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What Would You Recommend for me?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 

Hello all,

 

I have been using tacky "gaming" headphones for the past 2 years and am over the quality of them, i.e. the quality of sound and workmanship on the phones themselves, (The logitech G35 and G930). I thought it's now time to invest a bit more money in something that will hopefully last longer than 6-12 months and sound alot better.

 

What will I use the headphones for?

 

I will primarily be using the headphones for games and music, and sometimes movies.

 

What will be the source of the Audio?

 

Alright this is where it gets complicated, I currently only have a laptop with a 3.5mm Jack that's shared between audio and microphone so will need a splitter. The laptop is a Lenovo Edge E520. will it be 100% essential to get an amp or will I still appreciate the headphones even with just the 3.5mm jack on the laptop.

 

What type of Music do I listen to?

 

I mainly listen to pop/punk rock etc and some instrumental (not much tho).

 

What websites would I purchase from being it's in Australia (BUDGET OF $220-230 AUD)

 

http://www.shopbot.com.au/ - This site will link the cheapest headphones of the ones you searched for in Australian stores so I would just go off that.

Or a site like

http://www.pccasegear.com/

 

What headphones am I looking at?

 

I was initially looking at getting the Audio Technicas AD 700X's or even the ATH 700X's, or the Sennheiser HD598's.

 

Do you want bass?

 

I would like to have a little bass just to appreciate an explosion in a game if it utilises it. I don't need bass that will rattle my ears, just enough to appreciate it.

 

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I thank you for your time reading this, I hope some people could recommend me some headphones that I will love for gaming and music, I will be purchasing a seperate mic if anyone can recommend one of them. Preferably less then $30. (Bonus if it attaches to headset somehow).


Edited by Mattaust - 5/13/14 at 6:21pm
post #2 of 15
I don't know anything about laptop headphone jacks that have a shared mic and headphone output. Sorry.

Forget the AD700X if you want any extra bass. Definitely go for the Senns instead over the A700X. Open headphones are better for gaming--and for music, IMHO--because you get bigger soundstage than with closed headphones.

Look into the Zallman mic. Doesn't attach to the headphones, but effectively fits your budget.
post #3 of 15
I was gonna say 'get the AD700 definitely' until I reread the post and saw that you want more bass. Well scratch that, go for the HD598.
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 

Ok thank you for the replies, I'll be grateful if more people can give insight into the 2.

 

So are the HD598's closed or opened, this is making it confusing so let me make this clear.

 

audio technica: ath-ad700x - Opened - Has little to no bass, great soundstage

audio technica: ath-a700x  - Closed - Has a little more bass than the AD's, but soundstage is good but not as "great".

Sennheiser HD598             - Opened? - Has more bass than both but with a great/good soundstage. Better suited as I have no amp too?

 

So how does the HD598 have better bass than the closed pair if it's open? Am I not making sense or what lol.

 

I just am being this cautious as I want to make the right decision, so bare with me.

 

Cheers, Matt.


Edited by Mattaust - 5/14/14 at 4:02am
post #5 of 15
The HD598 are open, and warm sounding.
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 

Alrighty, could anyone shed some light on what might be the bigger issue being the audio source from my laptop. Would a DAC be 100% essential?

post #7 of 15
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Alrighty, could anyone shed some light on what might be the bigger issue being the audio source from my laptop. Would a DAC be 100% essential?

Well, there are two most noticeable upgrades to audio quality: 1) headphones, 2) amplifier, the others I consider come second, for example there is only a little difference to compressed and uncompressed music (though I take it your music are well-recorded and not pirated). And a DAC is not 100% necessary, take it as an extra upgrade if you can spend for it.

If you are going for the HD598, then I would recommend you to go pair it with an amp, that would improve the audio quality further.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

How much would amps go for? I was stretching the budget getting the HD598's themselves, maybe I should still get them and maybe invest in an amp later like a years time.

post #9 of 15

Hello,

 

Since you will be using mainly with your laptop, I assume you are not planning to use it outdoors so no need of isolations? Closed headphones isolate sound and usually offer better bass but narrow soundstage where as open headphone usually has a better soundstage, but offer less bass and does not isolate sound from the outside and noise from the headphone may leak to the outside.

 

For gaming and for the genre of music that you listen to, I would highly recommend you to go for the HD598 with no doubt. They have the right amount of bass you need for gaming, the excellent imaging to pinpoint almost everything in the game and I like it with the genres of music you listen to. If it wasn't the fact that I already have my AKG, I would have purchased a pair of HD598 in all honesty xD 

 

As for amp and DAC. I am not sure about your laptop, but majority of built in DAC/amp is often weak. A cheap yet good DAC/amp that I would recommend is FiiO E10. I suggest you to try the HD598 straight out of laptop before deciding whether or not to purchase an external DAC/amp though. If you are happy with the laptop SQ, good for you otherwise, you can look into the E10 or E07K from FiiO. Both cost less than $100 each.

 

Hope it helps

Billson :)

post #10 of 15
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How much would amps go for? I was stretching the budget getting the HD598's themselves, maybe I should still get them and maybe invest in an amp later like a years time.

Amps could go for as cheap as about $100 all the way up to $6000+. And investing in an amp is always a wise move, sometimes better than getting new headgear. wink.gif
post #11 of 15
Thread Starter 

Alright guys then it's settled, I will buy the HD598 and try them out first and if need to be I'll buy an amp to improve them. Pretty excited to try these once I buy them! They seem like a good investment compared to the "gaming headsets", 

 

P.S. Thank you all so much for your replies, I appreciate them greatly, I was sitting on the fence about this whole situation but you all helped immensely, so thank you.


Edited by Mattaust - 5/14/14 at 6:47am
post #12 of 15
No problem. Do post your impressions or review about them. biggrin.gif
post #13 of 15
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Alrighty, could anyone shed some light on what might be the bigger issue being the audio source from my laptop. Would a DAC be 100% essential?

Some headphones are difficult to drive because of (a) their impedance or (b) their sensitivity. They need a headphone amp. The HD598 are not difficult to drive with most mobile devices. So no need to rush and get an amp.

Beyond that, all headphones will benefit from a better DAC and headphone amp than is stock in most computers. So you could get a DAC and headphone amp and it would be worthwhile, depending on your budget.
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Alright guys then it's settled, I will buy the HD598 and try them out first and if need to be I'll buy an amp to improve them.

Good strategy. Then when you want to upgrade the sound some, get a good DAC and amp smily_headphones1.gif
post #14 of 15
Yes do report back on what you think about them smily_headphones1.gif
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 

Just bought them and will receive them this Monday in Australian time. Will happily give feedback.


Edited by Mattaust - 5/15/14 at 2:44am
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