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post #1696 of 2919
I'm so getting this Asus headphones. Is it on sal3?
post #1697 of 2919
Thread Starter 

 

These are D1100 and 55XX drivers

 

 

This is the 60mm from the ROG Orion Pro

That design and the opaqueness are similar to 3 drivers which were so soft that touching the outer part of the diaphragm was enough to cause deformation while clearer mylar always seems to be much harder and there are no worries with touching the diaphragm (never touch the dome of course)

 

Anyone know of any owner and if they amp? They appear to be easy to distort. I might be wrong but the  design and appearance of the mylar seem to indicate not bass cannon. If I'm wrong that's cool since it means a very well priced cannon for the list but....just wondering..

post #1698 of 2919
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Originally Posted by dailysmoker View Post

Q40 overrated haha do not know the SZ and if it's better i think not and build quality is medium indeed ,but man this thing is a BEAST dude!! if you do not believe that you have a bad source or bad equipment......wink_face.gif  

Dude - ?

Who are you replying to?

Hit the quote tab & your posts will show who & what you are referring to wink.gif




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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post




These are D1100 and 55XX drivers




This is the 60mm from the ROG Orion Pro
That design and the opaqueness are similar to 3 drivers which were so soft that touching the outer part of the diaphragm was enough to cause deformation while clearer mylar always seems to be much harder and there are no worries with touching the diaphragm (never touch the dome of course)

Anyone know of any owner and if they amp? They appear to be easy to distort. I might be wrong but the  design and appearance of the mylar seem to indicate not bass cannon. If I'm wrong that's cool since it means a very well priced cannon for the list but....just wondering..

Interesting cool.gif

JVC use carbon nano tube material for a lot of their drivers now, for it's strength and acoustic qualities, used also in the SZ1&2K - right?

Edit What is "Mylar" ? - some sort of thin plasticky stuff? (I'd normally google up an explanation, but know you and other members research the science of all this type of schiit so probs have a more in depth answer, if getting deep in Mylar is possible that is?)

One thought that crossed my mind after watching the review video with host Lorelyn, was that she made no mention of any strong or "thunderous" bass, which you would expect to get some mention as it's a feature highlighted by Asus's marketing?

But, owl eyes might somehow pump the bass, I mean, no, I....doesn't matter....... redface.gif

My hopes that the Strix is a cannon has faded a bit but be great to be proved wrong smily_headphones1.gif

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Originally Posted by obsidyen View Post

I'm so getting this Asus headphones. Is it on sal3?

Yeah, check previous page - Amazon UK have stock so please report back soon with your findings and bass/paper test video smily_headphones1.gif

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No pressure obsidyen, but all owl eyes are on you wink.gif

Only joking biggrin.gif doing a bass/paper test is not mandatory - entirely up to you to make or not, but if you do pull the trigger before s5300, it would be great to get your impressions of these cans for sure smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 8/10/14 at 11:49am
post #1699 of 2919
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post
 

In a nod to those who think me and cb don't disagree we do;). Not often.... but I find the Q40 to be the most overrated cans i have ever touched. It was called a cannon and a face melter and so on in the old bass thread and it's not and it's build quality is terrible. Somebody in there once implied the Q40 were superior in bass response to the sz. That's how much the homerism was.

 

 

 

 

AKAI

77X

HPH AKAI

The mod mailed was a semi fail.

The holes need to be opposed and the weakest part of the otherwise oustanding build was the plastic cups. Like deadining material the bass went to it and died. Ad the aluminum flashing and it hammers.

 

My 77x are my hardest hittings cans and they do crazy **** after this mod (left pic)

 

They are modded so I don't spout about too much but when folks talk about Lawton mods and other stuff I gotta jump in.

 

The AKAI stomp a mud hole in the Q40's ass and walk it dry. Need to put in work but if modding is within your thing than this is within reach. They eat more amd and hit harder just like a nice new 50mm driver should do to a older smaller 40mm. It all lines up with common sense

 

 

I was quoting this guy about the Q40's

 

 

post #1700 of 2919
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post



Edit What is "Mylar" ? - some sort of thin plasticky stuff? (I'd normally google up an explanation, but know you and other members research the science of all this type of schiit so probs have a more in depth answer, if getting deep in Mylar is possible that is?)

One thought that crossed my mind after watching the review video with host Lorelyn, was that she made no mention of any strong or "thunderous" bass, which you would expect to get some mention as it's a feature highlighted by Asus's marketing?


 

 

Pretty much variations of this in thickness/strength in the form used for acoustic driver (above)

 

 

 

In a thicker form it's the plastic drink bottles in the local convenience store.

 

Better quality PET appears to be more clear just like plastic bottles while the cheapest form is not clear and very very fragile and prone to early and easy distortion.

