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Man, I'd die of old age waiting to copy music on Class-4 cards haha! I've almost completely upgraded all my storage to SSD drives on Thunderbolt and transfer to my Extreme Pro cards at 95Mbs is at a nice pace. I'll try Papper's way, thank you very much. biggrin.gif

Well, you have top speed at front end but your back end (Tera) won't play it and you've stalled LOL.  

 

Yes, Class 4 speed will kill you while you've getting used to those lightning speed.

post #587 of 2244
Happy New year.

I am planning to be there too. Will be great to see you both again.

Ade
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Please spread the word about the UK meet as I'm hoping that there'll be at least 3 Tera Players present.
post #588 of 2244

After reformatting the 2 Sandisk Extreme (60mbs) 32Gb SDHC cards on a PC (tried both exFAT and FAT32) and loaded with the exact same music on the Kingston cards in the exact same naming/directory format, I still get the blue light of death on the Tera. No music. Quite sad.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with the cards. The speed and capacity checked out, no reason to suspect they are fakes since I bought them from a reputable store and they have stored whatever I threw at them and the files show up fine in different devices.

 

I can only conclude that Tera doesn't like these cards. But what stumps me if why they were fine in the beginning and not after I reformatted the cards, which I have done with the Kingston cards and had no problems?

post #589 of 2244
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Originally Posted by efftee View Post
 

After reformatting the 2 Sandisk Extreme (60mbs) 32Gb SDHC cards on a PC (tried both exFAT and FAT32) and loaded with the exact same music on the Kingston cards in the exact same naming/directory format, I still get the blue light of death on the Tera. No music. Quite sad.

 

I don't think there's anything wrong with the cards. The speed and capacity checked out, no reason to suspect they are fakes since I bought them from a reputable store and they have stored whatever I threw at them and the files show up fine in different devices.

 

I can only conclude that Tera doesn't like these cards. But what stumps me if why they were fine in the beginning and not after I reformatted the cards, which I have done with the Kingston cards and had no problems?

 One more thing you could try, download Gui Format at http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm

Just click on the picture and it will download the program.

Insert your card and start the program, it should recognize your card.

Adjust the cluster size to 32768 and untag quick format (see attached picture)

 

post #590 of 2244

Ooh, this is a PC program. Looks like I have to mobilise the IT department for this haha!

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Ooh, this is a PC program. Looks like I have to mobilise the IT department for this haha!

Never could get used to OSX....
Maybe Tera has the same problem :-)
post #592 of 2244

I'm happy to report that both the Sandisk cards are working fine now. I didn't have to use the GUI Format app; the IT boys knew what they were doing so they just reformatted it to FAT32 on a PC, but heard they needed to reset some size thing, which was wrong, and then it's fixed! Very happy now. Maybe when I am bored later, I'll go reformat those cards on my Mac and see what happens... :evil:

post #593 of 2244
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Originally Posted by efftee View Post

I'm happy to report that both the Sandisk cards are working fine now. I didn't have to use the GUI Format app; the IT boys knew what they were doing so they just reformatted it to FAT32 on a PC, but heard they needed to reset some size thing, which was wrong, and then it's fixed! Very happy now. Maybe when I am bored later, I'll go reformat those cards on my Mac and see what happens... evil_smiley.gif

Congrats and might I suggest a cup of coffee for your IT guys next time :-)
post #594 of 2244
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Originally Posted by efftee View Post
 

I'm happy to report that both the Sandisk cards are working fine now. I didn't have to use the GUI Format app; the IT boys knew what they were doing so they just reformatted it to FAT32 on a PC, but heard they needed to reset some size thing, which was wrong, and then it's fixed! Very happy now. Maybe when I am bored later, I'll go reformat those cards on my Mac and see what happens... :evil:

If it's not too much trouble it would be great if your IT guys can briefly summarize and pass along what exactly they did. For example, which size was wrong and how exactly they fixed it (which command they ran to format the disk and with which parameters).

post #595 of 2244
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Originally Posted by tgdinamo View Post
 

If it's not too much trouble it would be great if your IT guys can briefly summarize and pass along what exactly they did. For example, which size was wrong and how exactly they fixed it (which command they ran to format the disk and with which parameters).

 

Just FYI, this printscreen has the settings I use in GuiFormat without a problem for the Tera and the things the software does (in Windows).

 

post #596 of 2244
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Originally Posted by ThaPapper View Post
 

 

Just FYI, this printscreen has the settings I use in GuiFormat without a problem for the Tera and the things the software does (in Windows).

