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post #16 of 31
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Update time!

 

I've been using these for the better part of the week now, avoiding all my other buds. Why? Great question. I don't know.

 

After probably 100+ hours of use, I have to say they are a pretty fun IEM. I much prefer them to the Panasonic RP-HJE120 which were my previous sub 10 CAD favorites. I would take them over the JVC HA-FR201s any day of the week as the treble is no nowhere near as uncomfortable, I prefer the mids, and while they cannot produce the deep bass of the 201s, they keep up pretty well. The UE100 I have are the most boring IEMs I've ever listened to, so these are miles better IMO, even if the UE100 are technically stronger. I even set aside my new Sony XB50s...

 

These really shine at high volume, which is not something I could have said earlier in their lifespan. Despite having significantly recessed mids and highs before, these babies got harsh when blasting it. Now though, they sound pretty darn solid. You could argue this is brain burn in (certainly part of it), but I really do think these things have gone through a midlife crisis and have matured into a decent all around IEM.

 

I mentioned in another post that some high notes would have a metallic tinge to them. Gone. The bass used to be overpowering. Now that they seem to have developed the ability to produce mids, the bass is perfect. Nice and punchy. Guitars no longer sound like they are playing in another room. I am also constantly surprised by how deep the soundstage is. Listening to some internet radio at work today, a song came on that had a distant voice call out. The first time it happened I took out a bud to see who was speaking to me. That's only ever happen with my FXT90s.


 

The best part? They are foolproof for getting a good seal. Just jam them in and you are good to go. No driver flex either. I don't know what kind of cheap arse rubber they are using for these tips, but it works wonders. You can shake your head around like some crazy possessed hell spawn, and they stay put, but give them a solid tug and out they slide. No popping of the ears. I love it.

 

I kind of want 'nick n' to pick them up just to see how he feels after giving them some time to burn in...at the very least they could work as a donor housing (as he suggested earlier) if he could rip em apart safely. Would be interesting to see the size of the driver. I'm guessing somewhere between 8-10 mm.

 

I was also debating buying another pair just to see if above is all bullpocky and they really haven't changed any. There is one set left at my local Superstore...hmmmm.

post #17 of 31

just noticed this thread I'll see about whipping out and grabbing some if they still have them at this location. Thanks for pounding the heck out of them and I like:

"I've been using these for the better part of the week now, avoiding all my other buds. Why? Great question. I don't know."

 

I say go with it ! and don't think about it...if it sounds good it sounds good it doesn't have to make sense. Hope I can grab some.

post #18 of 31
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just noticed this thread I'll see about whipping out and grabbing some if they still have them at this location. Thanks for pounding the heck out of them and I like:

"I've been using these for the better part of the week now, avoiding all my other buds. Why? Great question. I don't know."



 

I say go with it ! and don't think about it...if it sounds good it sounds good it doesn't have to make sense. Hope I can grab some.


I have no idea if you'll like them. I'm sure you will enjoy a good laugh at how muddy they are out of the box, but, some heavy play time seems to work wonders.


 

Listening to Supertramp's Crime of the Century with them made me wince a week ago. It was like half the album was missing. The opening to School still sounds a little iffy, but the piano solo that starts around the 3 minute mark has some nice punch, and the sax is well represented. Bloody Well Right actually sounds pretty awesome.


 

A/Bing them with my T90s last night definitely showed that these are easily outclassed, however; listening to the same songs immediately after using the T90s was still a pleasant experience. The Js are definitely more laid back and less in your face.


 

I still wouldn't recommend them for much besides EDM (have not tried metal yet) or hip hop, but they are growing on me for classic rock.


 

I love these odd little IEMs.

 

**Edit: Been listening to Soilworks Natural Born Choas. These fail badly for metal (at least this album). They just can't keep up with the wicked fast drumming. Too bad, because guitars sound pretty goo now. **


Edited by B9Scrambler - 5/12/14 at 6:44am
post #19 of 31

Housings on mine are mint!

