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post #376 of 1831
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

Any system you/we chose will have some subjectivity.

Coq feels the Pro900 is not a bass monster. I 100% disagree. That is as wide an opinion difference as you'll get.

Whatever the decision on methods and layout I'm agreeable to. But keeping it simple is a good goal.

 

Yeah, they are bassy, however, they're not monsters. For instance, my XB's have all been monsters in comparison. The UE6000 is a bass monster imo. The Ultrasones, nah. Bassy? Sure, just not monsters. Also, they aren't especially EQ-friendly. The Pro 900's have other qualities though; I have never ever heard a headphone render synths as good as the Pro 900, that pairing was amazing.

 

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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


I'll do a quick sound comparison test between all three cans shortly for a more accurate comparison on the sonics.

My thoughts ahead of sound test are:

SZ2000 - big, heavy, solid build, stock ear pads recommended to be replaced for improved comfort, shame about fixed cable.

77X - Full size but lighter than SZ2000's, handy rotating arm for DJ application, outstanding value for money, fixed cable seems a running theme with JVC as it is also here.

XB910 Lightest out of all three, exceptional sleek form fit factor, I think they look stylish, very comfortable, build is let down by mostly plastic used and can feel a little fragile, so need to be looked after - not as robust as the JVC' s, cable is removable with twist lock feature. Fold into a convenient size for travel unlike the JVC's. Best for portable use out of all three IMO also.

In UK the SZ2000's are most expensive priced around £240-£250, the XB910's are priced around £130-£140 and 77's by far the lowest best value priced around £60

Back shortly with sound comparisons between these three bass beasts wink.gif

Thanks mate, I'm eagerly waiting for sonic comparisons.

 

I think personally that the XB's have gotten a bad rep around here, but I enjoy them a lot. Also, yeah, I know what you mean by that "plasticky" - they feel fragile, however I've accidentally dropped them a few times and they survived without blemishes. To put that in perspective; my Denons, which hinges are all metal, feel much more fragile than the Sonys. 

post #377 of 1831
I own the XB1000 and have previously owned the XB700. I really like them, and I've recently tried the newer XB800 (I think it was) in a Sony store in the US. They were decent but not nearly as good as the old series. They were not too bad TBH and I think people hate on them(with good reason) just because the older better series isn't really available.
post #378 of 1831
Hey guys, I just ordered the JVC SZ-2000. Though there seem to be a lot of mixed feelings about these phones, it's only 200 shipped from Japan, so I decided to give it a shot.

The reason it's only 200 right now is because tenso and rakuten are doing a deal where if you buy something over 10,000 yen though rakuten, tenso will ship internationally free. I am fluent in Japanese, so I this was no problem for me.

PS. This deal is only good through the 26, so if anyone would like to buy something and needs my help navigating the Japanese, I'd be more than happy to help.

I'm thinking either the TH-600 or DJ signature will be more what I'm looking for, but I'm gonna try this jvc first!
Edited by nipponbiki - 5/18/14 at 3:27pm
post #379 of 1831

If you would, let me know what you think of the SZ2000. I'm thinking about picking one up in the next few months and I'd be interested to hear your impressions on em.

post #380 of 1831
Any deal through rakuten is a bad deal. Unless you like having your credit card info stolen.
post #381 of 1831
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post
 

 

Yeah, they are bassy, however, they're not monsters. For instance, my XB's have all been monsters in comparison. The UE6000 is a bass monster imo. The Ultrasones, nah. Bassy? Sure, just not monsters. Also, they aren't especially EQ-friendly. The Pro 900's have other qualities though; I have never ever heard a headphone render synths as good as the Pro 900, that pairing was amazing.

 

Thanks mate, I'm eagerly waiting for sonic comparisons.

 

I think personally that the XB's have gotten a bad rep around here, but I enjoy them a lot. Also, yeah, I know what you mean by that "plasticky" - they feel fragile, however I've accidentally dropped them a few times and they survived without blemishes. To put that in perspective; my Denons, which hinges are all metal, feel much more fragile than the Sonys. 

Ok, sorry for delay - Sunday is a family affair for me and we all head to our folks house for Sunday roast and always end up chatting into late evening.

 

My personal order of SQ between these three cans goes like this:

 

1. JVC SZ2000

 

2. SONY XB910

 

3. JVC HA-MR77X

 

Sound testing set up, I used microsoft surface pro with iTunes playing track Roxanne by Police, iTunes EQ setting on flat, connected to Fiio E17 portable amp with bass and treble settings both on 0 (flat).


The SZ2000's sound to me to be the most balanced out of all three, taking into account that these are all basshead cans, with a more refined general SQ.  The mids and highs appear to have been compensated to account for the bass to ensure they don't get recessed behind it.  The result is a balanced articulate sound that is a pleasure to hear.  On thing that did occur to me with these cans during this small testing was the clamping force being the strongest out of these three cans, so prolonged listening sessions may prove uncomfortable, however I have yet to do an ear pad change and test was made using stock pads.  
 

The SONY XB910's come closely behind the SZ2000's only mids and highs not quite as prominent as the latter, with vocals sounding slightly veiled behind the bass.  The bass on these cans to me is a warm lushness quality though and I love playing Trance and Goa PSY EDM through these cans.  I find these cans by far the most comfortable to wear, and though they feel a little cheap due to amount of plastic used in build, they certainly don't look cheap at all, IMO.

