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post #1981 of 2340
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post


J.V.C. jp did not have the SZ series listed in March. They were erased from the radar. They are now the only "premium" cans listed

When I needed specs/info/pics in March I had to go here

So they are clearly up and running with production of the sz. The 55x ...like you said....a whole generation of little brothers are gonna say their first cans were 55x with some ****ty ass pads from big brothers bass cans.

send em an e-mail someday bassheads and maybe they will change those damn pads!!
 proinfo@jvc.com

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post #1982 of 2340
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Originally Posted by marone View Post

What you prefer, and this is science, is a constant ~50hZ tone rattling away with upper harmonics to 70hZ and lower down to 10. it is almost like the keyed-tone generators used for 1970's Sensurround audio tracks on film.
This is just a lower frequency version of the 150hZ lower mid range ''hump"' that is preferred by mid-fi consumers.
It's the same tone, over and over and over, boosted +32dB. Your graphs reveal this is what you want and the song selection has the same tones with your boost.

This is a serious suggestion: You should set up a tone generator with your rig, to trigger a 50hZ +32dB wave with harmonics above and below, and just play all of your tracks that way because that is what you are trying to do with the boost and track selection.
For whatever reason, you really like that 50hZ tone at +32dB or higher.

As far as the science, look into that tone generator keyed off of the track, seriously. Something that is like a tic track where a certain mathematical sequence is hit and then the generator pumps out the 50hZ sine wave with under and over tones, up to the max ability of your headphones to handle the energy. Clearly no amount of dynes per square centimetre is too much for your ears and hearing, so the limiting factor is your equipment.

You also may want to look into setting up only a subwoofer loudspeaker to act as a physical air and spine vibration machine. Have it only kick in below 70hZ and above 10hZ. This will also give the impact and slam that you prefer.

A pair of 15's in a ported enclosure, turned, set up with the proper crossover and 1,000watt amp, would be able to move a huge volume of air below 70hZ. You could do it yourself and save money.

You would play this at the same time as listening on your headphones.

Perhaps there is a way to DSP the signal and capture the lower frequency energy and then create a trigger to the 50hZ tone generator hooked up to your subwoofer and 1kW amp set up, or just pump the added 50hZ tone into your headphones alone and don't use the subwoofer so that the ceiling doesn't fall in.

That is a serious suggestion, no sarcasm. Look into it.

It's massive amounts of 50hZ you prefer.

Look into the resonant frequency of the human skull and upper spinal cord and upper chest also - this may give a clue as to what frequencies you prefer and which ones to amplify to get that feeling.
dude... That works? Interesting! I say that using the accelerometer is worthy of a look. This entire post was very interesting. Lets see what HBB and CB say.
post #1983 of 2340
So guys since I thing I am a basshead I would like to know which is really the best of the best basshead headphone that has it all great bass, warm rich mids and highs and great soundstage. I know th900 is recommended alot but which d u think beside th900 is second can u list ur preferences in.order
post #1984 of 2340
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

"IVE GOT A BASS CANNON, AND IM NOT AFRAID TO USE IT!"



"What's that? Get on my bike and take a hike?.....

Over you guys dead body am I getting white pads?.....

Well......if that's the way you want it.....

....LETS PLAY - THE CYPRESS HILL WAY,

"phat boy on a diet don't try it
I'll check your ass like a looter in a riot"

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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

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Originally Posted by marone View Post

What you prefer, and this is science, is a constant ~50hZ tone rattling away with upper harmonics to 70hZ and lower down to 10. it is almost like the keyed-tone generators used for 1970's Sensurround audio tracks on film. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
This is just a lower frequency version of the 150hZ lower mid range ''hump"' that is preferred by mid-fi consumers.
It's the same tone, over and over and over, boosted +32dB. Your graphs reveal this is what you want and the song selection has the same tones with your boost.