 

I haven't read anything claiming the 60mm are bass monsters but they are claimed to be good sounding. The 57mm family generally has a mid range that sounds like ass due to a resonance that interrupts the mids (bloated bass) but use a firm PET Mylar that you can rub your fingers on without hesitation

 

 

 

The 60mm could probably not be touched since they appear to be of the lower grade PET. They will also bottom out just like these do on the e12 low bass boost.

 

Nobody on Head-Fi has any of these 60mm gaming rigs?

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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

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Pretty much variations of this in thickness/strength in the form used for acoustic driver (above)





In a thicker form it's the plastic drink bottles in the local convenience store.

Better quality PET appears to be more clear just like plastic bottles while the cheapest form is not clear and very very fragile and prone to early and easy distortion.

I haven't read anything claiming the 60mm are bass monsters but they are claimed to be good sounding. The 57mm family generally has a mid range that sounds like ass due to a resonance that interrupts the mids (bloated bass) but use a firm PET Mylar that you can rub your fingers on without hesitation





The 60mm could probably not be touched since they appear to be of the lower grade PET. They will also bottom out just like these do on the e12 low bass boost.

Nobody on Head-Fi has any of these 60mm gaming rigs?

Cool & thanks for the education cool.gif

Doesn't look like there's any headfiers who own the Strix that could give impressions (yet *obsidyen + s5300*).

I was speaking with another member recently regarding the Fostex TH900 and he shed some interesting light on the drivers used being built "more like a speaker driver, i.e. using a real cone and a surround instead of the normal construction where the membrane is of the same kind/material over the whole diameter".

As you know better than most, the JVC HA-SZ1000 & 2000 use a chamber system usually found in loudspeakers with two independent drivers, one for the low end and other for mids & highs, so maybe it isn't so surprising that these two headphones are very similarly matched in bass impact, with the SZ2000 having the edge, considering both take design cues from loud speakers?

New materials for future mass produced drivers include Graphene which wiki describes as "pure carbon in the form of a very thin, nearly transparent sheet, one atom thick. It is remarkably strong for its very low weight (100 times stronger than steel".

Researchers have already made a graphene diaphragm for earphones at University of California and as soon as this new material can be quickly and economically mass produced, it's expected to be used in myriads of applications, driver diaphragms being one of them.

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Source: http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/150646-berkeley-creates-the-first-graphene-earphones-and-unsurprisingly-theyre-awesome

In other news

Top bird Paris Hilton is to DJ in Ibiza for 4 days for £1.6 million GBP - not bad work if you can get it biggrin.gif

Looks like she uses v-moda m-100 headphones from below picture?

Clearly this indicates she is a basshead and most likely used the extreme bass clubs
top 10 list right here on this very thread and updated every Friday to
make an informed choice of extreme bass can to choose from wink.gif

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Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/08/08/paris-hilton-dj-ibiza_n_5660899.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Edited by cb3723 - 8/10/14 at 3:04pm
post #1702 of 2919
Actually, Carbon Nanotube's are Graphene... Just rolled into a tube.
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

Actually, Carbon Nanotube's are Graphene... Just rolled into a tube.

Yup the 55mm is carbon and the 30mm is CNT. both far stronger than most headphone drivers. The SZ series do NOT physically distort but on massive push will echo/resonate distort. Your ears should be puking up ear drum bits before this happens though.

 

 

why didn't you get these bro??

 

 

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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post

Actually, Carbon Nanotube's are Graphene... Just rolled into a tube.

From my very limited knowledge on this, I think graphene in the way it's pictured in my original post is a lot harder to manufacture than carbon nanotubes - not that I'm in anyway putting down JVC for using CNTubes - quite the opposite - I salute them for pioneering it's qualities in the use of diaphragms, just that when graphene can be used in mass production, I think it's qualities as a driver will be even more advantageous than current carbon nanotubes.

In other news



This is the story of one mans epic journey from disillusion to fulfilment in the search for the ultimate bass hitting cans.

It's pretty cool - should be made into a film for sure cool.gif

For prospective bass headphone buyers out there, this video acts as an additional visual supplement to the bass/paper test videos, top 10 & recommended list - there's quite a wealth of information here to assist anyone to make an informed choice outside of the golden rule - always audition a headphone for yourself, but when that's not possible, utilise the information available to your fullest potential wink.gif

One thing I personally don't agree with in HBB's above video is the XB1000 sounding bad, but that's just my personal opinion of course smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 8/11/14 at 3:40am
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


available to your fullest potential wink.gif

One thing I personally don't agree with in HBB's above video is the XB1000 sounding bad, but that's just my personal opinion of course smily_headphones1.gif

 

I actually set myself up for a fall by expecting a % increase relative to the increase in diaphragm area when I already know that does not work with car audio drivers.

I thought everything was very different when I have months later come to know that with dynamic drivers it's very much the same. 

I was using the "rah" hit on the XB which would be great done right but the sub-bass of Wiz would be better suited for the 70mm. 