 

The JVC HA-MR77X's SQ has recessed mids and highs, both tucked behind a prominent bass.  Comparing these cans with the other two, vocals sound distant and generally less engaging, but for the price these cans go for, I'd say the SQ is very good for the low outlay, and EQing may resolve the recessed mids and highs.  

 

Initially I intended to perform test plugging each can directly into Surface Pro without using any amplifier, however when connecting the 77's to surface pro, the connection failed, only working when plugged into E17 amp, which is strange as they had worked fine previously when directly plugged into source device, but same bad connection ocurred when plugging directly into my iPad, so I've no idea what is causing this issue, but this highlights the problem of cans that come with fixed audio cable, as if detachable I could have used another cable as possible remedy solution.  The issue appears to be the 3.5mm jack and not the cable itself, but what's causing this, I have no idea.  I don't know if any other 77 owners have experienced similar, but its a disappointment for sure to an otherwise excellent basshead can being sold at an amazing value price.

 

I hope my basic comparative sound musings are of some help to you :) 


Edited by cb3723 - 5/19/14 at 5:58am
post #382 of 1831
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Originally Posted by RoMee View Post

Any deal through rakuten is a bad deal. Unless you like having your credit card info stolen.

Thanks for the heads up - making head-fiers aware of bad vendors is definitely a positive.

post #383 of 1831
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post
The SONY MDR-XB910 & JVC HA-MR77X are recommended to be added to headcan bass list smily_headphones1.gif

 

Done and done.

 

Another quality post from you, thanks mate!

 

EDIT: I just saw the Bowers and Wilkins P7 on the list - I vote to remove it.

 

I only heard them briefly, and what I heard was definitely not basshead.

 

If anyone wants anything else removed, let me know, I shall flag it! @gelocks I can't find your post with your removal recommendations (sorry).


Edited by White Lotus - 5/18/14 at 4:35pm
post #384 of 1831
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


How you enjoying your HP-DX700's?

They look identical to the HP-DX1000's apart from yours having darker wood ear cups - I bet the perceived difference in sound between these two is minimal as from what I could see, the difference in price between them was marginal.

Personally, I love my 1000's and along with the SZ2000 & 77's, I'm quite a new fan of JVC altogether smily_headphones1.gifcool.gif

 

I don't find them particularly pleasing from an aesthetic standpoint (they stick out too much, way too long cable, pads are not the best, and I feel like I have to extend their 'arms' too much) but they actually sound quite good! I want to directly compare to my modded Denon D5000s when I have the time. Their sound signatures are not really similar but I want to check bass weight for both. Bass is plenty powerful on the JVCs and I'm actually quite surprise that even though it has big bass, they don't really ruin the music listening experience for me (i.e. I can listen to any genre without having to change headphones :)).

post #385 of 1831

I will certainly give my impressions when they finally get here.

 

A note about Rakuten, though.

Not that I am defending them, but they are not a vendor, just a portal service. You buy things from individual stores registered with Rakuten, and you don't necessarily have to have an account with Rakuten. You don't have to pay with a credit card either, Paypal is accepted, and most Japanese just wire the money directly from their bank account to the stores account.

 

However, there are some benefits of buying through (not from) Rakuten. When I was living in Japan, I bought many things through Rakuten, and I bought an iPod nano from one store, which just took my money and ran. Rakuten stepped in and refunded the money to me on behalf of this store that just took a bunch of people's money and ran. I had to go to the local police station and fill out a report, but that was it.

 

I am not sure what exactly you were referring to, but I don't think it is necessary to scare people away from them. Just use Paypal, or make your payment directly with whatever store you choose if you are concerned about credit card issues.

 

I wonder how long it will take for everything to get processed before they are finally on my head....

post #386 of 1831
Thread Starter 

BASSHEAD CLUB

Official List update:

 

 

I've just gone through each can on the full-size list, and fetched the MSRP from different sources.

 

A few things:

 

1. I think we should do continuous voting, to determine if there are cans that should or should not be on the list. I saw a couple that I personally feel need to be voted on. I can place the "Cans currently being voted on" at the top of the OP, and to vote ,you simply just comment your vote in the thread.

 

2. How does everyone feel about this layout? This is just for the $0-$100 section:

 

Brand: Model: MSRP:
Audio Technica WS55 Solid Bass $99.00
AKG K81 DJ $99.00
Creative Aurvana Live! $99.00
Denon DN-HP1000 $89.00
JBL J55 $99.00
JVC HA-S4X $60.00
JVC HA-M5X $90.00
Monorprice MHP-839 $65.00
Panasonic RP-HTF600 $60.00
Philips CitiScape downtown $99.00
Philips CitiScape Shibuya/Metro  $49.00
Prodipe Pro800 $40.00
Sennheiser PX-100-II $89.00
SkullCandy Hesh-II $60.00
Sony V55 $80.00
Sony XB200 $30.00
Sony XB300 ??
Sony XB400 $60.00
Sony XB600 $99.00

 

 

3. The sections:

I was thinking something along the lines of:

  • $0-$100
  • $100-$200
  • $200-$300
  • $300-$400

etc etc.

 

How does everyone feel about this all so far?

post #387 of 1831
I like it
post #388 of 1831

+1

post #389 of 1831

Wow. I totally haven't been doing any work lately...I'm so ashamed at myself...

Great job on the list! Looks like we're gonna have to resort to fancy graphs now. :D

post #390 of 1831

Looks good

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