This is a serious suggestion: You should set up a tone generator with your rig, to trigger a 50hZ +32dB wave with harmonics above and below, and just play all of your tracks that way because that is what you are trying to do with the boost and track selection.
For whatever reason, you really like that 50hZ tone at +32dB or higher.

As far as the science, look into that tone generator keyed off of the track, seriously. Something that is like a tic track where a certain mathematical sequence is hit and then the generator pumps out the 50hZ sine wave with under and over tones, up to the max ability of your headphones to handle the energy. Clearly no amount of dynes per square centimetre is too much for your ears and hearing, so the limiting factor is your equipment.

You also may want to look into setting up only a subwoofer loudspeaker to act as a physical air and spine vibration machine. Have it only kick in below 70hZ and above 10hZ. This will also give the impact and slam that you prefer.

A pair of 15's in a ported enclosure, turned, set up with the proper crossover and 1,000watt amp, would be able to move a huge volume of air below 70hZ. You could do it yourself and save money.

You would play this at the same time as listening on your headphones.

Perhaps there is a way to DSP the signal and capture the lower frequency energy and then create a trigger to the 50hZ tone generator hooked up to your subwoofer and 1kW amp set up, or just pump the added 50hZ tone into your headphones alone and don't use the subwoofer so that the ceiling doesn't fall in.

That is a serious suggestion, no sarcasm. Look into it.

It's massive amounts of 50hZ you prefer.

Look into the resonant frequency of the human skull and upper spinal cord and upper chest also - this may give a clue as to what frequencies you prefer and which ones to amplify to get that feeling.

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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

dude... That works? Interesting! I say that using the accelerometer is worthy of a look. This entire post was very interesting. Lets see what HBB and CB say.

I read with interest but have to confess what I read went straight over my head - not that I'm discounting - just was blinded by science - I need a dumbed down version - in layman's terms blink.gifconfused_face_2.gif

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Edited by cb3723 - 8/22/14 at 7:07pm
post #1985 of 2340
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

So guys since I thing I am a basshead I would like to know which is really the best of the best basshead headphone that has it all great bass, warm rich mids and highs and great soundstage. I know th900 is recommended alot but which d u think beside th900 is second can u list ur preferences in.order

Reading between the lines of your question, I'd recommend the TH600 to you - it's 80% of the TH900 SQ but 50% of the cost, with level of bass slam/impact about the same as the TH900 if not slightly less maybe wink.gif


Just noted obsidyen recommending the JVC DX1000 - this headphone performed quite poorly on the bass/paper test which gives visual highlight of a HP's SPL "slam" quantity of bass air - though a great headphone in its own rights, when it comes to bass slam - the difference between the TH600 and DX1000 are all too apparent.


Edited by cb3723 - 8/22/14 at 3:33pm
post #1986 of 2340
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Originally Posted by hykhleif View Post

So guys since I thing I am a basshead I would like to know which is really the best of the best basshead headphone that has it all great bass, warm rich mids and highs and great soundstage. I know th900 is recommended alot but which d u think beside th900 is second can u list ur preferences in.order


TH600. :biggrin: JVC DX1000 maybe?

 

 

Ok guys, Basshead dac/amp combo.... I present to you......

 

CHORD HUGO

 

 

 

Hugo has very good low frequency extension, amazing bass (the best bass I've ever heard from a dac/amp) and is said to pair really well with Fostex TH600/TH900. Now as the dealer is out of stock, I still couldn't buy either of these but even with HD650 and flat EQ, Hugo produces some serious bass. Now I wonder what it could do with all these bass monsters you guys have. I'm sure the results will be amazing. If the amp doesn't go lower than 20Hz, the headphones' ability to go down 5Hz will mean nothing. Hugo is one of the best dac/amps out there indeed.


Edited by obsidyen - 8/22/14 at 2:34pm
post #1987 of 2340
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Originally Posted by obsidyen View Post


TH600. biggrin.gif JVC DX1000 maybe?


