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post #346 of 1034
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Welcome to IG Bob!

We will be flooding when things get rolling! You should pick out some hash tags that we can use on each post.

#RockJawAudio would be a good one to start with.
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Absolutely! Looks like you came up with a few already : )
post #347 of 1034

Wow - tip rolling with the Alpha Genus has been a real eye opener!

 

I recently switched from the silver filters to the ebony ones - mainly because the silvers (with a good seal) are a little too warm and bassy for me. Comparatively I found the ebony filters with stock tips a little light - quite linear, but light on the bass.  I haven't been able to use comply tips so far - because they haven't been sticking properly to the A-G nozzles when I get a deep ear insertion (the tips quite often come off in my ears).  So I tried some of the Monster Super Tips I have from a sampler pack I bought a while back.

 

I now have a pair of foams that:
[a] Mostly remain on the A-Gs (very occasionally one remains in my ear if inserted deeply) - I push them all the way onto the nozzle though

[b] Isolate almost completely - about as good as the Shure olives used to.

[c] Seal completely

 

Now with the silver filters, bass is very present - almost too much on some tracks - but quite enjoyable.

 

So anyone noticing huge swings in comments from reviews please note that the sound is very tip/seal dependent.  Might pay for reviewers to note this.

 

Bob - I still think there is a place for a filter between the ebony and silver though.  I don't quite get a 100% seal from the stock tips (it's close), but there is enough space to lower the bass response.  So a middle filter may alleviate that for stock tip users (which BTW are quite comfortable).

post #348 of 1034
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Wow - tip rolling with the Alpha Genus has been a real eye opener!

I recently switched from the silver filters to the ebony ones - mainly because the silvers (with a good seal) are a little too warm and bassy for me. Comparatively I found the ebony filters with stock tips a little light - quite linear, but light on the bass.  I haven't been able to use comply tips so far - because they haven't been sticking properly to the A-G nozzles when I get a deep ear insertion (the tips quite often come off in my ears).  So I tried some of the Monster Super Tips I have from a sampler pack I bought a while back.

I now have a pair of foams that:

[a] Mostly remain on the A-Gs (very occasionally one remains in my ear if inserted deeply) - I push them all the way onto the nozzle though
Isolate almost completely - about as good as the Shure olives used to.
[c] Seal completely

Now with the silver filters, bass is very present - almost too much on some tracks - but quite enjoyable.

So anyone noticing huge swings in comments from reviews please note that the sound is very tip/seal dependent.  Might pay for reviewers to note this.

Bob - I still think there is a place for a filter between the ebony and silver though.  I don't quite get a 100% seal from the stock tips (it's close), but there is enough space to lower the bass response.  So a middle filter may alleviate that for stock tip users (which BTW are quite comfortable).

We going to sort out some memory foam tips to include on the next run like we have with the others.

Nice bit of help full info for reviewers Brooko
post #349 of 1034
Aren't the silver filter always bassy?

I find myself able to live with the black / ebony (?) filter better. It just feels cleaner and more mid presence xD
post #350 of 1034

Sorry - should have proofed post first - I meant:

 

Now with the ebony filters, bass is very present - almost too much on some tracks - but quite enjoyable.

 

This is with a complete seal - deep insertion.

 

It surprised me.

post #351 of 1034
What's the model used from ComplyFoam for RockJaw's IEM? I'm currently using 200 series and it works like a champ except that it's a bit on the tighter side. Can't remember how much it change the sound but will try it again soon biggrin.gif
post #352 of 1034
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Originally Posted by BillsonChang007 View Post

What's the model used from ComplyFoam for RockJaw's IEM? I'm currently using 200 series and it works like a champ except that it's a bit on the tighter side. Can't remember how much it change the sound but will try it again soon biggrin.gif

I've recently used the Tx-400 with the Arcana, which I initially found tight to attach, however that is a good thing as the tip won't easily become detached and stuck in my ear. I did find the sound signature to change.

 

Regarding the Alfa Genus filters, an inbetween option is great as filter preference does come down to personal choice, which is why having more filters available is a fantastic selling point. I love my Alfas, they are my go to IEMs for travelling.


Edited by ApplesRevenge - 6/29/14 at 5:36am
post #353 of 1034
I love the Alfa for portable too! Simple enough and does not need an amp to be happy. I use it directly out of my iPhone 4
post #354 of 1034
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Originally Posted by Rockbob View Post


After a couple of beers? wink.gif

 

Heh, maybe.

 

Oh, here's my list: 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Indigo Children JLE Dub Mix – Puscifer

Wilhelm Scream – James Blake

Spanish Harlem – Rebecca Pidgeon

Ocean – John Butler Trio (The Live at St. Gallen version is super cool; towards the end is an absolute wall of sound that’s incredibly hard to dissect)

Quarter Chicken Dark – Goat Rodeo Sessions (Do they have a group name? They definitely should make more music. I also usually like to use Here and Heaven from this album too, but Quarter Chicken Dark is great for testing PRaT.)