If I ever get my hands on a set I'm gonna half the pad depth and am sure it will abuse my face. Just open the padding stitches and half the material and re-sew and trim the excess material.

I look forward to that project.:D

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Now watch the below training video for more details...very_evil_smiley.gif


Power Up Your 40mm Bass Cannons & Wait for the Signal to Fire evil_smiley.gif

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Edited by cb3723 - 8/11/14 at 6:15am
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

 

 

 

 

 

April 30th 2014

 

 

 

 

 

There was no comprehensive collection of bass cans listed on Head-Fi or anywhere on the internet. I had already begun a Wiki.

 

 

Circumstances came about to where I was in a position to focus on very heavy low frequency emphasis. "Extreme Bass".

This thread began.

 

  • 4 months of Top 10 lists have been built and improved.
  • The list is based on identical tracks played on identical hardware with identical settings which are shared. 
  • There is a visual demonstration of low frequency energy recorded and shared.
  • Brand,cost and built quality are not factors in the list. It is about bass mostly and the rest is about bass
  • Head-Fi links are the 1st two in at least 1 search engine and it's us.

 

 

 

 

 

Look at that again please.

 

A lot of time as been spent on this and it is growing into an amazing success. This is about Extreme bass. This is not about other things. If the folks who build this thread with much time and effort blow off steam and joke and stuff it's because the Monthly list has been tested and posted. This is not a bass sandbox/playground. 

Today veered off topic as a user became the focus and not the equipment.

I chimed in.

All mention has been removed not because a mod came in but because we worked it out without having to be treated like children. If a mod comes in it's pretty ******* ridiculous since I am assuming we are all adults or close to it. 

All threads are open for the most part and the only direction is based on the location and the title of the thread. 

This one cannot be more clear.

 

 

  • Small talk about cans not on the list or not potential candidates do not belong in this thread.
  • Mentioning other members for anything other than thanks and praise belongs in the PM
  • Requests to remove posts related to the two points above is expected to happen.

 

EDIT: We have worked it out. 

 

This is a collection of the hardest hitting cans. Nothing more.

There are no links provided. We do not do sales by proxy. Find your own links.

You proceed with the knowledge that nothing is better than a personal listening experience.

 

*Spent the weekend camping on a pristine high mountain lake looking at Mt Hood, target shooting and mountain biking.  It appears I missed all the vitriol aimed at me but I did receive numerous PM's by friends so I got the gist of what happened.   Glad I was camping.

 

It seems ati832 attacked me saying D600's are not basshead cans nor are Pro900's and I misled him or something to that effect.   ati, if you feel I misled you it was only in trying to help.  Sorry.  As you know, we all hear differently and I stand by my original contention that the two cans are great bass cans when fed right. 

 

Most of my replies are to honestly try to help guys and give them other perspectives.   There are other ways to experience great bass besides a Cowon/E-12.  Many.  But I realized it's like swimming upstream to offer contradictory suggestions here so as the saying goes, no sweat off my nose.  The atmosphere here is not conducive to sharing perspectives in this thread, or at least from me, unfortunately.   Far from it.   It could open up different combinations.  Imagine an Arrow 3G out of a SZ-2000.  Or double amping a ZO with an E-12 into the TH-900.  Could be epic. 

 

 

 

*Am I reading the second part right?  We are not "allowed" to discuss things other than what you deem acceptable?  Really?

 

 

So to keep it on topic, try the following -

 

Arrow 3G portable amp.  

Add a ZO to the chain with another amp.  Since this is about extreme bass, can't get much more extreme than that. 

For non-portable usage, try a vintage amp.  Throw the loudness switch and try that bass. 

 

Take care gents. 

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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post
 
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  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Now watch the below training video for more details...very_evil_smiley.gif

 
Power Up Your 40mm Bass Cannons & Wait for the Signal to Fire evil_smiley.gif
 
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I will be firing up 50 cents

DJ PRO for the 40mm throwdown

 

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Edited by Hawaiibadboy - 8/11/14 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post

Yup the 55mm is carbon and the 30mm is CNT. both far stronger than most headphone drivers. The SZ series do NOT physically distort but on massive push will echo/resonate distort. Your ears should be puking up ear drum bits before this happens though.

why didn't you get these bro??

the ws77's were actually extremely cheap... I got both the UE6K with the WS77's for under 100$. Believe me, I WOULD have gotten the SZ1K if I had the money. Ah, I guess ill wait until Christmas... The HA-MR77X I could have gotten... But didn't. 2 headphones VS 1... (both new by the way.) just isn't a deal I can pass up.
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I would like to personally blame/thank CB and HBB for not only convincing me to buy SZ1000's, but also to finally make an account as well. Looking forward to having some real bass in my life, my sennheisers HD 558's are great for just about everything, but I know what good bass should be/feel like.


Edited by MrGoat - 8/11/14 at 12:35pm
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