Ok guys, Basshead dac/amp combo.... I present to you......

CHORD HUGO





Hugo has very good low frequency extension, amazing bass (the best bass I've ever heard from a dac/amp) and is said to pair really well with Fostex TH600/TH900. Now as the dealer is out of stock, I still couldn't buy either of these but even with HD650 and flat EQ, Hugo produces some serious bass. Now I wonder what it could do with all these bass monsters you guys have. I'm sure the results will be amazing. If the amp doesn't go lower than 20Hz, the headphones' ability to go down 5Hz will mean nothing. Hugo is one of the best dac/amps out there indeed.

I've no experience with the Chord Hugo, but reviews claim it to be a neutral digital preamp with DAC - are you saying this device has on board EQ manual adjustment functions?
post #1988 of 2340

No, it doesn't have onboard EQ. :) Is it neutral? Well it is but not in a boring way. It's supremely musical. Treble and bass extension is unbeliveable (you have to hear it to believe it). Mids are also dreamy. With most dac/amps, you either get a smooth and polite sound (as with most Burr Browns, Wolfsons) or detailed but cold and boring sound (as with ESS Sabre dacs). Now I can't understand the technicalities much (you can ask Rob Watts in the Hugo forum, the designer of Hugo) but Hugo is something else. You can hear full frequency spectrum clearly and headphones' strong points (like very strong bass) is emphasized in a very musical way. Like if SZ2000 has good bass, Hugo will make you feel it more strongly without compromising musicality.

 

As I said, there are amps out there that don't go below 20 Hz. Such as JDS Labs C5D. Now this amp has a bass boost button. But it still can't go lower than 20 Hz. The button just increases the bass artificially and distorts the sound. Yes you hear more bass, but the musicality  is gone and what you hear is distortion. Hugo doesn't do that.

 

The review below actually summarizes what I want to say:

 

"There’s one more thing. Although I can’t say it exactly, I suppose that its neutral character & the frequency spectrum quite linear tells me that Hugo wouldn’t match too well with sibilant systems, if you have the rest of your electronics or the speakers /headphones less sibilant, probably Hugo wouldn’t hide these shortcomings, it will emphasize them more.  Hugo by itself is not sibilant, but very honest & candid in a way with all music played."

 

http://soundnews.ro/2014/03/13/chord-hugo-review/

 

Hugo has a 6.3mm and two 3.5mm headphone jacks which can simultaneously drive 3 headphones so it's not only a dac or preamp, it's also a great portable&desktop headphone amp.


Edited by obsidyen - 8/22/14 at 3:15pm
post #1989 of 2340
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Originally Posted by obsidyen View Post

No, it doesn't have onboard EQ. smily_headphones1.gif Is it neutral? Well it is but not in a boring way. It's supremely musical. Treble and bass extension is unbeliveable (you have to hear it to believe it). Mids are also dreamy. With most dac/amps, you either get a smooth and polite sound (as with most Burr Browns, Wolfsons) or detailed but cold and boring sound (as with ESS Sabre dacs). Now I can't understand the technicalities much (you can ask Rob Watts in the Hugo forum, the designer of Hugo) but Hugo is something else. You can hear full frequency spectrum clearly and headphones' strong points (like very strong bass) is emphasized in a very musical way. Like if SZ2000 has good bass, Hugo will make you feel it more strongly without compromising musicality.

As I said, there are amps out there that don't go below 20 Hz. Such as JDS Labs C5D. Now this amp has a bass boost button. But it still can't go lower than 20 Hz. The button just increases the bass artificially and distorts the sound. Yes you hear more bass, but the musicality  is gone and what you hear is distortion. Hugo doesn't do that.

