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post #346 of 8520
I look at a response graph for the pros, and I see a 15db peak in the mid-bass, and a 10db peak in the mid treble... I get how they said treble roll off, but its not all the treble. Only 10khz and up. Typical for a DJ headphone.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 6/7/14 at 6:07pm
post #347 of 8520
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Originally Posted by kilspeed111 View Post

Hey, HBB, could you please please please vid the SZ2000 using this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHdaJJiXbU8
I think it hits harder than 'on my level', correct me if I'm wrong.

Awesome find dude - this track is bass DEEP and probs the only serious contender to Wiz Khalifa's - On my level cool.gif

post #348 of 8520
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


I think you will be pleasantly surprised, just remember that without EQing the bass these cans can seem tame, but with bass EQ added, these cans come into their own.

To really feel a wall of jaw vibrating bass from my SZ2000's I use Fiio E17 amp/DAC and push the bass EQ to max (setting No.10) and if you play a bass bomb track like below, you will feel the full force of what these cans are capable of cool.gifbiggrin.gif
 

Here's the first video playing through my SZ2000's using EQ - keep a check on how the two pieces of paper are moved by the strength of bass.

Same paper test using same track and EQ settings, only this time on vibe Black Death Bass cans - the difference between these two cans strength of bass is pretty clear cut...

 

 

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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


Awesome find dude - this track is bass DEEP and probs the only serious contender to Wiz Khalifa's - On my level cool.gif
 

I'm just going to throw this at you guyz but Both Whizs Track and this one are pretty sloppy in bass texture and in addition are pretty mid bass heavy, they might go as deep as 40 hrz maybe, my W1000x has a clear sub bass slope starting around 40 or so hrz [I modded mine a little] and both tracks have a nice strong mid bass line, I ran tests with my HE 4 to confirm as well, for sheer movement of air, sheer slam these tracks are decent, but again they kinda lack the tactility and powerful control, you ever listen to a thunder storm? When Thunder Drops you don't hear a whole lot... but you sure as HELL feel it! For me, good bass needs that control, that tactility. Any cheap headphone can throw a big sloppy bass wave, but it's very soft and it lacks clear tactility, it's a very "surface" bass, it hits the surface of your ears, face ect... but it doesn't DIG. A friend of mine listened to my modded D2k the other day, she's farmillar with bass heavy cans. Used to own a XB 500 her self, and what she liked about the D2k was she could feel the bass in her neck, and tonally the bass isn't overly forward, but it DIGS it dug into her face and her muscles, it was quick, tactile and it was powerful. Her XB 500 push a lot of air but when they lack that strong tactile edge of the D2k and HE 4,

 

the tracks are HEAVY with big soft bass, nothing that imo DIGS, I think I mentioned to you guyz I owned a XB 700 [heck I modded mine for even MORE sub bass actually] a ZUNE HD [with active EQ double amped] and a Fiio E11, I shoved as much bass as POSSIBLE into my XB 700, and after a year... it just wasn't doin it for me any more, I needed MORE. What I found, was I was missing that DIG that power, or rather a headphone that could properly control the bass, put some real tactility in it, my Dt 880 was great for that, it hit hard and it was quick, my HE 400 was even better, and the HE 4 better than the HE 400 was

 

So :D if you guys get the chance, do listen to some of the tighter cans, and if you find you still like that BIG PLUSH soft bass then enjoy it ^^

 

Still, the AudioPhile bass lounge is missing it's share of Tech Heads, and it's not to active any moar so q.q the EXTREME bass heads, need an EXTREME "audiophile" Bass Head Niche as well :3, 

post #349 of 8520
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post
 
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The moon with the rebel bass will be in range in 30 minutes

 

You may fire when ready........:popcorn:.......

 

 

That is ******* aaaaaaawesome yeah! Star Wars /Bass test track mash-up. I used it in 2003. Very old forgotten track. ******* LOVE it. 

post #350 of 8520
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

 

 

The moon with the rebel bass will be in range in 30 minutes

 

You may fire when ready........:popcorn:.......

 

 

That is ******* aaaaaaawesome yeah! Star Wars /Bass test track mash-up. I used it in 2003. Very old forgotten track. ******* LOVE it. 

