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Well lets see here.... Actual volumes of a drum? How far away??? Like... If you stick your ear right next to it lol?
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Well lets see here.... Actual volumes of a drum? How far away??? Like... If you stick your ear right next to it lol?

 

LOL thanks for pointing this out, the 125dB specified rating went right through my mental filters because that sounded about right standing next to a live rock band. Of course it depends on how one plays. According to this bass drum recording tutorial, a drum a meter away usually hits >120dB and >140dB with the mic a few cm away lol. Industry standard kick drum mics by Shure and AKG have max SPL handling no less than 150dB, since they're placed right next to it d: Anyway, screw these obsolete notions of "realism," of "live" performances. I want the real, live sound of a car subwoofer hitting 150dB at 25Hz peak freq. through my headphones.

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Sorry for derailing the thread.

 

Now let's go back to something SUPER IMPORTANT that just happened: @gelocks, @cb3723, and @Hawaiibadboy now have the JVC HA-SZ1000. (Adding @SDBiotek makes four SZ1000 pioneers.) I mean, seriously, for so long everyone (except me lol) had been hard at work trying to find a worthy contender to the SZ2000, and nobody wanted to bother with its much cheaper version that was most likely inferior anyway. But it turns out the SZ1000 is nearly equivalent to the SZ2000, for only 2/3 the price of the latter. And apparently it has some perks over the 2K such as nicer stock FR and nicer earpads:

 

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O.K.

It's not just me.

 

I was kinda floored after the uncomfortable almost perfect 2000 (perfect for bassheads and Live club enthusiasts)...the 1000 seem to be a better execution of Dual driver/Kelton-sub theory. They sound really nice. I'm quite pleased.

 

The sz1000 will come out to fight if challenged but otherwise they stay babied.

 

The big brother will square away any mean cans wanting to pick on the little 1000's

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you get the dancing girls? ...international shipping....hope they made it through inspection:D

 

 

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What can I say, these are definitely bass monsters just like their SZ2000 brother. That Beats track... damn, it re-arranged my face and I think I'm still cross-eyed...

Regarding overall sound sig, good news is that they DO sound warm overall but a bit more "tamed" than the SZ2000 (as I remember them). Vocals are less in your face as well. So I can say that up to this point, I prefer these more than the SZ2000 BUT... lack of clarity still kills me!!! 

 

These were a few of my impressions in my home set-up for the SZ2000 a year ago:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/661129/jvc-ha-sz2000-1000-appreciation-thread/450#post_9520851

 

(this above was me comparing them to my basshead faves Ultrasone Sig DJs mostly)

 

Now, the SZ1000 seem to do a BIT better with that regard but I'd definitely like them to be cleaner.

And this is actually not obvious on bassy tracks or genres like Reggaeton, Hip-hop, etc. but load up some metalcore or straight up rock and I definitely start missing the "bite", the guitar "crunch", etc. Which is kind of weird since the headphone I use the most (MrSpeakers Alpha Dogs) are warm as well but they definitely have clearer mids specifically.

 

Anyway, for a basshead (true basshead) these are definitely a great pick.

 

Personally I would still pick Monster N-Pulse headphones (similar price range?!) over these IF you are not looking for an "Extreme" experience.

 

 

Damn this track! I actually have a headache now....

 

 

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Oh man, I'm waiting for the JVC bass party pimp girls delivery for sure tongue_smile.gif must be for VIP owners of 2&1K's I'd say - lol biggrin.gif

I spent a little time earlier today with the SZ1000's, plugged directly into iPad with bass boost setting EQ but no external Fiio amp whatsoever, listening to Cream Ibiza Anthems (not particularly deep bass genre unlike hip-hop) and these deliver a silky smooth very high quality sound way above their price point, but if you want to dig deeper into more bass with select bass EQing, then as has been shown here by you - there's a mountain of it just awaiting on standby.

Yes, these are in the top two of extreme bass cans available right now or ever before, but they are (and the SZ2000) far from a one trick pony - essential basshead can? I'd say any self respecting basshead should at least own this can or the SZ2000 without any reservation, but I also think that between the 2&1K, the 1K is also suited for people who aren't necessarily a basshead, but want a fun, plenty at the bottom end with acres in reserve,sonic signature, might not necessarily be looking to bass EQ as hard as the premise of your thread, not have the discomfort issues and earpad swapping to be concerned about as with the 2k and get a substantially well built and engineered can that is coming in at an amazingly low cost for what is delivers.

The SZ1000 is a major step up from the HA-MR77X in sound and build, not that I'm knocking the 77 - one of the best value cans available - period.

For basshead terrorists like you - get both or just the SZ2000 biggrin.gif

But really between the two of them - there's really no losers here smily_headphones1.gif

You were clearly guided to the SZ2000's by a higher bass source, to become the ambassador of bass you have become, and your beginnings into the power of the dark side of the bass, a Sith in subterranean sonics - lol biggrin.gif

I wonder if JVC are working on a SZ3000 model? cool.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Personally, I'm trying to get a backup pair to my SZ2000 ASAP. As much as I am super excited to finally learn about the more affordable SZ1000, for the experience the SZ2000 has given me, I'm willing to pay more than $260 for what it's worth to me. And it's not like I have to choose between the two--I can always get both!


Edited by PocketSmiley - 6/25/14 at 11:59am
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That kinda jumped out at me too.  Good detail through the veil:blink:

O.K.

 

I return to now...to not looking at charts. (But I'm glad they are up!!!...cool:cool:)

 

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there are cans that still retain detail through a thick veil lol. It jumped out at me too... But in a good way. Like, WOW! I get some of the detail even with the bass?? Score! Just remember that the tester for goldenears has heard 100+ headphones. Flagships and budget cans alike. I usually trust them. The scale they use is usually pretty accurate.

