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post #361 of 1827
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

So you want sort of a balanced sound with boosted bass?
Those are a bit hard to find! LOL
You could look into:

Ultrasone Signature Pro (used... better value)
MrSpeakers Mad Dogs Pros
Shure SRH1540
M-Audio Q40 (though they might be brighter than the SEs)
Final Audio Pandora Hope VI

Those pop-up out of my head at the moment. The rest are more v-shaped than you'd probably like.
From your list, I don't find the Alpha Dogs as "bassy" and although the Momentums are "Ok", I wasn't particularly wow'ed by them (in fact, I liked their ON-EAR version more even though it was more bloated and softer in the high freqs). Haven't tried the Pro 900s but bear in mind that THE ARE V-Shaped... Haven't tried the P7s either so cannot say anything about them. smily_headphones1.gif

Hopefully more people might recommend others! Good luck! smily_headphones1.gif


Well, slightly v-shaped might be ok, I don't know, but as I mentioned before, I have the mid turned down the most by -3.5 dnb. But the 535 apparently showcase mids, so maybe this much subtractive EQ just balances it out? Not sure about that.

Thanks for the suggestions though, will look into it.
post #362 of 1827
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Originally Posted by cripple1 View Post
 

Since I've joined the lounge there have been 2 cans that I've become interested in the most, and both are by JVC. A few of you mentioned the JVC SZ2000 (REALLY intersted in these and might pick up a pair), but has anyone hear had the JVC HP-DX1000? I am SUPREMELY interested in these and would appreciate any impressions anyone could provide.

 

I had the SZ2000s, and currently have (like right now on my head) the HP-DX700s (DX1000 brother).

The DX kicks the SZ all over the place in OVERALL sound signature, detail retrieval, sound stage and imaging, etc. etc. BUT, if you are looking just for BASS MONSTERs, then the SZ wins especially when boosted/equalized down low.

 

Good luck!

post #363 of 1827

I'm looking for something that'll give me bass like 2 15" subs in a ghetto hooptie just for the fun of it, but if I can find something that does everything well overall, AS WELL AS givie me some monster bass, I'd probably choose that unless the former was cheaper. Know anyone who might allow me to demo some SZ2000's or DX1000's?

post #364 of 1827
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Originally Posted by cripple1 View Post
 

I'm looking for something that'll give me bass like 2 15" subs in a ghetto hooptie just for the fun of it, but if I can find something that does everything well overall, AS WELL AS givie me some monster bass, I'd probably choose that unless the former was cheaper. Know anyone who might allow me to demo some SZ2000's or DX1000's?

I'm not sure theres such a can. Yet

post #365 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

My w1000x has great initimacy and detail, it even has a mid bass hump... you might like it espically with a tube amp that has well a bass boost! 

 

I started to read some reviews on that one, and well, it apparently has a huge drop below 50 Hz, so that won't work for me I am afraid.

Thanks for the suggestion though!

post #366 of 1827
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Originally Posted by PocketSmiley View Post
 

But if EQ isn't your thing, that is understandable too. I wish you tried this test track, as it sounds impressive with the 77X. Would've loved to see a comparison with the MDRX10 as I once considered getting that as recommended by @HiFiGuy528 in his video (he owns the complete original XB series as well as the new one!).

 

Hmm, I didn't think of trying to beat it into submission with heavy EQ. But the awful fit (namely the inability of the cups to seal to my head) was also a dealbreaker.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post
 

Thank you my friend. You just saved me a fair amount of money. I've been contemplating the 77's to further broaden my view on bassy headphones, but seeing as how I love the X10's/XB910's (same headphone, different colors, AFAIK) I'm going to rethink that acquisition. I've had the XB70AP on my mind as well, because I own the XB90ex, and would like to know how this newer model compares. I really dig the XB90ex, however, it's pretty big in size and wouldn't be optimal for working out. I have three Meelectronics headed my way as well, so as you can imagine, I was really thinking if the 77's would be a worthwhile investment and as the fifth pair of headphones in one month, I think your comparison of them vs the X10 seals the deal: they will have to wait for another time when the wallet holes aren't as sparse.

