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post #256 of 2244

I just noticed that Charles has posted some interesting info (I think) on another site (this is few months old but I have not seen it before - sounds like vintage Charles for those of you who remember his posts before he was banned)

 

http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/head/messages/2866.html

post #257 of 2244
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No wonder that many people includding the reviews say that Tera player is the best to natural organic sounding portable music player at the moment.
Whoever for those who want to improve the sound of the Koss porta moddified headphones just replace the pads with foam ones,check ebay,the sound is more open with bigger soundstage and micro detailes.
post #258 of 2244
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Originally Posted by musicday View Post

No wonder that many people includding the reviews say that Tera player is the best to natural organic sounding portable music player at the moment.
Whoever for those who want to improve the sound of the Koss porta moddified headphones just replace the pads with foam ones,check ebay,the sound is more open with bigger soundstage and micro detailes.

Saw a few types in ebay. Can provide a link?

post #259 of 2244
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post #260 of 2244

First I've seen that he switched DACs for production from a reliable source. If so, I was mistaken and apologize for the error but it changes nothing in terms implied sound quality which I've never once questioned. Still nice to know he seems to have enough around for years of production so the angst over quantity seems ill founded.:smile: Glad you guys found a forum to talk to Charles openly and get the correct info. If it was noted here that a talk with him confirmed the change, I doubt anyone would have disagreed. The 8552 info was taken from his own 'making of' site. 

 

I think the old threads got off track due to misinformation about spec by advocates as much as 'haters'. Members trolling other DAP threads didn't help give benefit of doubt either. 

 

How long did the initial thread run before it was pointed out it didn't have beyond 16bit res. to argument. Saying that it maxes out at 16bit res, has a highish output impedance and some high frequency roll is not dumping on the unit. It's simply pointing out compromises that Charles has chosen for his take on proper sonic performance. The problem was that all these design choices, and that's what they are because Charles and obviously advocates like it that way, (I may as well) were fought about here for no good reason. I have never heard a Tera, though I have listened to his home DAC, and suspect that I'd agree it does sound very good. That doesn't change the fact that without a screen, HiDef, and with use of certain transducers, won't be best for everyone. Charles has no marketing dilemma. He suggest you do what any smart person would. Listen for yourself if you can accept it's navigation and cost and I couldn't agree more. 

 

Sorry to rehash but that link does the same, sometimes misrepresents the above view as 'hater' and one of my posts was directly referenced. Of course there were those that will never give the Tera a chance due to specs but there are those that will never give a hm901 a chance due to size or A&K a chance due to cost etc. It was the adversarial aspect of member discussion and Charles going ballistic that caused the old threads to go away and I don't think it was one sided. This one probably has a better chance of sticking around sans links with headfi spin to them. I hope it does. The industry needs more free thinkers/innovators/mad scientists like Charles.:beerchug: 


Edited by goodvibes - 9/28/14 at 6:03am
post #261 of 2244
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I do not care personally if it doesnt play 24 bit files as long as the sound it produce is better then most others hi rez daps.
post #262 of 2244

Nor should you or anyone if you think it does. Never was an issue for me either. Sound and stats are 2 different aspects of any design. I've always believed that specs say little about sound. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be properly represented in discussion of same. #s need to go very wrong before one can know something isn't good. Have to have a listen to know if something is actually good.


Edited by goodvibes - 9/28/14 at 9:11am
post #263 of 2244
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I do not care personally if it doesnt play 24 bit files as long as the sound it produce is better then most others hi rez daps.

 

Same here. By the way, on various forums I have seen posts where people claim that 24 bit is far more important than 96k or 192k (which many people claim is actually not all that important and that 48k is all you need).

However my own experience with Tera is completely opposite to those claims - higher res HDTracks albums ripped to 192/16 often sound noticeably better on Tera than many of those same albums that I have in CD resolution (44k/16). Also, the exact same HDTracks albums (192/24) sound better on Tera (even though it only plays them in 16bit) than on even some of the best 24 bit players (for example AK120 or HM901).

This to me more than anything else highlights the incredible feat Charles was able to accomplish with Tera.

post #264 of 2244

I do think the 24 bit part is more important but that doesn't diminish higher sample rates. I do prefer 24/48 to 16/192 on the best DAC I know of. Doesn't mean that a Tera can't play 16/192 better than another DAP does 24/48 or 24/192 to even my ear if I had the opportunity to experience it. You guys need to separate general opinions from Tera specific comments. I find a lot of HiDef files lacking as well so there's all sorts of room for debate. I prefer PCM to DSD as well but I know that a lot of PCM type DACs could be better so that generality has been experienced differently by others. I suspect that's something Charles would agree with. I'm a fan of ladder dacs as well.


Edited by goodvibes - 9/28/14 at 9:10am
post #265 of 2244
Quick Q: what's the difference between the two earphone sockets? Thanks! Noob. smily_headphones1.gif
post #266 of 2244

Tera has 2 jacks, superduper at 10 Ohm and teramega with 20 Ohm

post #267 of 2244
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Tera has 2 jacks, superduper at 10 Ohm and teramega with 20 Ohm

Which is which? centre one is....?

post #268 of 2244
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Which is which? centre one is....?

Center one is teramega and outer one is superduper. Charles implied to me that the teramega has a bit of crossfeed implemented.
post #269 of 2244
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Question,how many of you use 128 GB card in Tera,and how do you listen..I wish the shuffle function was perfect to make listening easier for bigger cards.
post #270 of 2244
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Question,how many of you use 128 GB card in Tera,and how do you listen..I wish the shuffle function was perfect to make listening easier for bigger cards.

I have several 128 GB cards - one for each major genre (ie Rock, Blues, Jazz, Folk/Country).

I have loaded most of my favorite artists/albums on those cards and pretty much don't change the content on those cards at all (treat them as read-only).

It's not too difficult to manage because I tend to have all the albums from my favorite artists in there (ie all Stones, Doors, Eagles, Van Halen, ZZ Top, Talking Heads, etc albums in there for  my rock SD card - and I name them by prefixing the year of release to each album). This way once I hit the first folder for any artist I know the first album under that artist will be the earliest one I have from them etc - of you know your artists well this is easy to navigate).

I never use random - I use Tera like I used to use my vinyl player way back when I was a teenager (except it's easier to skip forward cause I don't have to worry about dropping the needle and damaging the record ;)

If random function was working perfectly perhaps I would use it some more - but I don't really miss it too much.

In addition to multiple 128 GB cards I also have several 32GB and 16GB cards where I keep stuff I listen to most often (and that is the mix of all different kinds of artists, styles, etc - often the latest albums I have purchased from HDTracks).

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