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post #286 of 6523

So... are these AK and iRiver Japanese?? I always thought they are Korean...

post #287 of 6523

iRiver and AK are from Korea. 

post #288 of 6523
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On paper their design doesn't work so here's hoping the paper is just ad press :P


That remains to be seen unless you have evidence to the contrary.

post #289 of 6523

Hey, at least the AK240 isn't upside down - don't the new models look upside down to anybody? Have you ever seen a dap that has the larger gap above as opposed to below the screen? Maybe these are the drunk assembly line addition...

post #290 of 6523
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Originally Posted by frekedech View Post
 

So... are these AK and iRiver Japanese?? I always thought they are Korean...

 

They're Korean, but they sell a lot of their DAPs in Japan.

post #291 of 6523
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They're Korean, but they sell a lot of their DAPs in Japan.

 

 Alright... Sometimes I had a thinking that AK is Japanese engineering company who contracted iRiver to manufactures the DAP for them (like Apple-Foxconn relation) :biggrin:

post #292 of 6523
I think this is just a scenario of some Head-Fiers not understanding the business model of the company. You've seen A&K release new units fairly frequently, from the rather bad initial AK100, to the AK120, to the AK240 shortly thereafter. It seems like all 3 units have sold rather well on release, so what would you expect A&K to do in the foreseeable future? Pat themselves on the back for a job well done and sit on their heels?

The profitable, and indeed the path that makes the most sense for the company, is to continue releasing new products on a regular basis. Believe it or not, maybe A&K's target audience is not you, the individual Head-Fier, if your salary is not in a range to afford such things and your largest complaint about the product is the price. There are many, many affluent people out there, Head-Fiers included, well-off enough to drop $2,000+ without a second thought. So long as they are willing to pay for what they perceive to be a premium product, they are the people supporting A&K's bottom line and should be the focus of A&K's marketing and sales efforts. If I was the marketing director of A&K and found that the market was hungry for and would support the launch of a revamped AK100 and AK120, it'd be an incredibly easy decision to make to bring such products to launch.
post #293 of 6523
I'm trying to understand the anger as well. I've been toying with the idea of getting an AK240, I hear of complaints of it being devalued, I've yet to see one remotely close to being "cheaper" than last month. I also don't understand as the units are different. The ak240 is still the top of their line, even if the ak120ii is a damn good unit, it is missing some things the ak240 has. if they released an ak240ii, I could easily understand, but they haven't... yet. Regardless, if someone wants to sell their "devalued" ak240 for a lower price please let me know.
post #294 of 6523
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That remains to be seen unless you have evidence to the contrary.

 

Hard to get four channel balanced signal from two single ended opamps... just saying ;)  The top model could be balanced though.

post #295 of 6523

Crazy how expensive it is. Yes im going to blame the price coz im poor!

 

http://shop.iriver.co.kr/product/ProductView.aspx?prdtCode=434814

 

AK120 II - Nearly the price of the AK240 = 1,980,000.00WON

post #296 of 6523
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Out of show street price is $2200 so I would expect it to be in the $1900-$2000 range used in mint condition.

 

Really? I haven't seen the AK240 priced lower than $2,499.00 USD. Indeed, all the internet "e-tailers" seem to be charging the same price--likely per iRiver's stipulations.

post #297 of 6523
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Really? I haven't seen the AK240 priced lower than $2,499.00 USD. Indeed, all the internet "e-tailers" seem to be charging the same price--likely per iRiver's stipulations.

 

 

Stipulations or no stipulations, the AK dealers around the world are all loving their jaunt on the gravy train - do you realise how much mark-up / margin there is for an AK dealer on each DAP?

post #298 of 6523
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

Stipulations or no stipulations, the AK dealers around the world are all loving their jaunt on the gravy train - do you realise how much mark-up / margin there is for an AK dealer on each DAP?

 

For the AK240, I expect it's many hundreds of dollars, if not more. Do you have exact figures?

post #299 of 6523
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Originally Posted by bcarr112281 View Post
 

 

 if not more.

post #300 of 6523
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Originally Posted by bcarr112281 View Post
 

For the AK240, I expect it's many hundreds of dollars, if not more. Do you have exact figures?

 

Let's put it this way.  PS Audio sells the PWD2 for $4000.  Stores sell it to customers for $2300... and they're making a profit.  Audio mark is very high.  There are however exceptions.  Stax dealer in the US for instance have a pretty low margin.

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