 

 

Thanks. After you do this, do you have any blue light problems after deleting/replacing albums on SD cards? In other words, do you have to repeat this reformat process (on windows) frequently or was it a one time thing after which it has been stable ever since without any more reformatting?

post #597 of 2244
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Originally Posted by tgdinamo View Post
 

 

Thanks. After you do this, do you have any blue light problems after deleting/replacing albums on SD cards? In other words, do you have to repeat this reformat process (on windows) frequently or was it a one time thing after which it has been stable ever since without any more reformatting?

 

Actually I didn't know, never took the risk and always wrote the entire card at once during the night :-)

 

But just made a test on a small 4 Gb card:

- filled it with 5 complete albums with almost no more space left

- randomly removed songs from each album until in total about 600 Mb free space

- then wrote another complete album with approx 550 Mb

This way the songs in the last album must have ended up fysically scattered all over the place.

Started all albums and counted songs in each album, no problem at all :-)

 

However previously I found some other probable causes disturbing my Tera's ecosystem (endless blue light):

Some albums (not all of them though) with higher bit depth / sample rates e.g. 32/48.000 or 24/88.200 or

containing meta-tags with artist, album and pictures of albums.

 

Never bothered finding the true culprit but found my Tera functions 100% and very snappy if I convert all albums

to 16 bit with Audacity and remove all meta tags and pictures with Foobar.

post #598 of 2244
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Originally Posted by ThaPapper View Post
 

 

Actually I didn't know, never took the risk and always wrote the entire card at once during the night :-)

 

But just made a test on a small 4 Gb card:

- filled it with 5 complete albums with almost no more space left

- randomly removed songs from each album until in total about 600 Mb free space

- then wrote another complete album with approx 550 Mb

This way the songs in the last album must have ended up fysically scattered all over the place.

Started all albums and counted songs in each album, no problem at all :-)

 

However previously I found some other probable causes disturbing my Tera's ecosystem (endless blue light):

Some albums (not all of them though) with higher bit depth / sample rates e.g. 32/48.000 or 24/88.200 or

containing meta-tags with artist, album and pictures of albums.

 

Never bothered finding the true culprit but found my Tera functions 100% and very snappy if I convert all albums

to 16 bit with Audacity and remove all meta tags and pictures with Foobar.

 

Thanks. This does not explain some of the issues I ran into. I always strip out all tags from new hires albums etc using XLD software on mac (and also use that to convert everything to 16bit WAVs which I then permanently store on multiple hard drives so I don't have to convert same albums over and over again to use on Tera - rational being disk space is cheaper than my time dealing with it).

But still, no matter which SD cards I use, I have found that the only reliable way where I never get a blue light is to format the SD cards to FAT32 (in my case on a mac), and copy all music I want to the SD card at the same time - using multiple select and copy all at once). Anything else - copying one album at the time, or deleting/replacing albums/songs is a hit and miss in terms of blue light issue, and this is no matter which cards I use (no matter size or brand). So this is hit and miss with copying EXACTLY the same files and folder structure, the only difference being whether I copy them all at once to freshly formatted card, as opposed to doing anything else.

post #599 of 2244
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Originally Posted by tgdinamo View Post
 

 

Thanks. This does not explain some of the issues I ran into. I always strip out all tags from new hires albums etc using XLD software on mac (and also use that to convert everything to 16bit WAVs which I then permanently store on multiple hard drives so I don't have to convert same albums over and over again to use on Tera - rational being disk space is cheaper than my time dealing with it).

But still, no matter which SD cards I use, I have found that the only reliable way where I never get a blue light is to format the SD cards to FAT32 (in my case on a mac), and copy all music I want to the SD card at the same time - using multiple select and copy all at once). Anything else - copying one album at the time, or deleting/replacing albums/songs is a hit and miss in terms of blue light issue, and this is no matter which cards I use (no matter size or brand). So this is hit and miss with copying EXACTLY the same files and folder structure, the only difference being whether I copy them all at once to freshly formatted card, as opposed to doing anything else.

 

It starts to look like the Tera somehow might be picky about Mac formatted Fat32 SD Cards?

Efftee's Tera didn't read these cards at all and your's has problems with random copied files.

Can't help you there, no Mac in my circle of friends, sorry....

 

Maybe Charles knows the answer?

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Thread Starter 
Best way to enjoy Tera is to use cards up to 32 GB as no format is needed,or if you plan to use SDXC format in windows 7 using a quality card reader.
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