same as 6.1 KgF)

 

Hope that helps.

post #78 of 657
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Originally Posted by Eternal Phoenix View Post

Pull strength according to their documentation is a 'tensile strength more than 60N'

(60N is the same as 6.1 KgF)

Hope that helps.

I figured I could find information to compare that to but... Nope! Anyone know how this compares to something like the stock Westone or a Noble Magnus?
post #79 of 657
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Originally Posted by DougofTheAbaci View Post

I figured I could find information to compare that to but... Nope! Anyone know how this compares to something like the stock Westone or a Noble Magnus?

 

Less, since the other 2 cables you mention are braided.

post #80 of 657

Since this cable doesn't have memory wire and is soo thin, does it stay in the crevice over the ear? 

post #81 of 657
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Since this cable doesn't have memory wire and is soo thin, does it stay in the crevice over the ear? 


Yes, all the time. And it's so light that you don't feel it!

post #82 of 657
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Originally Posted by ariesq View Post

Since this cable doesn't have memory wire and is soo thin, does it stay in the crevice over the ear? 

They do and are extremely comfortable. People saying they don't notice them isn't an exaggeration, they really do seem to disappear.
post #83 of 657

I'm using the cable right now while in a waiting room. The only place I notice the cable when wearing it is underneath the chin when I move my head. Don't notice anything going over and behind my ears at all. It's slightly freaky just how comfortable this cable is.

post #84 of 657

Shame that they have no plan on making a FitEar version. :<

post #85 of 657

Mine arrives in the mail today. Cant wait to try it out! Will be replacing my stock cable for my Shure SE846

 

Will post my impressions after I get it and try it for a bit.

post #86 of 657
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ra97oR View Post  Shame that they have no plan on making a FitEar version. :<

 

You could get it re-terminated yourself? The cable builder will probably need a soldering microscope, though.

 

FitEar pins are, after all, used only by one single niche brand of earphones. The MMCX and 2-pin connectors are far more cross-compatible. It's financially unwise of Estron to develop an injection mold for FitEar pins. The cost would not be justifiable.

post #87 of 657
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

FitEar pins are, after all, used only by one single niche brand of earphones. The MMCX and 2-pin connectors are far more cross-compatible. It's financially unwise of Estron to develop an injection mold for FitEar pins. The cost would not be justifiable.

Agreed. Better to say it's a shame FitEar saw the need to use non-standard connectors.
post #88 of 657
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DougofTheAbaci View Post  Agreed. Better to say it's a shame FitEar saw the need to use non-standard connectors.

 

In FitEar's defense, the connectors are good. They're more robust than either the 2-pin or the MMCX.

 

They're also used by the Japanese military for intercom equipment, as well as in medical use. Flip the polarity of the pins and you can use them with the Sennheiser HD-25/600/650.

post #89 of 657
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

In FitEar's defense, the connectors are good. They're more robust than either the 2-pin or the MMCX.

They're also used by the Japanese military for intercom equipment, as well as in medical use. Flip the polarity of the pins and you can use them with the Sennheiser HD-25/600/650.

And the lighting connector on my iPhone is worlds better than the micro-USB connector on the Android devices I work with every day. That doesn't mean I don't wish everyone used the same connector. (Please let micro-USB 3.1 not suck.)

But anyway, getting off topic here. How are others feeling about the build quality after using the cable? I think I'm getting used to it, or at least I'm less afraid it will snap just simply by wearing. I kind of wish they'd braided in some high tensile strength fishing line or something. Might have made me feel a bit better, even if it wouldn't really have made a difference.
post #90 of 657
I'm using the 2 pin Ba-X variant and I REALLY like it.

I got mine from Cosmic to fit my Cosmic CIEM'S.

I have two pairs of CIEM'S from Cosmic and the socket of one of my 'better' pair is too loose due to (I think) the original cable having a slightly oversize pin stretching out the socket on the left monitor.
The right fits fine, nice and snug, but the left almost falls out by itself.
Phil at Cosmic has offered a couple of different solutions and in the meantime I've been trying the cable in my other Cosmic CIEM'S (single driver 'Pure' model) as they fit these perfectly.

I haven't had any mishaps which would test the strength of the cable, and I'm still getting over the urge to 'baby' the super skinny cable, but I'm getting used to it.

Comfort is unequalled in my experience.
I agree with others who have said it's almost like wearing the monitors without the cables, with the advantage of actually being able to hear music!

I have a pair of Sony MH1-C's which have a much bigger flat cable (modded to overcome the annoying 'j' design) which is also pretty comfortable worn over the ear, so I don't necessarily ascribe the comfort to the 'dental floss' thickness of the linum cable.
My personal view is that the softness or flexibility of a cable is the defining factor deciding the comfort of an over ear cable.
However, I find the flexibility of the BA-X VERY comfortable.

As far as sound goes (mostly cable sceptic here btw) I'm probably imagining this but I find that the bass seems very slightly boosted, and mids a little more recessed than before (tiny amount).
This is probably just due to a comment I read somewhere that the BA-X slightly promotes the 'V'sound sig'.
I must admit that this is the opposite of what I'd want with my best CIEM'S as they're reshelled TF10's which are already a tiny bit too 'V' shaped IMO.
The effect is so minor though that I'm entirely willing to put it down to placebo, or buyers remorse (I wouldn't normally spend this much on a cable, 'cause I'm tight), but any remorse re' this purchase is overcome by the definite positive aspects of this design.

One clearly obvious sonic advantage this cable had over every other cable I've used is that (misnomer alert!) microphonics are greatly reduced, almost to the point of elimination.

Apparently Cosmic are ditching the 2 pin plug entirely, in favour of the new Linum plug/socket.
I think this is a great move as if the published specifications of the new combo' are accurate they clearly outperform the 2 pin by a huge margin in this application.

Although it might disable the Unique Selling Point of the linum cable, for some people a thicker more robust version might be more attractive.
The published pull strength is very impressive for a cable this thickness though, so a thicker version is probably physically redundant, but it might increase 'perceived value' and confidence in the longevity of the product.

To summarise; Durability pending more use, I'd definitely recommend this cable.
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