 

As for the Pro 900's, you're not really missing out on anything special imo. I know they have a huge reputation for being bass monsters. They aren't. Your X10's has more punch and more quantities of bass. What I'm saying is that they are overrated as bass headphones. However, they are hugely underrated as "normal" headphones (where the bass isn't the main objective) -- they sound fantastic with certain types of music. That's also their biggest achille's heel: they only sound fantastic with a certain type of music and sound pretty crappy with everything else. When you realize that they only sound fantastic with roughly 10% of your music collection, that's when you realize that you can live without them. And, again, as said, when it comes to bass I think they're vastly overrated and the "normal" bassy $150 headphones of today are better in every way (think Ultimate Ears 6000, Sony X10, and so on...).

 

Hmm, looks like I dodged a bullet then. I would have been pissed if I had gotten those first two 900s and they didn't come close to the versatility of my DT770s. I pulled out my X10s for more testing and their bass indeed is almost comparable to the (now-returned) 77s, so I'd say stick with them. Honestly, I've always liked Sony headphones. I may just get another X10 as backup bass monsters to the 1540s, or explore more of their lineup (but I it seems unlikely that anything else they currently make trumps the X10s in that regard).

post #367 of 1827
Thread Starter 

So, what do we think, guys?

 

We can keep the existing list in a spoiler bracket, 

 

then have a pricing system separated by tiers in a separate section..

 

With our without MSRP will be fine, I'll need to source them anyway for the tiers. The tier system will also (hopefully) offset the fluctuation of prices a little.

 

How does this sound?

post #368 of 1827
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

So, what do we think, guys?

 

We can keep the existing list in a spoiler bracket, 

 

then have a pricing system separated by tiers in a separate section..

 

With our without MSRP will be fine, I'll need to source them anyway for the tiers. The tier system will also (hopefully) offset the fluctuation of prices a little.

 

How does this sound?

Great idea! It makes things less cluttered in the final product.

post #369 of 1827
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Originally Posted by cripple1 View Post

Since I've joined the lounge there have been 2 cans that I've become interested in the most, and both are by JVC. A few of you mentioned the JVC SZ2000 (REALLY intersted in these and might pick up a pair), but has anyone hear had the JVC HP-DX1000? I am SUPREMELY interested in these and would appreciate any impressions anyone could provide.

Pretty much what gelocks posted already v
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

I had the SZ2000s, and currently have (like right now on my head) the HP-DX700s (DX1000 brother).
The DX kicks the SZ all over the place in OVERALL sound signature, detail retrieval, sound stage and imaging, etc. etc. BUT, if you are looking just for BASS MONSTERs, then the SZ wins especially when boosted/equalized down low.

Good luck!


I have both cans you refer to and they are a bit like chalk and cheese in comparison to each other - SZ2000 is a no holds barred basshead headphone and a fine example if not the finest example of bass cans available today, whereas the DX-1000's is more audiophile balanced sound, though with a warmness, light years away from the bass slam that the SZ2000 shines with. The DX-1000 is far more detailed, bigger soundstage etc, that you would expect from an audiophile can.

CHALK


CHEESE (The refined type though - of course)
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On a totally unrelated matter - this track hits pretty nicely - currently listening to it with SONY MDR-XB910's directly connected to iPad with EQ set on "Electronic" - max vol and cans start to vibrate a bit on head - this is pretty nice to listen to - I'm in the bass zone alrighty smily_headphones1.gifbiggrin.gifcool.gif


ps - just recently picked up these SONY MDR-XB910's, and I find them surprisingly good - they are a bit plasticky in build and the on ear pads have been criticised, but they actually work and fit very well. The centre of each ear pad has a centred circular material that you can see through to drivers and when you put cans on, your ear lobe area kind of sinks into the centred material, which gives a better seal than you would initially expect just by looking at the pads initially.