 

Ahh you confirmed my suspicion there was only one set of tips, normally I use large but these really wide bore things seem to work pretty good provided I insert them correctly ( pull back on ears )

 

I am tempted to try some of the Comply Sport foams, since they seem a little more transparent than the TX series. But right now they are with their big brother the on ears ones breaking in.

 

The cable is really nice silcone type thing also. I've seen worse on other iems for sure!

 

Not going to say how much they were it is ridiculously cheap. I am focussing on the sound aside from the cost hopefully I can keep that in perspective and separated in my mind. Make sense? If not oh well:wink_face:

post #20 of 31
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Housings on mine are mint!


 

Ahh you confirmed my suspicion there was only one set of tips, normally I use large but these really wide bore things seem to work pretty good provided I insert them correctly ( pull back on ears )


 

I am tempted to try some of the Comply Sport foams, since they seem a little more transparent than the TX series. But right now they are with their big brother the on ears ones breaking in.


 

The cable is really nice silcone type thing also. I've seen worse on other iems for sure!


 

Not going to say how much they were it is ridiculously cheap. I am focussing on the sound aside from the cost hopefully I can keep that in perspective and separated in my mind. Make sense? If not oh well:wink_face:


 

The housings on my second pair were mint, which I was glad about.

 

Definitely give the Compys a whirl. I used the stock tips for a while, then tried JVC's wide bore ones that came stock with all my JVC IEMs. I pretty much use them only with Complys now. With my first pair they tame some of the wicked bass, and on my second pair they tame the occasional shrillness of the treble. Its amazing how different the two pairs sound, given they are the same model. Noticed the same thing with the two pairs of 'Metal Earbuds'

 

Yeah, it is always nice to separate cost from quality. I fail horrible at that, lmao. If they are inexpensive and sound good, I'm content.

 

There are the 'Metal Earbuds', which previously had metal metal filters on both ends. Going through the wash four or five times fixed that :s Surprised they still work...

 

post #21 of 31

Thanks when I head out again to get more woodies i will see if they are there, just one colour? You said they were on clearance so not many left in your location? Same spot as the others?

 

Yeah it seems hard for some people to not put things in price brackets or use that to judge things, I try to close my eyes and forget about that but still hard.

 

Thanks again for posting about these.

 

In my opinion it is a welcome thing that they vary in sound a bit, hopefully it is not too much or we are looking at simply a quality control issue that gives a majority of great ones and a few duds.

One of the 2 only I hope.:beerchug: 


Edited by nick n - 6/1/14 at 4:14pm
post #22 of 31
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Thanks when I head out again to get more woodies i will see if they are there, just one colour? You said they were on clearance so not many left in your location? Same spot as the others?
 

Yeah it seems hard for some people to not put things in price brackets or use that to judge things, I try to close my eyes and forget about that but still hard.

Thanks again for posting about these.

In my opinion it is a welcome thing that they vary in sound a bit, hopefully it is not too much or we are looking at simply a quality control issue that gives a majority of great ones and a few duds.

One of the 2 only I hope.:beerchug:




 

They only come in the one colour, but my second pair are considerably lighter, lol (mind you I am red/blue deficient, so I'm not one to speak on colour...)


 


You can also see above how they look with the stock vs. Comply tips. Now that I have them both out and am a/bing them, I have to say that the older pair definitely produce a much deeper, more lush bass than the newer pair. Mids are more recessed (nothing like they were out of the box though, thank gawd) and treble seems about the same, with the newer pair slightly more detailed (high hats are more focused sounding for example). They do not sound like the same model IEM (even with the same tips)...


 

Using Broken Bells' self titled album as a test at the moment. Not sure which pair I prefer...


 

While the inconsistency is kind of annoying, it definitely makes them interesting, haha.

 

They only had one pair left when I bought the first ones, and since those had been opened and tested I avoided them. When I went back to see if they anything new or on sale, I saw they had set up a new display with the 'Stereo Headphones' on clearance, with a few woodies dispersed throughout the display. The new IEMs which I assume are replacing the woodies and 'Metal Earbuds' actually come with additional tips, and one pair has a fabric cable...waiting for them to drop in price :P.

