The Hardest hitting Headphones are.. ( "The EXTREME BASS Club")
Jul 4, 2014 at 2:19 AM Post #977 of 12,970
100% Honest...they both un nerved me.....kinda  ....what tha....???:eek:   Get off the video your scaring folks!! ...it's headphones....smile
Stoner






aryan






Scary director of whatever aryan dude has up his sleeves.











I would absolutely trust Mr Stoned out of his mind guy before the other 2.





Let me say congrats on the 700mk2 vid....that plus the Sones


I can see you walking to the furthest corner of the room mumbling to yourself....reaching the opposite side of the room, turning around and screaming....screaming at headphones:


I own YOU!!...YOU do not own me!!!!:D


LoL :D

Sounds like the back story to a creepypasta

If you're unfamiliar with creepypasta - freaky stories that are unnerving - just enter creepypasta into YouTube search and you get the likes of the below :eek:


[VIDEO]http://youtu.be/MEwbfnCpKA4[/VIDEO]​
 
Jul 4, 2014 at 6:17 AM Post #978 of 12,970
Ultrasone Pro 900 and M-Audio Q40
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1. They are not cannons.
  2. They never were
  3. They contain 40mm drivers
  4. They have been called "face melters" "head smashers"  and a bucha stuff that are flat out wrong
  5. Nobody has taken a video...good idea unless it's a person not emotionally attached to better than average bass
 
 
 
 
 
R.I.P​
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Signed,
Your's truly
 A Real Cannon
 

 
Jul 4, 2014 at 8:08 AM Post #979 of 12,970
 
Ultrasone Pro 900 and M-Audio Q40
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  1. They are not cannons.
  2. They never were
  3. They contain 40mm drivers
  4. They have been called "face melters" "head smashers"  and a bucha stuff that are flat out wrong
  5. Nobody has taken a video...good idea unless it's a person not emotionally attached to better than average bass
 
 
 
 
 
R.I.P​
 ​
 ​
Signed,
Your's truly
 A Real Cannon
 


Hahahaha, do you call that a bass cannon?!
 
Please, step aside. The master is coming in.
 
 

 
The bass is so loud, and the paper is shaking so hard, you can't even see it! It sounds like distortion because the whole earth around it couldn't hold its epicness.
 
^ I'm obviously kidding. The SZ2000 is still king.
 
Jul 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM Post #980 of 12,970
http://www.head-fi.org/t/552034/final-thoughts-sony-mdr-xb1000-vs-ultrasone-pro-900-who-is-the-bass-king-pictures


This review was made before SZ2000 , SZ1000 and 77, 55 JVC cans release :)
 
Jul 4, 2014 at 10:58 AM Post #981 of 12,970
http://www.head-fi.org/t/552034/final-thoughts-sony-mdr-xb1000-vs-ultrasone-pro-900-who-is-the-bass-king-pictures


This review was made before SZ2000 , SZ1000 and 77, 55 JVC cans release
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after owning the pro 900 I don't know how the comparison can even be made lol.  if my xb700's literally blow them out of the water I can only imagine the xb1000's would do much more with that big 70mm driver :)
 
Jul 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM Post #982 of 12,970
 Some of you have asked me to compare these two bass heavy headphones to see which is KING. 

 
There is a 30mm difference between the 2.
 
The folks that asked......I think Hi fi guy was being kind to them. His car /subs/trunk analogy was spot on since the bass in a closed trunk is resonance and a ported sub is moving/changing air pressure in your vehicle.
 

 
 
A sealed sub just resonates in the trunk and gives a higher hit. The 40mm "tuned" drivers offer a higher bass hit and it is a bit impactful but it's not gonna vibrate your head like a larger driver that hits the lower note better..."impact" is not really close unless edge of distortion is your thing.
 
I do not think he nailed that pro 900 bass hit description so perfectly on purpose.....however he did review/unbox some JVC XX and was fair. He's about as reasonable as any pro reviewer out there and he was being very very kind to the Pro 900 crowd which was very big in 2011 it seems.
 
I thought the 900 hit good on the "rah" hit but that's not as sub-bass track or hit.
 
The xb1000 could practically give birth to a 40mm driver for God sake
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Jul 4, 2014 at 11:14 AM Post #983 of 12,970
I will admit that the Pro 900 had some pretty decent mid bass and mid bass punch but to compare the two is like comparing apples and oranges IMO. With that being said it was nice of him to appease the Pro 900 crowd at that time.   
 
I have been looking for that good all a rounder like I've mentioned before and I may give the Denon ah-d2000 a try.  I asked this in another thread but Ill ask here too, other than prestigious purposes do you guys think its actually worth the extra 300 to 400 dollars for the denon ah-d5000 over the d2000 if indeed sub bass is relatively the same, while being pushed through an amp and 9 band eq for suttle changes?
 
sorry im not trying to thread jack here and deviate from crazy bass cans but bass is something i am really wanting along with good quality throughout the entire frequency range.  thanks for all your help :)
 
Jul 4, 2014 at 12:22 PM Post #984 of 12,970
So the M-Audio Q40?

These are dirt cheap in the UK - like cheeseburger cheap - I've ordered a pair just to hear for myself what the cult of Q40 is all about - needless to say - they will be put under the bass/paper test :veryevil:

 
Jul 5, 2014 at 4:39 AM Post #987 of 12,970
I take it you no longer own those cans
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I took that pic and the little wire on the headband which I was advised to be careful with...made me a tad un nerved.
 
Where's Waldo?
 

 
 
There he is!!
 

 
 
O.K., getting uncomfortable.....not necessary....
 

 
 
 
 
O.K., c'mon now...what???
 

