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Dark and airy sounding headphonnes

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

after trying loads of headphones - now i know what sq i prefer.

i love dark , spacious and very airy sound.

can you suggest me some headphones having that sound?

dark really doesn't mean i want extremely bass heavy sound. im not a bass head. and bass quality>quantity for me


Edited by xoriac - 5/14/14 at 12:21am
post #2 of 19
I guess Audeze would be something to look into. Maybe the HD600/650.
post #3 of 19
Budget? Though if you don't have one, then Audeze LCD-3 it is.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 

^ I have a budget of 400$. LCD 3 is out of my budget.

@ Androb - I already own the HD 598. I don't want to upgrade to the HD 600 because some people prefer the 598 over the 600.also they are not airier compared to the 598. So I really don't think - it's an upgrade.

about the 650 - they are dark yes. but they are not even close to being airy.


Edited by xoriac - 5/14/14 at 4:19am
post #5 of 19
Hmm, the HE-400 or HE-500? Well, they are both less laid back than the HD598, which seems to be what you are looking for. To tell the truth, for dark and airy headphones, I could only think of the Senn HD-series or HE-400. Others are quite above $400.
Edited by Slashfury99 - 5/14/14 at 4:24am
post #6 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Slashfury99 View Post

Hmm, the HE-400 or HE-500? Well, they are both less laid back than the HD598, which seems to be what you are looking for. To tell the truth, for dark and airy headphones, I could only think of the Senn HD-series or HE-400. Others are quite above $400.

umm.

Is HE 500 in my budget?if not, then are the he 400 airier than the HD 598?

I love HD 598's sq. warm and airy.

post #7 of 19
For that budget I can't think of any better tgan hd650. Pair it with a tube amp if possible and they will be airy aswell. Or do you care about going used? That would give you alot more options atleast
post #8 of 19
Sony ma900.? :-)
http://www.head-fi.org/products/sony-mdr-ma900-over-the-head-style-headphones

If u prefer closed cans....dt150......maddog :-)
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

Sony ma900.? :-)
http://www.head-fi.org/products/sony-mdr-ma900-over-the-head-style-headphones

If u prefer closed cans....dt150......maddog :-)

The problem here is that he wants something airier than HD650, going closed night not be the best option.
post #10 of 19

Hello,

 

Or you can look into Philips X1 which IMO suit your needs well.

 

Hope it helps

Billson

post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by Androb View Post

For that budget I can't think of any better tgan hd650. Pair it with a tube amp if possible and they will be airy aswell. Or do you care about going used? That would give you alot more options atleast

I think this is the best suggestion yet. +1
post #12 of 19

Dark and airy are usually mutually exclusive attributes.

If you are looking for a dark headphone with great spatial representation, I don't think there's anything better out there than HD650 (for the money). But you need a very good amp to tap into their potential.

They'll do OK even with a CMOY but soundstage, imaging and especially dynamics will be limited.

 

HD600 are a bit brighter (= more neutral) than HD650 and a lot closer to the sound you've been describing than HD598, which are essentially a bright and somewhat lean headphone.

But if you still prefer a bright sounding headphone like HD598 to the HD600, then I would revise the "dark and airy" situation, cause that's certainly not what you're after.

 

There are a couple more headphones somewhat similar to the HD650 signature but with a bit more top end (or "air") - Fidelio X1 and Soundmagic HP200.


Edited by Bobby S - 5/14/14 at 7:18am
post #13 of 19
ZMF v2 is dark with an extended treble--not sure if that's what you're looking for.
Edited by Claritas - 5/15/14 at 1:08pm
post #14 of 19

So it seems you are looking for an ambient/layered soundstage image.  You are wanting an overall warm balanced sound.  With good bass detail resolution, yet not excessively bass bloated.  I think you should throw away the word "dark".  Its just too vague, and open ended of a term to base a detailed discussion around... IMHO of course.

 

The HD650 meets most of those criteria, although I find its bass flavor to be more "resonant" than dry / articulate.  I think the 650 definitely adds a sense of harmonic-resonance below ~80 Hz, it makes up the bottom half of the "veil" everyone talks about.  The top half being its smoothly recessed upper midrange.  I have heard others call the HD650 bass sloppy and unrefined... I for one wouldn't totally disagree with that.

 

I think the DT880 could be an option for you.  Its definitely what I would consider an "airy" sounding headphone.  It has some treble boost above the upper mids that adds to its overall presentation.  Bass response is its strong suit.  Articulate, detailed, deep-extending... Awesome.  Its also no slouch with the imaging and soundstage too.

 

The Q701 is a must consider for you too I think.  Of the 3 it has the best image and soundstage layering.  Bass is plentiful, articulate, deep and detail-rich.

 


Edited by kramer5150 - 5/14/14 at 9:03am
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kramer5150 View Post
 

So it seems you are looking for an ambient/layered soundstage image.  You are wanting an overall warm balanced sound.  With good bass detail resolution, yet not excessively bass bloated.  I think you should throw away the word "dark".  Its just too vague, and open ended of a term to base a detailed discussion around... IMHO of course.

 

The HD650 meets most of those criteria, although I find its bass flavor to be more "resonant" than dry / articulate.  I think the 650 definitely adds a sense of harmonic-resonance below ~80 Hz, it makes up the bottom half of the "veil" everyone talks about.  The top half being its smoothly recessed upper midrange.  I have heard others call the HD650 bass sloppy and unrefined... I for one wouldn't totally disagree with that.

 

I think the DT880 could be an option for you.  Its definitely what I would consider an "airy" sounding headphone.  It has some treble boost above the upper mids that adds to its overall presentation.  Bass response is its strong suit.  Articulate, detailed, deep-extending... Awesome.  Its also no slouch with the imaging and soundstage too.

 

The Q701 is a must consider for you too I think.  Of the 3 it has the best image and soundstage layering.  Bass is plentiful, articulate, deep and detail-rich.

 


thank you very much. you understood me well. i want that ambient soundstage with warm sound. 

looking at the graphs.

i think the 880 have harsh treble. huge peak around 9-10khz. wouldn't they be sibilant due to this?

and i have decided to rule out the HD 650 as they require a powerful amp to drive them which i can't afford after buying them.

i'm seriously considering the q701 here. as it has the best spacious soundstage among all 3 + has bass.

also when you say bass, would they have low bass rumble or just a tight bass like the HD 598?

 

@others - thank you very much. i might consider the x1 as well.

 

so for now it's either the x1 or the q701. im leaning more towards the q701

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