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post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post

I was responding to your comment about movie only speakers being a myth.

OK. I guess you didn't know that the Klipsch reference series has a reputation for being fatiguing for music and movies. That's why they are a love 'em or hate 'em kind of speakers. Very common for people to eventually upgrade from them to something else even with HT usage because of that. Although they tend to sell very well in brick and mortar stores because the extra treble energy makes them initially sound better than other speakers.

Of course they do have a reputation as HT speakers. But that's because they have a reputation for high sensitivity which allows them to reach higher volumes, even though their specifications have been shown to be inaccurate through third party testing.

But you should probably like the Klipsch because the horn is a wave guide design. As you said, that's what's important for good speakers for music, right wink.gif
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

OK. I guess you didn't know that the Klipsch reference series has a reputation for being fatiguing for music and movies. That's why they are a love 'em or hate 'em kind of speakers. Very common for people to eventually upgrade from them to something else even with HT usage because of that. Although they tend to sell very well in brick and mortar stores because the extra treble energy makes them initially sound better than other speakers.

Of course they do have a reputation as HT speakers. But that's because they have a reputation for high sensitivity which allows them to reach higher volumes, even though their specifications have been shown to be inaccurate through third party testing.

But you should probably like the Klipsch because the horn is a wave guide design. As you said, that's what's important for good speakers for music, right wink.gif

Since when does high sensitivity equal bright? You've obviously never heard JTR speakers or any of the SEOS designs from diysoundgroup. Waveguides are used for a more controlled dispersion. The LSR series have a soft dome tweeter for pete's sake. When has a soft dome tweeter ever been accused of naturally being bright? The reason Klipsch RF are tuned for upped treble is because it produces a false sense of greater dynamics in a HT environment. There is a reason bright speakers tend to be preferred by people in a HT environment. Is the LSR a better speaker just because it has a waveguide? No. The LSR is just a better engineered speaker than the Ascend. The CBM is a very old design which has held it's own for a long time but it's no longer the budget champion it once was and there is nothing wrong with that. If the OP wanted passive speakers I would point him to Cambridge Audio S30's. Another speaker that is better engineered than the Ascend.

Why are you equating a bright speaker to a horn/waveguide? You can use any kind of tweeter with this design. Don't get why you are so upset about my comment on the JBL being better than your Ascend. Hell I have some SVS MBS-01's (gen 1) in another room that cost 3x as much as the JBL and I still think the JBL hold their own against those. Although I'm sure you have actually never heard the JBL and you are just defending the honor of your prized Ascends which is totally fine.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by gus6464 View Post

Since when does high sensitivity equal bright? . . . .
Why are you equating a bright speaker to a horn/waveguide?

I obviously did not say nor imply either one of these things. rolleyes.gif

Meanwhile, you did apparently know about the Klipsch being fatiguing for both music and movies, but apparently were baiting me to make an argument based on a half truth.

I have no interest in discussing things with someone who seems intent on being misleading. I see no value in your opinions. Thank goodness for the block user feature so I no longer have to see your posts in a thread.
post #19 of 19
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In either case I thought I'd share my initial impressions.  The speakers were simple to setup (wires and such) and initial thoughts of the sound quality is positive.  Still need to work out placement, and dial in the sub to match. Even without having the placement dialed in, they are obviously a step above the old Audioengine A5+ speakers.  Looking forward to getting everything dialed in and letting them play a while, assuming they change with use.  Again, the improvement I am experiencing is likely partially due to the Tascam US-366 audio interface.

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