 
This is an accident waiting to happen.  Anyway the driver failed in minutes leaving me with my worst memory to date.
They look cool. Have a nice response curve without eq but Q.C. is atrocious. The pad is covered with a garbage bag like material. Fake leather is one thing....plastic bagging is another.
I was told it was unfortunate and uncommon that the driver came loose/ dissolved. 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/636127/m-audio-q40-loose-drivers-rattling
 
 
I shoulda researched.....it's all on me.
I lived....I learned.
 
Looking forward to the bass test
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Jul 5, 2014 at 6:03 AM Post #988 of 12,970
I took that pic and the little wire on the headband which I was advised to be careful with...made me a tad un nerved.

Where's Waldo?





There he is!!





O.K., getting uncomfortable.....not necessary....

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O.K., c'mon now...what???

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This is an accident waiting to happen.  Anyway the driver failed in minutes leaving me with my worst memory to date.
They look cool. Have a nice response curve without eq but Q.C. is atrocious. The pad is covered with a garbage bag like material. Fake leather is one thing....plastic bagging is another.
I was told it was unfortunate and uncommon that the driver came loose/ dissolved. 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/636127/m-audio-q40-loose-drivers-rattling


I shoulda researched.....it's all on me.
I lived....I learned.

Looking forward to the bass test:L3000:

Schiit, there's cheap cans which equate to good solid value - think Vibe BD, Numark Electrowave (about to be bass/paper tested), but I've never had cheap cost = danger, fall apart before!

They may not survive the test?

We'll see, cult of Q40 members may need to look away when that video lands :confused_face:

On the other hand - the cup material and exposed wires do remind me of one can I have - SONY MDR-7506 - which us a great can, which I think hasn't changed since it's release in the 1980's I think. But the 7506 isn't regarded as basshead material.

I'll reserve my judgements until the Q40 arrive, guess like all cans and peoples experiences, expectations - they all differ :) (though exposed cable in Q40 pic does look nasty)



 
Jul 5, 2014 at 6:16 AM Post #989 of 12,970
  I will admit that the Pro 900 had some pretty decent mid bass and mid bass punch but to compare the two is like comparing apples and oranges IMO. With that being said it was nice of him to appease the Pro 900 crowd at that time.   
 
I have been looking for that good all a rounder like I've mentioned before and I may give the Denon ah-d2000 a try.  I asked this in another thread but Ill ask here too, other than prestigious purposes do you guys think its actually worth the extra 300 to 400 dollars for the denon ah-d5000 over the d2000 if indeed sub bass is relatively the same, while being pushed through an amp and 9 band eq for suttle changes?
 
sorry im not trying to thread jack here and deviate from crazy bass cans but bass is something i am really wanting along with good quality throughout the entire frequency range.  thanks for all your help :)

 
Hey, sorry for the late reply.
 
This thread probably isn't the best for that particular question. I'd prefer this thread to stay the course that got it moved into the Headphone section in the first place as there were none previous...not with rankings and displays and absolutely bess-centric
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That said,
I am an owner of several headphones and have heard both cans mentioned on several occasions.
One of them is a "woodie"
 
They get their own listening stations sometimes

 
This is a  .....expensive section?? (loved the T1)
 

 
These are the "Metals"
 

 
 
 
The woodie of the 2 you mentioned was not what I expected. I am clearly clearly not an audiophile as these ..
 

 
Became not my dream cans anymore. And all the wood backed cans had a sound that is different when it comes to bass.
 
That (pic below) is just epic awesome.
 
 

 
 
My car audio sub-woofer ported enclosures are wood. (2) 15" subs in two different cars in 2 wooden enclosures. I know wood reflected bass and I love it. In a headphone where the driver is not dedicated? I dunno? My guess is the delay in the signal reflection and it's relation to mids and highs is just a tad different.
 
   Echo and Reverberation
When a wave reaches the boundary, a portion of the wave undergoes reflection and a portion of the wave undergoes transmission across the boundary. Reflection of sound waves off of surfaces can lead to either an echo or a reverberation.The human brain keeps a sound in memory for up to 0.1 seconds. If a reflected sound wave reaches the ear within 0.1 seconds of the initial sound, then it seems that the sound is prolonged. The reception of multiple reflections within 0.1 seconds of each other causes reverberations. 

Reflection of sound waves also lead to echoes. Echoes are different than reverberations. Echoes occur when a reflected sound wave reaches the ear more than 0.1 seconds after the original sound wave was heard. In this case, the arrival of the second sound wave will be perceived as a second sound rather than the prolonging of the first sound. There will be an echo instead of a reverberation.

 
 
I'll chalk it up to an echo.
One that doesn't show itself in car audio as the drivers are separated by many feet from the subs.  When the sub enclosure is on your ear (wood) and the mids and highs are all coming from the same diaphragm....it seems different. I can hear it.
 
 
I am a JVC fanboy because they give you win more than lose by a wide margin. I'd take the DX1000 or 700 over the cans you mentioned as I just am more a fan of the sound. Only time wood is an issue is at extreme amp so I imagine it would never be an issue for you.
 
The 2 cans you mentioned ( I won't mention them (the cans you mentioned) because I never paid my money and owned them....I kick Q40 in the teeth because I did pay my money and I have a right to give an opinion and name them.
 
The 2 you mentioned use identical drivers/magnets. Identical. Is it worth the cost for a better cable and other diff's?  If you have a lot of money and like spending it to feel good I'd take the more expensive one and know the placebo effect is gonna increase my sound quality. If money is an object...I'd not spend 200-350 diff for the housing.
 
I would listen to them if at all possible. I was unable to hear the clear difference with jazz or my bass tracks. I am a basshead though....so....a grain of salt...with my opinion
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