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Originally Posted by dcfac73 View Post


hmmmm, Im not convinced.

post #647 of 2907
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Originally Posted by hummel View Post

next time someone needs a skin transplant they can just as well take paper then. if you would take a piece of leather and placed that on there and you would compare that too human skin ok .. but paper, give me a break


Leather?





Like - Leatherface?



WTF's going on around here?
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Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 6/18/14 at 10:17am
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leatherface look alot more human than paperface :p

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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


Leather?





Like - Leatherface?



WTF's going on around here?

 

 

Oh my god I laughed so ******* hard.

 

Did the E.U. just collapse or something? What's with the thread bombers today? My God...that 2nd gif is me for the past 2 ******* hours.

post #651 of 2907
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Originally Posted by dcfac73 View Post
 

10x or 10000x better than response graphs and words?

 

Well, I've been "in the game" long enough to know that "graphs" don't tell the whole story, which is why I've had (and still have) way too many headphones than I need, most with similar frequency response and all of them SOUNDING DIFFERENT! For example:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDR1R.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/YamahaPro500.pdf

 

Heck, even their 30Hz response is similar! And yet, to me they sounded completely different with the Yamaha obliterating the MDR-1Rs into oblivion whether we are talking about bass response or overall enjoyment!!

 

 

This thread is for best bass headphones with regards to SLAM and RESPONSE. This is not a thread for "audiophile bass" (but thread does exist and although we also look for good slam and response there, we don't determine nor fixate on which are the bass monsters! That's what HBB is doing here!). The video test is only trying to show how these hard-hitters can actually produce enough "air" to move a piece of paper which would be the equivalent of headphones producing enough air to affect how you feel when they are being used over your ears. If you haven't experienced that feeling, then that's probably why you don't think that the videos are useful.

 

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Originally Posted by dcfac73 View Post
 


hmmmm, Im not convinced.

 

This thread doesn't exist to convince anyone... each one will be the judge once headphones are on their head! BUT, it might help anyone looking for bass monsters with enough power to give you a headache and make you really FEEL bass impact/slam... The best way to convince yourself is to get one of these hard-hitters, and use them... then report back on your experience! :p

post #652 of 2907
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

Well, I've been "in the game" long enough to know that "graphs" don't tell the whole story, which is why I've had (and still have) way too many headphones than I need, most with similar frequency response and all of them SOUNDING DIFFERENT! For example:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDR1R.pdf

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/YamahaPro500.pdf

 

Heck, even their 30Hz response is similar! And yet, to me they sounded completely different with the Yamaha obliterating the MDR-1Rs into oblivion whether we are talking about bass response or overall enjoyment!!

 

 

This thread is for best bass headphones with regards to SLAM and RESPONSE. This is not a thread for "audiophile bass" (but thread does exist and although we also look for good slam and response there, we don't determine nor fixate on which are the bass monsters! That's what HBB is doing here!). The video test is only trying to show how these hard-hitters can actually produce enough "air" to move a piece of paper which would be the equivalent of headphones producing enough air to affect how you feel when they are being used over your ears. If you haven't experienced that feeling, then that's probably why you don't think that the videos are useful.

 

 

This thread doesn't exist to convince anyone... each one will be the judge once headphones are on their head! BUT, it might help anyone looking for bass monsters with enough power to give you a headache and make you really FEEL bass impact/slam... The best way to convince yourself is to get one of these hard-hitters, and use them... then report back on your experience! :p


all this is true, but I was talking in reference to testing bass response by observing how headphones make sheets of paper bend.

post #653 of 2907
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

Well, I've been "in the game" long enough to know that "graphs" don't tell the whole story, which is why I've had (and still have) way too many headphones than I need, most with similar frequency response and all of them SOUNDING DIFFERENT! For example:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDR1R.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/YamahaPro500.pdf

Heck, even their 30Hz response is similar! And yet, to me they sounded completely different with the Yamaha obliterating the MDR-1Rs into oblivion whether we are talking about bass response or overall enjoyment!!


