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Full sized headphones for rock - Around 250 Dollars budget.

post #1 of 13
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Hey!,

 

I'm looking for a fairly cheap pair of cans. I've been looking at a couple of different headphones - Beyerdynamic (770,880,990) Audio Technica Ath-m50X, Nad viso HP50, Sennheiser (559,600,650)

I listen to a lot of different genres so I would want some headphones that's good for everything 'u know? If that even excists! I'm still not sure if I want closed back or open back

 

I prefer Rock and Dubstep. And I LOVE a punchy bass


Edited by 12wenuz34 - 5/3/14 at 11:55am
post #2 of 13
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I've just found the AKG k550 and they look pretty promising? How do they perform?

post #3 of 13
K550 perform very well. Bass is well-extended, although not emphasized. You might not find them punchy. You might also look into the AKG K545: http://www.head-fi.org/t/688329/akg-k545-review-k550-s-little-brother-isn-t-so-little

Open headphones have a bigger soundstage than closed headphones. That's why almost all of the top, expensive headphones are open because the bigger soundstage makes for a better immersion experience in the music and better instrument separation.

But open headphones are not good for public use or where you need isolation. Definitely at home only headphones.

For some open headphones with good bass emphasis, Phillips X1: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/big-bottom-and-lively-top-philips-fidelio-x1

A little over your budget, the HE-400. These can be a little difficult to drive (not very efficient headphones). If you like a lot of volume, then you probably would need a headphone amp. See this review: http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HE400 Amazing for dubstep and other electronic music smily_headphones1.gif
post #4 of 13

I recently owned the DT 880 Premium 250 ohm, but I traded it for the HD600.  I primarily listen to rock, and I really like both of them for all sub-genres of (well-recorded) rock.  You can't go wrong with either one.  With both, though, you will definitely need a decent amp to get the punchy bass that you want.  I slightly prefer the HD600, but they are both great choices.

post #5 of 13
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Thanks for great replies, just a quick update: So I decided to use more then 250 dollars, (400 instead) and I should probably get closed back (since I'm living with a roomate). So I could get the DT-770 250 ohm with the FioO E17, but I'm not much of a basshead. I prefer rock like: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix - Arctic Monkeys, The black Keys

I've tried a bunch of ATH-M50'ies and I was wondering how the DT-770 250 ohm (Amped by FiiO E17) sound in comparison? Would I get an overall better sound with the DT-880/990? 

 

Oh yea, should I consider a different amp? 

Does the DT-880 leak a lot of sound? 

Should I scratch the amp and get a better quality headphones? (Like the HD 650, costs 'bout 400 bucks in Denmark)

I would LOVE the hifiman HE-400 but they're really exspensive here.

 

Update: Apprently the DT-880 is just a tad more exspensive and I would only be able to afford the DT-880 and an E6 amp :)


Edited by 12wenuz34 - 5/4/14 at 1:21pm
post #6 of 13
Did you like the bass levels of the M50s? Were they the original M50 or the M50X? That would tell you if the DT770s is a good choice for you in terms of its bass emphasis.

Yes. The DT880s leaks some sound both ways. Not good for portable use. If you want something more neutral like the DT880s, you should look at the K550s or the Soundmagic HP100s.

The HD650 would probably need an amp or soundcard. Most computers and portable devices cannot drive 300 ohm headphones well on their own.

The E17 is a nice amp/dac. Much better than the E6. I think if you got the E6, it would end up being one your next upgrades. The E17 is more of a keeper that will work well for lots of headphones smily_headphones1.gif
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by 12wenuz34 View Post
 

Thanks for great replies, just a quick update: So I decided to use more then 250 dollars, (400 instead) and I should probably get closed back (since I'm living with a roomate). So I could get the DT-770 250 ohm with the FioO E17, but I'm not much of a basshead. I prefer rock like: Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix - Arctic Monkeys, The black Keys

I've tried a bunch of ATH-M50'ies and I was wondering how the DT-770 250 ohm (Amped by FiiO E17) sound in comparison? Would I get an overall better sound with the DT-880/990? 

Oh yea, should I consider a different amp? 

Does the DT-880 leak a lot of sound? 

Should I scratch the amp and get a better quality headphones? (Like the HD 650, costs 'bout 400 bucks in Denmark)

I would LOVE the hifiman HE-400 but they're really exspensive here.

