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post #136 of 519

Amazing there are no real reviews from H8P.

post #137 of 519
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Amazing there are no real reviews from H8P.

it's because we're all happy and have quit the world of hifi fora ....:dt880smile:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(partially (95%) true for me actually! :happy_face1:) Sometimes the question bugs me: do i need something else? Just to get my own answer: NOOOOOOOOO

post #138 of 519
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so, whats your impressions and thoughts after a few days? smily_headphones1.gif
from what I know he might have suffered from permanent grinage
post #139 of 519
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Originally Posted by hertzsogood View Post
 

Amazing there are no real reviews from H8P.

I beg to slightly differ. Most of us have had them for less than two weeks, and I usually try not to review before at least three weeks/a month of ownership (which is why I only posted a "quick feedback"). So it would seem that the H8P owners are either reasonnable as I am, or a bunch of lazies :D

 

Just got my ZX1 last week, and could only start to test it today. It seems to drive the H8P a tad better than my F887 did. It would seem that the H8P do need to be a little driven. I'll get an O2 soon to confirm/infirm that opinion.

post #140 of 519
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I beg to slightly differ. Most of us have had them for less than two weeks, and I usually try not to review before at least three weeks/a month of ownership (which is why I only posted a "quick feedback"). So it would seem that the H8P owners are either reasonnable as I am, or a bunch of lazies :D

 

Just got my ZX1 last week, and could only start to test it today. It seems to drive the H8P a tad better than my F887 did. It would seem that the H8P do need to be a little driven. I'll get an O2 soon to confirm/infirm that opinion.

Well well you created a self imposed rule to live by. I will say when one goes to a store they do come up with a thought. A thought such as "these sound good" or "these are not my kind of earphone". If they demo and like it and end up buying it they can come up with a quick review. yes you did make a quick review and a good one while one other made a horrible attempt maybe due to English not Being his language.

post #141 of 519

My bad. I thought you aimed at thourough reviews.

post #142 of 519
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My bad. I thought you aimed at thourough reviews.

I ordered a pair and so I have not demoed them. Any brief listen can help such as: Are the treble good and high? Is the bass low and can you feel the depth of the bass on certain tracks? Is the Meds forwards are neutral?

post #143 of 519

Well I can try and answer some of those questions. The trebles are excellent in my opinion. My best experience with trebs were the SA7 thus far (I know, that they can't compare).

 

The H8P trebs are very precise yet totally untiring. It is a surprising combination. As I said previously, I think this may come from the slightly warm signature, but I can't be sure.

 

The bass is outstanding I my opinion : as I said, you can feel the rumble physiologically. And the mids stand right here strong in the middle, which is probably the most impressive feat in my opinion : on most of the high end gear I tested (EM32, SE846), if there was bass, then the mids would recess, especially if there was good trebs. This is NOT the case with H8P. Your mids are here with you, well separated from the rest. There is just a lot of everything, without interferences or overlap.

 

I test drived the H8P with a forum friend who owns EM4 reshelled by UM. The EM4's are a little more musical, but clearly lagging in the bass and detail department. He is a lot more experienced than I am, and considered that the game for the H8P were the SE5.

post #144 of 519

While I do agree with MrButchi I do understand the anticipatory nature of new products, therefore while I am still working up to as ‘in-depth’ a review as I am liable to ever do, I shall provide some brief thoughts for those amongst us who cannot live without a tantalising glimpse…

I will start this as ever with a disclaimer; few of things to note:

1) My only other comparison point of ‘decent’ IEM is the UE900, the 330-v2 I consider to be too long in my auditory memory to be anything other than nostalgic imagination.

 

2) My source for this has been O2/ODAC using FLAC from JRiver.

 

3) My ears like the treble of unmodded HD800s from an O2/ODAC.. (think of that what you will – they’re my ears!)



So, the H8Pro, where to start…

Well, firstly, there is almost ‘inevitably’ some smoothing of the sound. This I shall assume is due to them being designed as the best compromise between the music and pro series, the pro being to my nostalgic imagination, revealing and analytical.

Now this is not to say the H8P is unrevealing, it just feels like it is rounding off the points in both good and bad recordings that would ‘insert large shard of glass into your ear drum’ as it were.
What this does mean in practical terms is that while you get cymbal shine, it doesn’t bloom into that almost over the top feeling that feels like it should be too much, but when you hit a cymbal it actually produces (if that makes any sense whatsoever…).


