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post #121 of 3498

Typical Korean company (Samsung's next-of-kin), releasing new product every 16 seconds. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm an Asian too :biggrin:

post #122 of 3498
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Originally Posted by DevilofLife View Post
 

I want to know does the AK120 II has native DSD support?

http://www.astellnkern.com/eng/htm/ak120/ak120_2_feature01.asp shows (DSD to PCM)

but here http://www.astellnkern.com/eng/htm/ak120/ak120_2_spec.asp shows its Native DSD

 

I believe that is just the sample rate. In the decoding spec you don't see DSD while on the AK240 spec page in the decoding spec you see DSD.

post #123 of 3498
About to get a new dap, this will surely made the whole audition session veerrryyyyy looongggggg
post #124 of 3498
AK120II looks very interesting. If this keeps up I'm going to ban myself from Head-Fi.
post #125 of 3498
Lolz me too 😂... If only I know if it sound as good as the 240 for cheaper 😌
post #126 of 3498

Yes for all but DSD.

post #127 of 3498
That's what makes it so interesting. Plus I don't really like the AK240 aesthetically... this looks a lil better. As far as DSD, for me that doesn't matter at all, right now anyway.
Edited by warrior1975 - 5/17/14 at 1:48pm
post #128 of 3498
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Originally Posted by warrior1975 View Post

That's what makes it so interesting. Plus I don't really like the AK240 aesthetically... this looks a lil better. As far as DSD, for me that doesn't matter at all, right now anyway.

The AK120-V2 pricing doesn't seem to be much less than the current AK240 street price and is more than the current AK120.

From the hardware specs I just don't understand why didn't implement native DSD - from what we've been shown its very very similar to the AK240 hardware wise. Seems more convoluted to go DSD->PCM given that.

 

I suspect it's a hedge for now and they can maintain the pricing structure with the AK240 intact. When competition comes out with more better and cheaper hardware with native DSD like CalyxM or the Light Harmonic Geek next year - they can discontinue the AK240 and provide a firmware upgrade to instantly upgrade the new AK's to native DSD, drop price and keep competitive. 

 

Just my $0.02

post #129 of 3498
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Originally Posted by harmonix View Post

The AK120-V2 pricing doesn't seem to be much less than the current AK240 street price and is more than the current AK120.
From the hardware specs I just don't understand why didn't implement native DSD - from what we've been shown its very very similar to the AK240 hardware wise. Seems more convoluted to go DSD->PCM given that.

I suspect it's a hedge for now and they can maintain the pricing structure with the AK240 intact. When competition comes out with more better and cheaper hardware with native DSD like CalyxM or the Light Harmonic Geek next year - they can discontinue the AK240 and provide a firmware upgrade to instantly upgrade the new AK's to native DSD, drop price and keep competitive. 

Just my $0.02

price difference is around $700, that's quite a lot for me. Unfortunately over my budget, im relegated to the 100 II now frown.gif
post #130 of 3498
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Originally Posted by harmonix View Post
 

The AK120-V2 pricing doesn't seem to be much less than the current AK240 street price and is more than the current AK120.

From the hardware specs I just don't understand why didn't implement native DSD - from what we've been shown its very very similar to the AK240 hardware wise. Seems more convoluted to go DSD->PCM given that.

 

I suspect it's a hedge for now and they can maintain the pricing structure with the AK240 intact. When competition comes out with more better and cheaper hardware with native DSD like CalyxM or the Light Harmonic Geek next year - they can discontinue the AK240 and provide a firmware upgrade to instantly upgrade the new AK's to native DSD, drop price and keep competitive. 

 

Just my $0.02

 

I think the lack of XMOS chip on the AK120II and AK100II is the true reason why it can't do native DSD. I doubt a firmware update could allow for native DSD unless the XMOS chip is secretly there but just disabled.

post #131 of 3498
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post

price difference is around $700, that's quite a lot for me. Unfortunately over my budget, im relegated to the 100 II now frown.gif

I'm seeing around $125. AK240 street price is coming down.
post #132 of 3498
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Originally Posted by harmonix View Post

I'm seeing around $125. AK240 street price is coming down.

AK240 - $2,500
AK120II - $1799
AK100II - $999
post #133 of 3498
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Edited by seeteeyou - 11/4/14 at 8:29pm
post #134 of 3498
I could not care less about DSD. I do not even care that much about high res...such a small share of music is in these formats. My issue is that the AK120II has less memory, so prefer the AK240.
post #135 of 3498
If you're going to spend 999? Why not get the calyx m instead? Full sd +microsd + 64gb on board storage.

edit: why does the headphone out on the ak120II have a 2Ω impedance? why not just go for the <1?? 2Ω does had a impact on the sound of high sensitivity IEM's like the UM Miracle right?
Edited by audiophile_007 - 5/18/14 at 2:22am
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