The review below actually summarizes what I want to say:

"There’s one more thing. Although I can’t say it exactly, I suppose that its neutral character & the frequency spectrum quite linear tells me that Hugo wouldn’t match too well with sibilant systems, if you have the rest of your electronics or the speakers /headphones less sibilant, probably Hugo wouldn’t hide these shortcomings, it will emphasize them more.  Hugo by itself is not sibilant, but very honest & candid in a way with all music played."

http://soundnews.ro/2014/03/13/chord-hugo-review/

Hugo has a 6.3mm and two 3.5mm headphone jacks which can simultaneously drive 3 headphones so it's not only a dac or preamp, it's also a great portable&desktop headphone amp.

Well, the SZ2000 has good, very good bass - but only when EQ is heavily applied which I guess if used with the Chord Hugo, you'd achieve from whatever DAP you had.

I can't see many SZ owners running out to drop £1200/$2000 on a Chord Hugo rather than a Fiio E17 or Fiio E18 at £100/£120/$165//$200, but maybe TH600, TH900 etc owners may consider.

Yeah, I've read that the Chord Hugo though a portable on the go unit rivals many desktop equivalents - nice smily_headphones1.gif
post #1990 of 2340
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post

beerchug.gif DRUNK? - DRUNK ON 40mm BASS BRO beerchug.gif
Sure it ain't U getting tipsy on happoshu or rice wine bro? wink.gifbiggrin.gif
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cb mix download link:

https://soundcloud.com/happy-daze/cb3723-brutal-bassegeddon-headphone-test-mix

.....but does the Kraken accept this challenge?

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I accept your challenge. Replaced my cans with the pro version. There is actually a huge difference. The sound is a lot clearer, and the bass hits so hard it hurts. Can handle 100% volume with no distortion
post #1991 of 2340
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Originally Posted by NewWaveAudio View Post

I accept your challenge. Replaced my cans with the pro version.
There is actually a huge difference.
The sound is a lot clearer, and the bass hits so hard it hurts. Can handle 100% volume with no distortion


Sounds good (be gentle though - RELOOP cans are new and shy to this thread redface.gif... biggrin.gif )

Dear god - the bass from the Kraken Pro is hurting you - 100% volume - no distortion basshead.gif

Are you saying the KP's are.....over....9000 eek.gif


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Edited by cb3723 - 8/22/14 at 9:49pm
post #1992 of 2340
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LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Sounds good (be gentle though - RELOOP cans are new and shy to this thread redface.gif... biggrin.gif )

 LOL v2 

 

Ply them with liquor and uppers and they'll be starting fights with all the giants in no time:tongue: 


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 8/23/14 at 6:12am
post #1993 of 2340
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Ply them with liquor and uppers and they'll be starting fights with all the giants in no time:p

Root Beer & Vitamin tablets cover it? tongue.gif


Ever had a RockStar before? Man, they are loaded with all kinds of shizz and keep you hyper alert for a whiles after you drink it - laced with high concentrations of caffeine - lots of schools in UK have banned these type of buzz energy drinks after they were linked to behavioural issues that were effecting kids grades eek.gif

Edited by cb3723 - 8/23/14 at 12:55am
post #1994 of 2340
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Root Beer & Vitamin tablets cover it? tongue.gif


Ever had a RockStar before? Man, they are loaded with all kinds of shizz and keep you hyper alert for a whiles after you drink it - laced with high concentrations of caffeine - lots of schools in UK have banned these type of buzz energy drinks after they were linked to behavioural issues that were effecting kids grades eek.gif

 

 

 

 

 

:o

 

 

 

 

Love the test and love the "whatever dude" cat that saunters by like a badass cat does.:D

post #1995 of 2340
Thread Starter 

Love the wave form and accurate eq below. Can consider the far left bar to be 20Hz

 

Good stuff!

 

 

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Nah...just "Rah" that ****...(cuz I can't get into music without lyrics)

 

 

The original bass can killa:veryevil:

 

If your a new SZ owner you need to amp this and listen for the whole track


Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 8/23/14 at 2:33am
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