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post #811 of 6527
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http://www.astellnkern.com/eng/htm/story/astellnkern.asp

 

Thanks but I was referring to the review from the Audio360.org guys on headfi here.

post #812 of 6527
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Originally Posted by sonickarma View Post
 

BTW: My AK120 II is on the headfi sales classified for anyone interested - as felt the signature was way too similar to my RWAK240.

Wow.  So quick.  You have your 120ii for a week?

post #813 of 6527
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Originally Posted by flymetothemoon View Post
 

Wow.  So quick.  You have your 120ii for a week?


Yep not much point have 2 very similar DAP signatures - IMO

post #814 of 6527
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Originally Posted by sonickarma View Post
 


For me the RWAK240 has a little more depth and seem ever so tighter showing some of  the detail - but as far as i am concerned that is the red wine mod.

 

 


The out the box AK240 - i don't know about the differences as according to the specs below they are very similar. - Others have different views/impressions as shown earlier in the threads

I used Ref 1 for my A/B.

 

According to the specs, only difference is the 128GB of additonal capacity on the 240, It's up to the individual to determine if the difference you hear is placebo or the additional $800 is worth it for the additional  128GB of capacity.

post #815 of 6527

The AK240 also has the XMOS processor for DSD and USB DAC functions as well as the scratch resistance case.

post #816 of 6527
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

The AK240 also has the XMOS processor for DSD and USB DAC functions as well as the scratch resistance case.

The ii has USB DAC functionality.  What is the benefit of the XMOS processor?  


Edited by SilverEars - 7/6/14 at 5:07pm
post #817 of 6527

DSD and USB DAC.  The other models cap out at 24/96 as USB DACs and can fall out of sync.  For music not the end of the world, for movies less fun.  Part of reason I want the Calyx M to release in NA.

post #818 of 6527
But doesnt firmware have some effects on the sound and thats why it changes for each release? As long as the two models dont use the same firmware, there will be differences
post #819 of 6527
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

DSD and USB DAC.  The other models cap out at 24/96 as USB DACs and can fall out of sync.  For music not the end of the world, for movies less fun.  Part of reason I want the Calyx M to release in NA.

Looking at it, they have the same sampling rate and both have USB DAC functionality.

post #820 of 6527
From the last I've heard MQS streaming still doesn't work on the AK120II.
post #821 of 6527
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

The ii has USB DAC functionality.  What is the benefit of the XMOS processor?  

AK240's XMOS chip allows for native DSD processing, I think.

post #822 of 6527

I've had my AK120II for a few weeks now. In some ways I had been a bit underwhelmed by how it couples with SE846.

 

I've found the sound signature of the AKs a bit "polite", if that's the right word. I prefer my music to be revealing in terms of textures and detailed such that you can pick out all the various instruments in a complex piece. 

 

Comparing against AmpliFlac app on iphone5, I would say that the iphone5 holds it's own, not necessarily in power to drive the SE846, but in terms of clarity. The AK120II tended to add a smooth veil on the music which lost some of the detail. Also, the resonance you hear from string instruments tended to be dampened prematurely.

 

Finally changed the neutral filters to the bass filters in the SE846 and found a remarkable difference. The emphasized bass works really well to add some body to the sound and also the resonance that was missing earlier. The mids still shine well on the SE846s despite the darker sound.

 

Will test some more....

post #823 of 6527
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Originally Posted by headwilier View Post
 

AK240's XMOS chip allows for native DSD processing, I think.

So does that mean that DSD playback is not possible on the ii?  The specs DSD are the same for both players.


Edited by SilverEars - 7/6/14 at 6:02pm
post #824 of 6527

I got my AK120ii and just finished loading up some music, my frist test was my alpha dogs and it drives them well, they sound fantastic, however to achieve a listening level i like i have to put the volume up all the way. Does this player have a gain setting? 

post #825 of 6527
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

So does that mean that DSD playback is not possible on the ii?  The specs DSD are the same for both players.

Only AK240 can do native DSD, the others convert DSD to PCM first before D/A conversion.

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