As this shall qualify as my ‘mini’ review – I shall refer to the glossary of ‘reviewers terms describing sound’:

 

Treble: Extended and detailed,

 

Airy, a nice transparent feeling, it gives you an insight to the upper ranges that I haven’t heard in a while and with caveat described above – not ‘long-lasting?’ but does control sibilance.

Mids: An almost ‘liquid’ mid, except as that implies textureless, say ripples on a pond – there’s texture where it should be but otherwise gives you an ‘invitational sound’

 

Articulate voices, ability to pick out the rasp or texture of a particular singer on a good recording.

 

Bass: Layers of well textured bass that give lots of information.
           

The upper and mid bass is well controlled and defined, however the extension into the sub bass is what I feel makes this a truly special experience, especially in the fundamental notes, lots of grip, a nice sturdy bass.

e.g. with some organ music, where with a sub you would feel room lock, it feels like you should be sat upright and holding onto something as these feel like they are gripping your head and almost giving you that visceral bass that only occurs when the air in the room hammers through your chest.

(I would assume this to be somewhat echoed by non-pro owners, due to the only change being the tweeter, we shall see)

 

PRaT: Enough to have you unconsciously tapping to the music and a small grin on your face.

 

To stick the above parts together, the cohesiveness of the sound is top notch, no one area appears to steal from another, the segue from one frequency to another is seamless.
(I will be very interested to see a better ‘eared’ and experienced reviewers take)

Personal frequency response (my ears at a reasonable level of volume aka. what I listen at):
36hz-18.6khz and I suspect 18.6khz is my personal limit..

 

 

To finish this:

I have come across no recordings in my musical library (almost exclusively CD Flac rips) that sound ‘bad’, I have come across exceptions before with other systems, but the H8P seems to have the ability to make good stuff sound brilliant and give badly mastered stuff it’s best opportunity to be enjoyed.

In summary of this 'supposedly mini' review:

It has proven to be exactly what I hoped for and more.

 

(In that I was looking for a ‘musical’ CIEM that would be a jack of all trades, it turns out to be a Jack of all trades, but not the ‘master of none’, I think it manages to master a fair bit more than I expected – however I still plan on picking up a couple of more ‘specialised’ CIEMs)

Kudos to you Piotr!

 

P.S.  Piotr – the ‘grinnage’ is still occurring – do you sell muscle relaxant cream?

 

P.P.S. (To restate – the above is IMO – I am not liable for any damages or losses incurred from the purchase and subsequent injury/damage/non-likeability to/from/of these CIEMs)
Well, unless you’ve stolen my ears! In which case – would you kindly return them.

 

P.P.P.S. I had no Idea I would write so much... oops.

 

My eventual ‘review’ should hopefully build upon this and shall quote specific passages of music and potential sound comparisons with my other equipment.

 

Also, any specific things that people want to know? (Might as well ask..)

post #145 of 519
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Originally Posted by Eternal Phoenix View Post
 

While I do agree with MrButchi I do understand the anticipatory nature of new products, therefore while I am still working up to as ‘in-depth’ a review as I am liable to ever do, I shall provide some brief thoughts for those amongst us who cannot live without a tantalising glimpse…

I will start this as ever with a disclaimer; few of things to note:

1) My only other comparison point of ‘decent’ IEM is the UE900, the 330-v2 I consider to be too long in my auditory memory to be anything other than nostalgic imagination.

 

2) My source for this has been O2/ODAC using FLAC from JRiver.

 

3) My ears like the treble of unmodded HD800s from an O2/ODAC.. (think of that what you will – they’re my ears!)



So, the H8Pro, where to start…

Well, firstly, there is almost ‘inevitably’ some smoothing of the sound. This I shall assume is due to them being designed as the best compromise between the music and pro series, the pro being to my nostalgic imagination, revealing and analytical.

Now this is not to say the H8P is unrevealing, it just feels like it is rounding off the points in both good and bad recordings that would ‘insert large shard of glass into your ear drum’ as it were.
What this does mean in practical terms is that while you get cymbal shine, it doesn’t bloom into that almost over the top feeling that feels like it should be too much, but when you hit a cymbal it actually produces (if that makes any sense whatsoever…).


