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$300 budget - HE400 vs Grado 325is?

post #1 of 39
Thread Starter 

Hi, 

 

I've read enough reviews & cant decide which one would be better. I listen to wide range of genres but mainly edm, rock, metal, trance.  

Any suggestions are welcome! 

post #2 of 39

I know Grados are good for Rock, but the HE-400 is good better for EDM. Have you considered anything else? I like my Denon D2000 for dubstep and rock. It's semi-closed.

post #3 of 39
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Originally Posted by cCasper TFG View Post
 

I like my Denon D2000 for dubstep and rock. It's semi-closed.

The denons while TECHNICALLY aren't sealed. They near enough as matters ARE sealed cans. But as a fellow owner of the AH-D2000 I will have to agree with you that they are very good for Dubstep, rock, EDM type music.


OP, open cans like the Grado will be better for orchestral music, or anything that needs a larger soundstage. The HE400 will have more bass, but are still open to give decent soundstage (not as much as the grados though). 

 

If you mainly listen to heavier bass genres it may behoove you to look into sealed headphones as they will give better bass impact and such. 

post #4 of 39

I'd get the HE-400 for the genres you mentioned.

post #5 of 39
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the inputs. I think the HE400 will be better as well, but I can't try any of them before buying. 

 

Regarding the Grado, I'm not sure if they will be good for Trance? 

post #6 of 39
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Originally Posted by sragoowanshi View Post
 

Thanks for the inputs. I think the HE400 will be better as well, but I can't try any of them before buying. 

 

Regarding the Grado, I'm not sure if they will be good for Trance? 

if you enjoy heavy bass the gardos are not for you. 

post #7 of 39
Thread Starter 
Oh I'm not a big fan of heavy bass. I don't like over emphasis on bass.
post #8 of 39
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Originally Posted by sragoowanshi View Post

Oh I'm not a big fan of heavy bass. I don't like over emphasis on bass.


I don't think I'd get either one. I would look at getting a used pair of HD600's or maybe some AKG 701 or 702. But if is down to one of those two I'd go for the Grado.

post #9 of 39
Thread Starter 
Hi,
any reason to prefer those? I always thought they are good reference cans.
also, could you explain why grado would be your choice?
thank you
post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by sragoowanshi View Post

Oh I'm not a big fan of heavy bass. I don't like over emphasis on bass.

I dont mean over emphasis, grados are open cans, you will get very little bass impact they will be light and airy, good for the midrange and highend while giving great soundstage, for all of the music types you listed however, bass is a very important feature. I would never recommend grados for someone who mainly listens to EDM,  rock, metal. and trance. 

If you enjoy the grado sound that's fine. But they really aren't meant for that kind of music particularly. 

post #11 of 39

I recommend the Philips Fidelio X1

 

open headphones with solid bass

check the reviews here, innerfidelity, anywhere FTM

post #12 of 39
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Originally Posted by kaboose View Post
 

I dont mean over emphasis, grados are open cans, you will get very little bass impact they will be light and airy, good for the midrange and highend while giving great soundstage, for all of the music types you listed however, bass is a very important feature. I would never recommend grados for someone who mainly listens to EDM,  rock, metal. and trance. 

If you enjoy the grado sound that's fine. But they really aren't meant for that kind of music particularly. 


Do you actually own some SR325i's bottom line you don't know what you are talking about. But I get it, it's all about the bass these days with most people and little else matters. SO get the bassist phones you can find and you will be happy.

post #13 of 39
Thread Starter 

oh alright Kaboose, thanks for the explanation. 

 

Zazex, ah yes they are good sets as well. But I remember reading that the mids are recessed & low bass is a bit loose. I have a set of B&W P3, as well, which probably has a similar sound signature? 

post #14 of 39
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Originally Posted by kaboose View Post
 

The denons while TECHNICALLY aren't sealed. They near enough as matters ARE sealed cans. But as a fellow owner of the AH-D2000 I will have to agree with you that they are very good for Dubstep, rock, EDM type music.


OP, open cans like the Grado will be better for orchestral music, or anything that needs a larger soundstage. The HE400 will have more bass, but are still open to give decent soundstage (not as much as the grados though)

 

If you mainly listen to heavier bass genres it may behoove you to look into sealed headphones as they will give better bass impact and such. 

 

@kaboose - I'm guessing from your comments that you don't own the 325i, nor probably have heard them?  As far as soundstage goes - all the SR range are pretty limited/narrow (despite being open).  Their presentation is very much in your face / on-stage with the musicians.  The last thing I'd call their soundstage is large.

 

OP - the 325i are fantastic cans - but are very bright.  if you get the chance it would pay to demo them before buying.  They are very easy to mod - and it's quite possible to get a little more bass out of them with some simple modification (it's mostly mid-bass though).  When I had mine, I liked them with most genres - but especially rock and acoustic.  Not so much for classical or orchestral.

 

I haven't heard the HE400 - so will let someone else comment on those.

 

The Grados are fast cans that do excel with Rock - particularly anything guitar related.  If you're looking for something with some of the Grado sparkle - but a little less coloured frequency response - also consider the Beyer DT880's.  They are much more comfortable for longer term listening as well.  I enjoy mine for EDM, Trance, and Rock (not a metal fan) - but even now I still  miss my old 325is (may repurchase at some stage).  I even went RS1 at one stage - but for me they never approached the pure fun of the 325is.

post #15 of 39

I just found your headphones for you and even better, there is an almost new pair for sale on the F/S forums here. Beyer DT660's Closed back for good bass, very balanced sound. If you can find the ad on the F/S forums he has a link to an extensive review on these forums for them. Best part if they are just a bit over $100 so you will have enough left over for an amp or a dac/amp. Every Beyer I have ever tried are super comfortable to wear too. Look on Amazon.com for a description and some reviews, see what you think. Also check out the AKG K550 as well, but I think the Beyer are a bit more of an all-around phone and more comfortable as well. I had forgot all about those Beyers as you don't see them mentioned too much as they aren't high-end enough to get many people interested.


Edited by HPiper - 5/2/14 at 11:34pm
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