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Originally Posted by xTHExKelevra View Post
 

I don't really care if they are portable. I don't like to use an EQ if I don't have to. I don't currently use an amp, but I've been meaning to look more into that as well. If you have any recommendations on amps as I'd love the hear them.  

 

If you don't have an amp, you don't want to go much about $200-$300 or you won't be getting the best sound possible.

 

A commonly recommend amp in this thread that is versatile and basshead-worthy is the Cayin C5.

 

I'll quote myself from a couple pages back first (this is roughly in escalating price and basshead performance). These are headphones I'd be down with no EQ on:

 

The Audio-Technica WS99 hit hard and have a V shaped signature. The earpads aren't terribly big. Some people recommend the Brainwavz HM5 pads for these, but they seemed to leak sound for me. The new HM5 Angled pads might not leak sound with them (they're a little narrower), but they weren't out when I had these headphones.

The V-Moda Crossfade M-100 sound good and hit hard. Also V shaped sound. They have XL pads that are mandatory for comfort. If you have particularly large ears, they still won't fit.

 

The AudioQuest Nighthawk are quite solid and do not cause any fatigue at all over extended periods. I feel like they benefit from but don't require a decent amp. They're pretty darn expensive, though. Semi-open, so they don't isolate a ton.

 

Fostex TH600 (then TH900) are amazing but cost a lot and need a good amp to pair with. You probably don't want to start here because of diminishing returns. Semi-closed, so they don't isolate a ton.

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Just curious, what are the differences between the Fostex th600 and th900 aside from the fancy paint job and metal vs wood housing? I know the th900 has a Tesla 1.5 magnet vs a 1 magnet in the th600, but what does this entail? Are the 50mm diaphragms the same?

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Originally Posted by DooberKnob View Post
 

Just curious, what are the differences between the Fostex th600 and th900 aside from the fancy paint job and metal vs wood housing? I know the th900 has a Tesla 1.5 magnet vs a 1 magnet in the th600, but what does this entail? Are the 50mm diaphragms the same?

 

They are essentially the same. Some people think the TH900 hits harder, but I haven't seen many A/B tests (especially no blind tests). I got the TH600 with the expectation that I'd eventually replace the magnesium cups with either Lawton wood cups or TH900 cups (also from Lawton Audio).

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH600.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf

 

The short answer, I guess, is that the TH900 theoretically sound slightly better. However much better they sound is probably not worth double the price unless you have money falling out of your pockets.

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They are essentially the same. Some people think the TH900 hits harder, but I haven't seen many A/B tests (especially no blind tests). I got the TH600 with the expectation that I'd eventually replace the magnesium cups with either Lawton wood cups or TH900 cups (also from Lawton Audio).

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH600.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf

 

The short answer, I guess, is that the TH900 theoretically sound slightly better. However much better they sound is probably not worth double the price unless you have money falling out of your pockets.


That's kind of what I was suspecting. The only real, non-cosmetic difference seems to be the higher gauss rating of the th900 (15,000 vs. 1,000) but I have no idea what this means in the context of headphone sound quality.

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That's kind of what I was suspecting. The only real, non-cosmetic difference seems to be the higher gauss rating of the th900 (15,000 vs. 1,000) but I have no idea what this means in the context of headphone sound quality.

 

It also has a slightly better cable. Both have very good stock cables, though.  You can get them reterminated/replaced at various places (Moon, Lawton, eCasperTFG on Etsy, maybe Norne Audio) if you are worried about the cables.

 

The gauss rating theoretically increases the dynamic range of the headphone, although the TH600 goes beyond what pretty much any music needs at its rating anyway.

 

The differences are subtle. It's like a gold vs. silver medal at the olympics. Both runners are crazy fast, and the silver medal winner comes in hundredths of a second after the gold, but the gold medal winner is still better.

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The in-laws headed back home, so I can finally A/B my Fostex TH-600 with the AudioQuest Nighthawk. With the exact same settings swapping between the headphones within a couple seconds of each other (both stay plugged in the entire time), The Nighthawk hits nearly as hard as the Fostex.

 

That is pretty incredible considering that the Nighthawk has such plush earpads. When I swap the TH-600 to use Brainwavz HM5 earpads, the Nighthawk actually keeps right up.