As this shall qualify as my ‘mini’ review – I shall refer to the glossary of ‘reviewers terms describing sound’:

 

Treble: Extended and detailed,

 

Airy, a nice transparent feeling, it gives you an insight to the upper ranges that I haven’t heard in a while and with caveat described above – not ‘long-lasting?’ but does control sibilance.

Mids: An almost ‘liquid’ mid, except as that implies textureless, say ripples on a pond – there’s texture where it should be but otherwise gives you an ‘invitational sound’

 

Articulate voices, ability to pick out the rasp or texture of a particular singer on a good recording.

 

Bass: Layers of well textured bass that give lots of information.
           

The upper and mid bass is well controlled and defined, however the extension into the sub bass is what I feel makes this a truly special experience, especially in the fundamental notes, lots of grip, a nice sturdy bass.

e.g. with some organ music, where with a sub you would feel room lock, it feels like you should be sat upright and holding onto something as these feel like they are gripping your head and almost giving you that visceral bass that only occurs when the air in the room hammers through your chest.

(I would assume this to be somewhat echoed by non-pro owners, due to the only change being the tweeter, we shall see)

 

PRaT: Enough to have you unconsciously tapping to the music and a small grin on your face.

 

To stick the above parts together, the cohesiveness of the sound is top notch, no one area appears to steal from another, the segue from one frequency to another is seamless.
(I will be very interested to see a better ‘eared’ and experienced reviewers take)

Personal frequency response (my ears at a reasonable level of volume aka. what I listen at):
36hz-18.6khz and I suspect 18.6khz is my personal limit..

 

 

To finish this:

I have come across no recordings in my musical library (almost exclusively CD Flac rips) that sound ‘bad’, I have come across exceptions before with other systems, but the H8P seems to have the ability to make good stuff sound brilliant and give badly mastered stuff it’s best opportunity to be enjoyed.

In summary of this 'supposedly mini' review:

It has proven to be exactly what I hoped for and more.

 

(In that I was looking for a ‘musical’ CIEM that would be a jack of all trades, it turns out to be a Jack of all trades, but not the ‘master of none’, I think it manages to master a fair bit more than I expected – however I still plan on picking up a couple of more ‘specialised’ CIEMs)

Kudos to you Piotr!

 

P.S.  Piotr – the ‘grinnage’ is still occurring – do you sell muscle relaxant cream?

 

P.P.S. (To restate – the above is IMO – I am not liable for any damages or losses incurred from the purchase and subsequent injury/damage/non-likeability to/from/of these CIEMs)
Well, unless you’ve stolen my ears! In which case – would you kindly return them.

 

P.P.P.S. I had no Idea I would write so much... oops.

 

My eventual ‘review’ should hopefully build upon this and shall quote specific passages of music and potential sound comparisons with my other equipment.

 

Also, any specific things that people want to know? (Might as well ask..)

Wow I enjoyed reading this and great choice of words especially about the bass. Good Job! Thanks !

post #146 of 519
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P.S.  Piotr – the ‘grinnage’ is still occurring – do you sell muscle relaxant cream?

 

Not so much the cream but for this you probably have to visit Amsterdam or Colorado otherwise ...you know... it's pretty much illegal :D

 

BTW. Thanks guys, great impressions - I really appreciate. Reading this makes my day.

post #147 of 519
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Originally Posted by piotrus-g View Post
 

Not so much the cream but for this you probably have to visit Amsterdam or Colorado otherwise ...you know... it's pretty much illegal :D

 

BTW. Thanks guys, great impressions - I really appreciate. Reading this makes my day.

 

Haha, dubiousness - are you sure that 'remedy' won't make things seem more.. shall we say euphoric?? or 'euphonic' 

 

Well, give me a while and I will try and scrape together a 'proper review'... hah! that could prove fun.

post #148 of 519
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post #149 of 519

I received my Harmony 8 Pro yesterday. Perfect fit and after some hours of listening I can say they are very balanced and it has a very wide sound stage. Only thing I dont like was my choice of color.

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by hertzsogood - 7/15/14 at 7:20pm
post #150 of 519
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congrats! 

 

don't think of the color, sound rules! :)

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