I wish I could find a lossless verison of that track. It is pretty awesome my friend! 

post #351 of 8520
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post


I'm just going to throw this at you guyz but Both Whizs Track and this one are pretty sloppy in bass texture and in addition are pretty mid bass heavy, they might go as deep as 40 hrz maybe, my W1000x has a clear sub bass slope starting around 40 or so hrz and both tracks have a nice strong mid bass line, I ran tests with my HE 4 to confirm as well, for sheer movement of air, sheer slam these tracks are decent, but again they kinda lack the tactility and powerful control, you ever listen to a thunder storm? When Thunder Drops you don't hear a whole lot... but you sure as HELL feel it! For me, good bass needs that control, that tactility. Any cheap headphone can throw a big sloppy bass wave, but it's very soft and it lacks clear tactility, it's a very "surface" bass, it hits the surface of your ears, face ect... but it doesn't DIG. A friend of mine listened to my modded D2k the other day, she's farmillar with bass heavy cans. Used to own a XB 500 her self, and what she liked about the D2k was she could feel the bass in her neck, and tonally the bass isn't overly forward, but it DIGS it dug into her face and her muscles, it was quick, tactile and it was powerful. Her XB 500 push a lot of air but when they lack that strong tactile edge of the D2k and HE 4,

the tracks are HEAVY with big soft bass, nothing that imo DIGS, I think I mentioned to you guyz I owned a XB 700 [heck I modded mine for even MORE sub bass actually] a ZUNE HD [with active EQ double amped] and a Fiio E11, I shoved as much bass as POSSIBLE into my XB 700, and after a year... it just wasn't doin it for me any more, I needed MORE. What I found, was I was missing that DIG that power, or rather a headphone that could properly control the bass, put some real tactility in it, my Dt 880 was great for that, it hit hard and it was quick, my HE 400 was even better, and the HE 4 better than the HE 400 was

So biggrin.gif if you guys get the chance, do listen to some of the tighter cans, and if you find you still like that BIG PLUSH soft bass then enjoy it ^^

Still, the AudioPhile bass lounge is missing it's share of Tech Heads, and it's not to active any moar so q.q the EXTREME bass heads, need an EXTREME "audiophile" Bass Head Niche as well :3, 
yeah... Well, we had a thread like that for everyone, but it was closed sadly. Now, we have a few basshead clubs, but not a unifying thread... Kinda sad. I like tight bass. It works well for dubstep. The cushy soft bass is decent too, but I'm hoping the sz2k will be eq'able into having a bit tighter bass for the quick and subtle changes. Also, a good sub-bass presence is welcome, which it does have a good sub-bass presence as far as I can tell without actually listening to it.
post #352 of 8520
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


yeah... Well, we had a thread like that for everyone, but it was closed sadly. Now, we have a few basshead clubs, but not a unifying thread... Kinda sad. I like tight bass. It works well for dubstep. The cushy soft bass is decent too, but I'm hoping the sz2k will be eq'able into having a bit tighter bass for the quick and subtle changes. Also, a good sub-bass presence is welcome, which it does have a good sub-bass presence as far as I can tell without actually listening to it.

Well Fearless has been spending some time modding his SZ2 to get a tighter bass line and a little more sub bass presance 

post #353 of 8520
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post


I'm just going to throw this at you guyz but Both Whizs Track and this one are pretty sloppy in bass texture and in addition are pretty mid bass heavy, they might go as deep as 40 hrz maybe, my W1000x has a clear sub bass slope starting around 40 or so hrz and both tracks have a nice strong mid bass line, I ran tests with my HE 4 to confirm as well, for sheer movement of air, sheer slam these tracks are decent, but again they kinda lack the tactility and powerful control, you ever listen to a thunder storm? When Thunder Drops you don't hear a whole lot... but you sure as HELL feel it! For me, good bass needs that control, that tactility. Any cheap headphone can throw a big sloppy bass wave, but it's very soft and it lacks clear tactility, it's a very "surface" bass, it hits the surface of your ears, face ect... but it doesn't DIG. A friend of mine listened to my modded D2k the other day, she's farmillar with bass heavy cans. Used to own a XB 500 her self, and what she liked about the D2k was she could feel the bass in her neck, and tonally the bass isn't overly forward, but it DIGS it dug into her face and her muscles, it was quick, tactile and it was powerful. Her XB 500 push a lot of air but when they lack that strong tactile edge of the D2k and HE 4,

the tracks are HEAVY with big soft bass, nothing that imo DIGS, I think I mentioned to you guyz I owned a XB 700 [heck I modded mine for even MORE sub bass actually] a ZUNE HD [with active EQ double amped] and a Fiio E11, I shoved as much bass as POSSIBLE into my XB 700, and after a year... it just wasn't doin it for me any more, I needed MORE. What I found, was I was missing that DIG that power, or rather a headphone that could properly control the bass, put some real tactility in it, my Dt 880 was great for that, it hit hard and it was quick, my HE 400 was even better, and the HE 4 better than the HE 400 was

So biggrin.gif if you guys get the chance, do listen to some of the tighter cans, and if you find you still like that BIG PLUSH soft bass then enjoy it ^^

Still, the AudioPhile bass lounge is missing it's share of Tech Heads, and it's not to active any moar so q.q the EXTREME bass heads, need an EXTREME "audiophile" Bass Head Niche as well :3, 

Ok, here's the deal

I'm interested in this digging bass

So you post your best track that digs hard as hell

And you say I need a fast set of cans to keep up?