This thread is for best bass headphones with regards to SLAM and RESPONSE. This is not a thread for "audiophile bass" (but thread does exist and although we also look for good slam and response there, we don't determine nor fixate on which are the bass monsters! That's what HBB is doing here!). The video test is only trying to show how these hard-hitters can actually produce enough "air" to move a piece of paper which would be the equivalent of headphones producing enough air to affect how you feel when they are being used over your ears. If you haven't experienced that feeling, then that's probably why you don't think that the videos are useful.


This thread doesn't exist to convince anyone... each one will be the judge once headphones are on their head! BUT, it might help anyone looking for bass monsters with enough power to give you a headache and make you really FEEL bass impact/slam... The best way to convince yourself is to get one of these hard-hitters, and use them... then report back on your experience! tongue.gif




Awesome biggrin.gif
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O.K.

Trying to get back on topic....

 

The Beats track may be the next one used to test bass impact/response

 

Testing part will start at the 1:24 mark until end of track

 

 

 

post #655 of 2907
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

 Don't be sorry.
The guy who tested both of them owns..both of them and took those videos.

Your comment is why we have these videos. 


YOU (talk big...use off the chart terms)
@cb3723
  (owns both cans, took vids of both cans, made an opinion based on the exact same track being played by both cans)



"Jaw shattering bass..."  <<<<<</b> What is that??


.

..like this??confused.gif






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.like this??confused.gif



"Jaw shattering bass..." 

LOL

Your cans don't do bass like in the vids and my jaw is fine....not broke...hell...not even a bruise.




42 pages and 620 posts till I got my 1st troll....got cha bru!! You on the thread now...jaw shattering?? That's some stuff right there.


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THIS SPOT RESERVED  for jaw shattering 700mk2 video









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. We make these vids just for folks like you who say a lot and show nothing...zero....talk talk talk.



I'm a basshead bru....please translate....how many dB at what Hz??
no need for the abuse you must be new to head for I was one of the first on head fi with the vibe black death headphones,and I have heard over 500 headphones in my time I collect mostly bass head headphones, and the pro700 mk2 have better impact than the vibes do I was telling you my opinion but seems you only care of your own opinion I was also one of the first with the sz1000 on this site so it's nothing new for me have a good day
post #656 of 2907
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Originally Posted by hummel View Post
 

next time someone needs a skin transplant they can just as well take paper then. if you would take a piece of leather and placed that on there and you would compare that too human skin ok .. but paper, give me a break

 

 

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Originally Posted by dcfac73 View Post
 


all this is true, but I was talking in reference to testing bass response by observing how headphones make sheets of paper bend.

 

 

 

Hey guys, this is my personal take on the matter as someone who contributed a paper test video for the JVC HA-MR77X. I was kindly asked by Hawaii to upload a video for the MR77X almost two months ago (kindly, because he knew I only had the SZ2000 and the 77X to test), but, aside from the fact that the semester was ending at the time and moving out of the dorm is a serious chore, I was also hesitant to do just a paper test. I wanted to use an SPL meter together with the paper test, but couldn't decide whether I want to spend my $50 on an SPL meter or a measurement mic (I don't want to spend $100 for both). I uploaded the video anyway almost two months later, without SPL measurements, after Hawaii took it to himself to paper test the MR77X.

 

Despite my reluctance on doing a simple paper test, I acknowledge some of its merits. First, it was extremely cool to look at (my first impression when I saw Hawaii's first paper test video LOL)--as I prefaced on the first page of this thread, this is the car audio SPL competition equivalent in headphones, and such occasions are not without a spectacle such as hair tricks or windshield breaking. Second, paper _seems_ to be a decent approximation (0.3048 mm) of the thin epidermis of and around your ears (0.12 mm average facial epidermis) connected to general sensory receptors. I don't know about the exact resonant frequency of the materials that make up both paper (mostly cellulose) and skin (many keratin), but the paper test does demonstrate--as a strict approximation--how strong the vibration feels and how far it extends on the skin of and around the ear . There is an undeniable objective value to a visible extension of driver excursion--for example, you can't do a hair trick with weak subwoofers--but there is an equally unreliable assessment of exact SPL levels (for example, I couldn't get the SZ to flap stronger than the 77X even though the SZ can drive 15-200Hz approximately +15dB louder). This thread's main objective is to find the pair of headphones that can reproduce low frequencies to normal loud levels, a straightforward need that many hi-fi rated pairs fail to deliver. Stock frequency response measurements take the backseat as driving low frequencies to rock concert loud requires heavy EQing. For analog/digital signal processing enthusiasts like me, EQ is demonstrably capable of achieving similar head-related transfer functions to that of different headphones--even what audiophile purists call "soundstage" can be simulated with binaural sound localization. The only limiting factor is the maximum magnitude of the frequency before distortion. And this is why this thread exists.