 

Having a warm-ish veil doesn't necessarily means that details won't come through! Perfect examples of this are MrSpeakers Mad Dogs and Alpha Dogs as well as Sennheiser's own HD600/HD650. That "veil" that you guys are mentioning and that goldenears marked in their page is basically what I mean with "warm-ish".

 

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Sorry for derailing the thread.

 

Now let's go back to something SUPER IMPORTANT that just happened: @gelocks, @cb3723, and @Hawaiibadboy now have the JVC HA-SZ1000. (Adding @SDBiotek makes four SZ1000 pioneers.) I mean, seriously, for so long everyone (except me lol) had been hard at work trying to find a worthy contender to the SZ2000, and nobody wanted to bother with its much cheaper version that was most likely inferior anyway. But it turns out the SZ1000 is nearly equivalent to the SZ2000, for only 2/3 the price of the latter. And apparently it has some perks over the 2K such as nicer stock FR and nicer earpads:

 

Personally, I'm trying to get a backup pair to my SZ2000 ASAP. As much as I am super excited to finally learn about the more affordable SZ1000, for the experience the SZ2000 has given me, I'm willing to pay more than $260 for what it's worth to me. And it's not like I have to choose between the two--I can always get both!

 

That is definitely true.

Right now I'm listening to them at work and I can say that I definitely would take these over their SZ2000 brother. ;)

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Well, after much consideration, I have decided to throw in the towel for the ownership of the sz2000.  I did however, use the buying guide on page 50 and jumped on a really good price for some ATH-PROmk2's.  I will eventually amp these, and hope the bass will work for me. 

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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

 

Having a warm-ish veil doesn't necessarily means that details won't come through! Perfect examples of this are MrSpeakers Mad Dogs and Alpha Dogs as well as Sennheiser's own HD600/HD650. That "veil" that you guys are mentioning and that goldenears marked in their page is basically what I mean with "warm-ish".

 

 

That is definitely true.

Right now I'm listening to them at work and I can say that I definitely would take these over their SZ2000 brother. ;)

 I think the brass cylinder just overwhelms the sig. For a straight-up basshead that's fine. (for the guys  PM'ing you need a good amp like the e12 and must raise the 30Hz+ range for head bump. Not optional...you need that)

Yeah so, the sz1000 seem more approachable.@gelocks , I respect your opinion...but a few minimal eq tweaks and this......sounds so damn good:D

 

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@s5300

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 Alright, thanks a lot. That's one of the headsets I had in mind. Do you think the portable would suffice until I can get a real desktop amp, or should I just wait until I have some real money to spend? I have a $2000 Yamaha amp from the 80's, but I think I would need an external DAC from my comp to run it. I haven't worried about it much because I have limited use of it seeing as its hooked up to a $10,000 speaker system right now, but I probably should learn about it eventually. It's all RCA hookups in the back with a 1/4 out. But now I'm just blabbering on, I'll just go with the IEM's for now as I need them for class.

 

I shared this because you have a better chance at a good answer via the whole group (buncha smart folks in here;))

 

To everyone who is PM'ing me...I appreciate the trust and value put in my opinion but the folks like @cb3723 @PocketSmiley @gelocks  and others have so much knowledge. And balance of opinion is higher quality than one man's opinion.

Ya'll not bothering me at all I just think you'd get a better overall view and  better advice in some cases than I could give.

 

If you copy me you get the head kick.

There are other ways. Other folks know those ways.

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Friend of mine has the Razer Tiamat 2.2's, crazy bass with an E11. I'll ask him to take a video of it :)

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Friend of mine has the Razer Tiamat 2.2's, crazy bass with an E11. I'll ask him to take a video of it :)

 

Some gaming headsets got mad potential...if anyone knows folks with gaming beasts send em here for tests:beerchug:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thread Starter 

No special sauce..

 

 

 

I got good at doing and uploading vids in like 5 minutes...sometimes that's bad:p

 

I wanted to show my bass vid settings are my listening settings. I'm not manipulating the SZ sig at all beyond 100Hz.

I thought I was tweaker cuz I am one in Car Audio but I'm letting Jeteffects do this. 5 band eq is flat.

 

The bass vids are not some juiced up bass settings......well they are but it's my normal listening settings.

 

This is 20 minutes max listening level but I only listen to music at about 3 song bursts anyway...habit from car audio.

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Friend of mine has the Razer Tiamat 2.2's, crazy bass with an E11. I'll ask him to take a video of it smily_headphones1.gif
lets see if anyone here has some ha-m55x's to test since mine broke. I wanna see one of Hawaii's battles of 55's vs razer krakens... I would make a video if i still had a pair.
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I'd love to see the HA-MR55's perform too.  I have a set in the box, sitting here teasing me, and if I open the box, they're mine, but I can still return them.  I'd love a paper test of them, to see what they can do.

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I'd love to see the HA-MR55's perform too.  I have a set in the box, sitting here teasing me, and if I open the box, they're mine, but I can still return them.  I'd love a paper test of them, to see what they can do.
I can say they hit fairly hard from extensive experience with them... The arm just broke when I took them apart. They are really bassy. Mainly sub and mid bass. Amp them, and you'll get a massage. Not 77x or SZ1/2K levels of bass, but a lot for a budget basshead can. Pretty fun headphones imo.
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I can say they hit fairly hard from extensive experience with them... The arm just broke when I took them apart. They are really bassy. Mainly sub and mid bass. Amp them, and you'll get a massage. Not 77x or SZ1/2K levels of bass, but a lot for a budget basshead can. Pretty fun headphones imo.


Would a Fiio E11 and an iPod be enough to drive them to "fun" levels?

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if you connect them with the right cables yes you can. but i like them more on my desktop tho

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