 

Ps. Neither are a dud, just different :)


Edited by B9Scrambler - 6/1/14 at 4:54pm
post #23 of 31
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Well, it's been a while, but I finally have something new to bring to the table regarding these wooden goodies.



 

Unfortunately, the build quality woes I mentioned in my original impressions came to fruition and well, they broke when removing one of the tips. Mind you, this was my original set that were already cracked out of the box. They separated on the cracked side only. The other housing is fine, along with those on my other pair, so I think this will be an isolated incident.



 


Since they were already apart, I decided to take a closer look. Pretty sure they have 8mm drivers (forgot to measure while they were out...) and noticed that the nice port on the back is just for show.



 

After a touch of stabby and a smidge of pokey, the port is now not just window dressing.



 


Nick, I highly suggest poking a hole back there. I found these to have a pretty solid soundstage in the first place, but they reaaaaally open up with this simple mod. The silver caps can be pried off the back with little effort, and the hole can be filled in easily if you don't like it, so it's worth giving it a go.



 

By the way, how did you like them? Never saw an update past seeing them on the burn station. :)


Edited by B9Scrambler - 7/9/14 at 4:58pm
post #24 of 31

Hi thanks for posting on these. Someone else tried them briefly also. I have sooo much stuff it is ridiculous. So getting rotation on everything takes time. I still like them though.

 You know what, it might actually be a BONUS if they can separate there, think of the modding possibilities.

 

That hole there was not there at all before? If not what size drill bit did you use/how big is that hole?

 

So more soundstage. Think I might take a drive out tonight and get a few more to mess around with then, Thanks for posting, sometimes stuff that looks like a mistake turns beneficial. Great pic of the inside.


Edited by nick n - 7/9/14 at 5:27pm
post #25 of 31
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Hi thanks for posting on these. Someone else tried them briefly also. I have sooo much stuff it is ridiculous. So getting rotation on everything takes time. I still like them though.

 You know what, it might actually be a BONUS if they can separate there, think of the modding possibilities.



 

That hole there was not there at all before? If not what size drill bit did you use/how big is that hole?



 

So more soundstage. Think I might take a drive out tonight and get a few more to mess around with then, Thanks for posting, sometimes stuff that looks like a mistake turns beneficial. Great pic of the inside.


I completely understand. I've been buying cheap-o IEMs out the wazoo lately hoping to find some gems.


 

There was no hole at all. If you pry off the silver cap, you are greeted with a wall of fake wood. I was being literal when I said "After a touch of stabby and a smidge of pokey";


 


The hole is about 1mm in size. Probably a little large, but...well....I stabbed the crap out of it, haha.


 

Can you send a link to the impressions someone else left? I can't find them and am interested in hearing what they had to say.

 

**Edit**

 

For anyone who has these and opts to port them where I did, you can easily test the increase in soundstage depth by simply covering the port with a piece of tape and removing/reapplying it while listening. It has the effect of pulling the driver away from your ear. Definitely a sound improvement imo.


Edited by B9Scrambler - 7/9/14 at 7:01pm
post #26 of 31

All right you two quit fracking around and pop a set of Philips 3580 drivers or something in there.

post #27 of 31
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All right you two quit fracking around and pop a set of Philips 3580 drivers or something in there.


If I were going to perform a driver transplant, I would be taking the ones from the Headrush Rhapsody and installing those to see what levels of stupid bass they could put out with a decent sized housing. :D

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If I were going to perform a driver transplant, I would be taking the ones from the Headrush Rhapsody and installing those to see what levels of stupid bass they could put out with a decent sized housing. :D


Go for it man! Quick hurry, before Nick crams a T50 driver in one and steals all the glory:)

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Go for it man! Quick hurry, before Nick crams a T50 driver in one and steals all the glory:)


Well then...I suppose I'll have to buy a soldering iron, learn to use it without destroying everything (which admittedly is quite entertaining) and pick up another set of Rhapsody for the donation. Not sure if you saw my thread on them, but for the housing alone they would be great to pick up. A nice rip-off on the ClarityOne and probably perfect for a beater for gym use or whatever.

post #30 of 31

Speaking of soundstage they look like a nice little pinch of Angel Hair would fit in there. The gears are working.

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