post #657 of 2907
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no need for the abuse you must be new to head for I was one of the first on head fi with the vibe black death headphones,and I have heard over 500 headphones in my time I collect mostly bass head headphones, and the pro700 mk2 have better impact than the vibes do I was telling you my opinion but seems you only care of your own opinion I was also one of the first with the sz1000 on this site so it's nothing new for me have a good day

With all due respect, you appear to have a very high opinion of yourself - first of this - first of that.

 

My opinions are based on cans I own right here, right now, and what I put up and shut up on test video for all to see.

 

Old expressions come to mind:-

 

"talk is cheap"

 

"talk the talk, walk the walk"

 

"action speaks louder than words"

 

Go check my credentials if you so wish, here's my card: http://www.head-fi.org/g/a/874680/my-headphones/

 

And a very good day to you sir...

post #658 of 2907
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Originally Posted by ati832 View Post


no need for the abuse you must be new to head for I was one of the first on head fi with the vibe black death headphones,and I have heard over 500 headphones in my time I collect mostly bass head headphones, and the pro700 mk2 have better impact than the vibes do I was telling you my opinion but seems you only care of your own opinion I was also one of the first with the sz1000 on this site so it's nothing new for me have a good day

 

I think that one very important thing to ask is, where you EQ'ing and pushing the most out of all of the headphones you tried? (i.e. did you used the same settings and bass boost?).

 

I ask because from my experience, yeah the SZ2000 were "bassy" but didn't turned into Bass Monsters unless amplified and EQ'ed! So maybe, straight from an iPod the Pro700 MK2 might have more impact and slam but once EQ'ed then the JVCs kick their butt?!?

 

(not sure, just a possibility before every one starts taking out their di**s and start measuring your junk...)

post #659 of 2907
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

I think that one very important thing to ask is, where you EQ'ing and pushing the most out of all of the headphones you tried? (i.e. did you used the same settings and bass boost?).

 

I ask because from my experience, yeah the SZ2000 were "bassy" but didn't turned into Bass Monsters unless amplified and EQ'ed! So maybe, straight from an iPod the Pro700 MK2 might have more impact and slam but once EQ'ed then the JVCs kick their butt?!?

 

(not sure, just a possibility before every one starts taking out their di**s and start measuring your junk...)

Hi mate the headphones weren't the sz1000 vs the pro700 mk2 it was the vibe blackdeath vs pro700mk2 and one of the guys posted a vs battle lmao and concluded that the vibe's had more impact in which I stated my opinion saying they do not and for the future JAW SHATTERING BASS is just a phrase, no need to take it so serious but it was funny seeing the hostility I got from these guys lol I went over to the basshead thread and saw this guy was not liked on there either no surprise really the way he talks to people is very ugly. and the sz1000 yes have more impact than the pro700 mk2.

post #660 of 2907
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


I'm more than happy to be proved wrong and look forward to watching your vibe BD Vs. AT Pro700mk2 video's which I take you must own both to make such a confident comment.

If you have any other bass cans in your collection you think can displace the current cans shown here - go for it - that's what this thread is all about - showing NOT blowing hot air or should I say bass air wink.gif

I no longer have the vibe's as they did not live up to there death by bass name, also there build quality is awful and they were very hard to get rid off on ebay I think I sold them for £20 lol. 


Edited by ati832 - 6/18/14 at 2:57pm
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