Booty Swing – Parov Stelar

A Floating Butterfly Stings Like A Bee – Michele Adamson; Mi-Loony-Um

Come On! Feel the Illinoise! – Sufjan Stevens

Final Warning – Skylar Grey (As a pop benchmark)

Bad Boy Good Man – Tape Five

Take Five – Rodrigo y Gabriella (I’ve played it so much on the saxophone the original version makes me sick, plus the version on Re-Foc is pretty nice for testing timbre. You can definitely hear the nylon’s twang)

The Watchmaker – Steve Wilson

Furioso – Pavor

Ripple Effect – Phutureprimitive

 Come Away With Me – Norah Jones

Autumn Tree –Milo Greene

The Planets – Detroit Symphony Orchestra

The Four Seasons – Igor Kipnis

Classical of any sort is what I’m least versed in; I’d love to hear suggestions.

Laundry – Midwest Product

Stay Away – Chris Thile

Back It Up – Caro Emerald

1976 – RJD2

Private Psychadelic Funk Reel – The Chemical Brothers

 

I was actually going to try Supertips as well. Good to hear they work!


Edited by Ishcabible - 6/29/14 at 7:38am
post #355 of 1034
Are the foam tips included with the Kontrol obtained from Comply or are they sourced third party as they don't have the same type of quality?
post #356 of 1034
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No they are not comply.
post #357 of 1034
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post
 

We talked about this a while ago - so I've finally compiled a list of test tracks that I use frequently when testing headphones.  Not all of them are always used - and a lot have no real reason (some aren't even the best quality mastering) for being listed other than the fact that it is music I like, and gives me a feel for performance across different genres.

 

Anyway - here's the list.  Will be interested to see lists from the other testers - it might be a great way to compare and also pick up some new artists etc.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/a/brookos-test-tracks

That is awesome mate, I do have some tunes that I use for testing, nowhere as extensive as yours though...

 

I'll see if I can compile them and share, aye bruh? :tongue_smile:

post #358 of 1034
Well I did a little testing with the silver filers again and some other tips from the X3.

DUNU TaiChi - Grey Silicone and DUNU LandMine - Dual Flange and Large Bore

I just do not have any music where the bass quantity from the silver filters would be enjoyable. I tested Indigo Children [JLE Dub Mix] which is my bass goto track, Infected Mushroom's "End of Road" & "Sa'eed" from Black Shawarma, "Send me an Angel" from Army of Mushrooms, "IM The Supervisor" and "Cities of the Future" from IM The Supervisor.

Just too much bass for me, it bleeds up into the mid's, for Schiit's and Giggles I thought I'd try one of my favorite power tracks A7X's "Buried Alive" from the Nightmare album... A definite NO as you can barely make out M Shadows voice...

The Dual Flange were the best of the lot in this test as it places the driver a little further away which lessens the bass. The worst was the Large Bore then the Grey silicone.

I'll stick with the black filters till the new one's arrive. We can label the silver filters "Beats" if you want... biggrin.gif
post #359 of 1034
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Originally Posted by TrollDragon View Post

Well I did a little testing with the silver filers again and some other tips from the X3.

DUNU TaiChi - Grey Silicone and DUNU LandMine - Dual Flange and Large Bore

I just do not have any music where the bass quantity from the silver filters would be enjoyable. I tested Indigo Children [JLE Dub Mix] which is my bass goto track, Infected Mushroom's "End of Road" & "Sa'eed" from Black Shawarma, "Send me an Angel" from Army of Mushrooms, "IM The Supervisor" and "Cities of the Future" from IM The Supervisor.

Just too much bass for me, it bleeds up into the mid's, for Schiit's and Giggles I thought I'd try one of my favorite power tracks A7X's "Buried Alive" from the Nightmare album... A definite NO as you can barely make out M Shadows voice...

The Dual Flange were the best of the lot in this test as it places the driver a little further away which lessens the bass. The worst was the Large Bore then the Grey silicone.

I'll stick with the black filters till the new one's arrive. We can label the silver filters "Beats" if you want... biggrin.gif

After reading your last paragraph I shall now find a tree and some rope wink.gif
post #360 of 1034

TD - I agree mostly - although I wonder whether the warmish pairing with the X3 would be helping .....

 

When I paired my Studio 3 (bright DAP) with the A-G silver and stock tips (so not perfect seal), and some quite bright recordings (Genesis album "Turn It On Again : The Hits", or Beth Hart's "Live At Paradiso") - they were actually quite enjoyable.  But that's special case stuff.  Otherwise the ebony filters are my go to now.

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