Ok - go on my profile and you tell me which ones best for the track you advise

And I'll do a diggin bass Vs big soft bass

What'd U think bro?
post #354 of 8520
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

Are the SZ1000's the same dual driver design?

 

I believe the 2000 has this behind the driver and the 1000 does not

 

 

And the chamber designed to reduce loss of energy (dampen vibe/resonance of plastic interfering with sub signal before hitting your ear) is fullbrass shielding on the 2000 (right) and just 4 tabs on the 1000)

 

Having listened to them side by side the 1000 are hammers but the sheer force of the hit is more solid under amp with the Brass . Very clever little rabbits over at JVC.

Not sure why they even built the 1000?

 

Yes the 1000 has the same dual drivers

post #355 of 8520
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


Ok, here's the deal

I'm interested in this digging bass

So you post your best track that digs hard as hell

And you say I need a fast set of cans to keep up?

Ok - go on my profile and you tell me which ones best for the track you advise

And I'll do a diggin bass Vs big soft bass

What'd U think bro?

 

THIS

 

 

 

is what makes this thread different.

Empirical data is God here.

 

What track, what settings what cans....goal is...?

 

Please let him know. I think his Sig DJ would qualify as fast

 

If "A" should be replaced with "B"....lets see what "B" is.

post #356 of 8520
Quote:
Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


Ok, here's the deal

I'm interested in this digging bass

So you post your best track that digs hard as hell

And you say I need a fast set of cans to keep up?

Ok - go on my profile and you tell me which ones best for the track you advise

And I'll do a diggin bass Vs big soft bass

What'd U think bro?

Ahh well my friend personal taste comes into play, I'm stilling trying to wrap my head around how you own the HE 6, TH 900 and still listen to the SV2k? Must be personal taste :3

 

 

One of my favorites to demo my bass heavy cans,  

 

And the Liquid Stranger Track for me, really digs, it's quick, powerful and I can feel it diggin into my skin every time the beat hits, which is pretty often, so I find it very enjoyable 

 

for me I like how a wobble feels on a proper can, like teh HE 4 or a modded D2k, the tactile transition in the bass line 

 

 

This one is nice as well, wish I could give em a listen on your HE 6 q.q 

post #357 of 8520
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

 

THIS

 

 

 

is what makes this thread different.

Empirical data is God here.

 

What track, what settings what cans....goal is...?

 

Please let him know. I think his Sig DJ would qualify as fast

 

If "A" should be replaced with "B"....lets see what "B" is.

the SIg DJ, nah man let him use his HE 6, Planars have a hell of a bass tactility. My D2k as great as it is, doesn't have the speed or aggressive attack in the bass as the HE 4 does. 

 

ANd let this be the start of the "EXTREME Bass Head wars" lol, US Wobble Wackos vs you BIG BASS Bangahs! [trying to have fun with this] 


Edited by Mshenay - 6/7/14 at 8:19pm
post #358 of 8520
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

the SIg DJ, nah man let him use his HE 6, Planars have a hell of a bass tactility. My D2k as great as it is, doesn't have the speed or aggressive attack in the bass as the HE 4 does. 

 

ANd let this be the start of the "EXTREME Bass Head wars" lol, US Wobble Wackos vs you BIG BASS Bangahs! [trying to have fun with this] 

 

But how does the Sig DJ or our bass cans compare to this:

 

 

HBB will want one of these!  :D

post #359 of 8520
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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

But how does the Sig DJ or our bass cans compare to this:

 

 

HBB will want one of these!  :D

See I want one of those... WE NEED MUSIC WITH REAL CANNON shots, I mean REAL life has the BIGGEST and most BADDEST bass drops ever, what makes a cannon fearsome? It's that big freaking sound wave that fires all around it self when you fire it, do you hear it? No you feel it, and it DIGS into your SOUL 

 

I'd love to make a dub step tune with some real HQ recordings of natures nastiest drops, put a 60 hrz Wobble a top of some 5-15 hrz kicks :3 

 

truthfully I need a decent Sub, I used to listen to my DnB on a little 12" [after 2 years I blew it out] My HE 4 does a nice job at captureing some of the tactility that lil Sub had, but I do miss it! And yes I'd like one of those! Scare teh hell out of my neighbors at 12 am ;3

post #360 of 8520
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post




I believe the 2000 has this behind the driver and the 1000 does not




And the chamber designed to reduce loss of energy (dampen vibe/resonance of plastic interfering with sub signal before hitting your ear) is fullbrass shielding on the 2000 (right) and just 4 tabs on the 1000)

Having listened to them side by side the 1000 are hammers but the sheer force of the hit is more solid under amp with the Brass . Very clever little rabbits over at JVC.
Not sure why they even built the 1000?

Yes the 1000 has the same dual drivers



Edited by cb3723 - 6/7/14 at 8:35pm
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