 

Neither headphone has been broken in for the suggested 150 hours, so it's possible one or the other will ultimately dominate the comparison.

 

It should be noted that both headphones are 25 Ohms. The Fostex TH-600 has a sensitivity of 94 dB SPL/mW, and the AudioQuest Nighthawk has a sensitivity of 100 dB SPL/mW. That means the Nighthawks are slightly louder than the Fostex at the same settings on my system, so they'll get a little bit of extra punch from volume.

 

Even so, I'm very impressed with the bass on these things. I wish I still had the V-Moda Crossfade M-100, because I'm pretty sure the Nighthawks hit harder.

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Originally Posted by Luckbad View Post
 

 

They are essentially the same. 

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH600.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf

 

 

Have both the same ear pads too?

 

I want to buy some for modding my D7000.

post #4433 of 4437
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Originally Posted by Luckbad View Post
 

The in-laws headed back home, so I can finally A/B my Fostex TH-600 with the AudioQuest Nighthawk. With the exact same settings swapping between the headphones within a couple seconds of each other (both stay plugged in the entire time), The Nighthawk hits nearly as hard as the Fostex.

 

That is pretty incredible considering that the Nighthawk has such plush earpads. When I swap the TH-600 to use Brainwavz HM5 earpads, the Nighthawk actually keeps right up.

 

Neither headphone has been broken in for the suggested 150 hours, so it's possible one or the other will ultimately dominate the comparison.

 

It should be noted that both headphones are 25 Ohms. The Fostex TH-600 has a sensitivity of 94 dB SPL/mW, and the AudioQuest Nighthawk has a sensitivity of 100 dB SPL/mW. That means the Nighthawks are slightly louder than the Fostex at the same settings on my system, so they'll get a little bit of extra punch from volume.

 

Even so, I'm very impressed with the bass on these things. I wish I still had the V-Moda Crossfade M-100, because I'm pretty sure the Nighthawks hit harder.

How do they compare between 20-50hz? I would image the TH-600 would have the edge there since they're closed back.

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How do they compare between 20-50hz? I would image the TH-600 would have the edge there since they're closed back.

 

TH-600 seem to hit a little harder in the sub-bass (including 20-50Hz). Both of them block about the same amount of outside noise--halfway between an open and closed headphone. The AudioQuest Nighthawk are semi-open, and the Fostex TH-600 are semi-closed. That apparently means exactly the same thing. I have no issues (nor do my coworkers) using either in my office, but I don't work in a library and I don't listen to super loud music while I work.

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Can't believe I've actually found a pair of beats that I like. Needed something that didn't leak like a seave, for on the bus, and good for exercising. Don't want to get my Mastertracks sweaty. Decided to pick up a pair of Powerbeats2 from Best Buy, and I'm thoroughly enjoying them. Has powerful bass with the tweaks I've made
Edited by NewWaveAudio - Yesterday at 12:40 am
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Can't believe I've actually found a pair of beats that I like. Needed something that didn't leak like a seave, for on the bus, and good for exercising. Don't want to get my Mastertracks sweaty. Decided to pick up a pair of Powerbeats2 from Best Buy, and I'm thoroughly enjoying them. Has powerful bass with the tweaks I've made

 

 

I like the Beats Mixrs myself. And the Monster Npulse over ears. The Beats haters are off their rocker. I know some expensive gear made of plastic and sound is poor. That's at least 30% of the stuff talked about in here.

 

 

R.I.P "Rowdy"

 

 

Edited by Hawaiibadboy - Yesterday at 7:55 am
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Watching Rowdy Roddy as a kid afforded me the first time I can remember thinking, "Aw Sh!t...  You've gone and F__KED UP now!  You've pissed off THE PIPER."  He's got that "look"  (Evil, no more Loki-like mischief grin.)  Time to pay THE PIPER!  Closest thing to the "Wolverine" X-Men Character in the WWF.  HE wasn't that big, but he would chop opponents down to size.  (Usually after taking QUITE a beating.  Kinda' like Wolverine in that respect as well....)

 

He will be greatly missed.  I'm even sadder than when we lost Andre, and I actually still watched WWF when HE passed.  Not to compare them, just saying....  D@MN.


Edited by knorris908 - Yesterday at 6:53 pm
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