Update: Apprently the DT-880 is just a tad more exspensive and I would only be able to afford the DT-880 and an E6 amp :)

 

Audio Technica ATH-A900X closed headphones, I prefer them over my DT770s.

They are easier to drive then the DT770/DT880/DT990 headphones.

post #8 of 13
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It's the original ATH-M50, I love the ATH-M50 but it's too exspensive to get replacement pads for (80 bucks in Denmark >.>) The bass on the ATH-m50 is perfect when I'm listening to Dubstep, but it's a bit too much for rock. I feel like the sound on the ATH-m50 is like inside your head instead of around you.

 

I've read/watched some reviews on the DT-880 and I'm really loving what I hear! Problem is it's pretty exspensive. So I won't be able to get a very good amp with that one.

The HD650 won't be in stock for a couple of months (There's only one headphone store in Denmark >.>) So yea question is: How much sound does the DT-880 leak? (I'll be living around a lot of people for a year or so, so I don't want to too loud). Is it any good with a decent portable amp? (Which AMP would be acceptable, Only FiiO) 

The DT-770: How bassy is it? Which amp should I get for it?

 

Any other headphones I should take a look at? I want something comfortable with even sound (I do not want any bass headphones)

 

Will I be able to hear any difference in the sound with Beyerdynamics over Ath-m50? Positive or negative? :)

 

Best regards,

 

Wenuz


Edited by 12wenuz34 - 5/4/14 at 3:00pm
post #9 of 13
As I already said, the DT880s leak sound both ways. If isolation is a concern, you need to forget about 'em smily_headphones1.gif

I think the DT770s is in the same class as the M50 when it comes to the amount of bass, but somewhat of a step up in overall sound quality.

However, if you want top privilege rock listening, the other closed headphones that Purple Angel and I suggested would be worth looking into for less bass emphasis, but still good bass extension: the A900X, K550, and HP100. You might also consider the AKG K545 as well. You can always EQ the bass up a little for dubstep. And the A900X, K550, and K545 are fairly easy to drive. The K550 and A900X should play plenty loud. The AKG K545 and HP100 you might want an amp for extra volume depending on how loud you listen, but they should still reach good volume without one and sound good.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

I've decided to go down and try a couple of beyerdynamic headphones instead of ordering online. I'll update what I get here, thank you for help so far! (I was pretty tempted to just order the DT-880, but I see now I would have to return 'em >.>)

Just a quick thing, which would benefit most from a good amp? The K550 or the DT770?

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by 12wenuz34 View Post
 

I've decided to go down and try a couple of beyerdynamic headphones instead of ordering online. I'll update what I get here, thank you for help so far! (I was pretty tempted to just order the DT-880, but I see now I would have to return 'em >.>)

Just a quick thing, which would benefit most from a good amp? The K550 or the DT770?

The K550s don't really need an amp, they sounded great out of my portable sources, as for the DT770, just about all Ohm variations will need a good amp (maybe excluding the 32 ohm version).

Also, just to help you on the Cans recommendations, if you wanted only one can to listen too for your genres, I would look into the HE400 for open, as I enjoyed them a lot for rock, and have fantastic bass for any sort of dubstep or electronic music, or if they needed to be closed, I would go with the K545 as they really created a great balance of clarity and detail but added some punchier bass and an overall bigger sound on the low-end compared to the k550, so those could cater towards your dubstep tastes. Lastly You could check out the M-Audio Q40. They remind me of a darker dt770 but with a satisfactory mid range You can pick up a new pair for $100 (or find them for almost half price used if you look around) and have to say they're an absolute steal at that price! I found the bass on them a bit warmer and punchier than the DT770s but retain an extremely good mid-range that's present and bodied. For the price you can currently get these at I would snag a pair and buy some Beyer velour pads to put on them ($20-$30 depends on where you look) and you'll have a pretty satisfactory setup with cash to spare for a light amp for them or even another pair of cans! (Sr80i, wonderful for rock)! Good luck man!


Edited by milk - 5/4/14 at 6:14pm
post #12 of 13
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Just a quick update: I went down in the audio store and used a couple of hours looking for headphones, and I decided to go with the DT-880, the sound is just... Incredible, my phone couldn't drive it at all so I got E11 to run with it. It's just perfect really, every genre sounds awesome. Best part is, unless I run it super loud no one around me can hear it at all.

post #13 of 13
Awesome! The DT880s do sound incredible smily_headphones1.gif
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