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See on above pic where it says "Extra Bass/Extra Basses" on top right of box - how cool if they changed to:
"We control all your basses"? - lol biggrin.gif

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The SONY MDR-XB910 & JVC HA-MR77X are recommended to be added to headcan bass list smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by cb3723 - 5/18/14 at 7:17am
post #370 of 1827
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

I had the SZ2000s, and currently have (like right now on my head) the HP-DX700s (DX1000 brother).
The DX kicks the SZ all over the place in OVERALL sound signature, detail retrieval, sound stage and imaging, etc. etc. BUT, if you are looking just for BASS MONSTERs, then the SZ wins especially when boosted/equalized down low.

Good luck!

How you enjoying your HP-DX700's?

They look identical to the HP-DX1000's apart from yours having darker wood ear cups - I bet the perceived difference in sound between these two is minimal as from what I could see, the difference in price between them was marginal.

Personally, I love my 1000's and along with the SZ2000 & 77's, I'm quite a new fan of JVC altogether smily_headphones1.gifcool.gif
post #371 of 1827
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post




The SONY MDR-XB910 & JVC HA-MR77X are recommended to be added to headcan bass list smily_headphones1.gif

Yeah, I quite like the Sonys. Could you do a speedy comparison between the XB's, 77X's and the SZ-2000? Trying to contemplate which JVC could possibly become a new investment. It seemed that the 77X's wasn't on par with the X10's (same as XB910), but if you could objectively clarify differences between the three.

post #372 of 1827

Any1 got any ideas how much of a bass response the Mad Dog Pros have? Have been unable to find any measurements yet.

post #373 of 1827
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post


Pretty much what gelocks posted already v
I have both cans you refer to and they are a bit like chalk and cheese in comparison to each other - SZ2000 is a no holds barred basshead headphone and a fine example if not the finest example of bass cans available today, whereas the DX-1000's is more audiophile balanced sound, though with a warmness, light years away from the bass slam that the SZ2000 shines with. The DX-1000 is far more detailed, bigger soundstage etc, that you would expect from an audiophile can.
 
CHALK


CHEESE (The refined type though - of course)
DSC_0785.jpg

On a totally unrelated matter - this track hits pretty nicely - currently listening to it with SONY MDR-XB910's directly connected to iPad with EQ set on "Electronic" - max vol and cans start to vibrate a bit on head - this is pretty nice to listen to - I'm in the bass zone alrighty smily_headphones1.gifbiggrin.gifcool.gif
 

ps - just recently picked up these SONY MDR-XB910's, and I find them surprisingly good - they are a bit plasticky in build and the on ear pads have been criticised, but they actually work and fit very well. The centre of each ear pad has a centred circular material that you can see through to drivers and when you put cans on, your ear lobe area kind of sinks into the centred material, which gives a better seal than you would initially expect just by looking at the pads initially.
 
DSC_1395.jpg

See on above pic where it says "Extra Bass/Extra Basses" on top right of box - how cool if they changed to:
"We control all your basses"? - lol biggrin.gif

DSC_1399.jpg

The SONY MDR-XB910 & JVC HA-MR77X are recommended to be added to headcan bass list smily_headphones1.gif

Can I borrow the SZ2000? :D

What stand is that that they are on by the way?

post #374 of 1827
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

Yeah, I quite like the Sonys. Could you do a speedy comparison between the XB's, 77X's and the SZ-2000? Trying to contemplate which JVC could possibly become a new investment. It seemed that the 77X's wasn't on par with the X10's (same as XB910), but if you could objectively clarify differences between the three.

I'll do a quick sound comparison test between all three cans shortly for a more accurate comparison on the sonics.

My thoughts ahead of sound test are:

SZ2000 - big, heavy, solid build, stock ear pads recommended to be replaced for improved comfort, shame about fixed cable.

77X - Full size but lighter than SZ2000's, handy rotating arm for DJ application, outstanding value for money, fixed cable seems a running theme with JVC as it is also here.

XB910 Lightest out of all three, exceptional sleek form fit factor, I think they look stylish, very comfortable, build is let down by mostly plastic used and can feel a little fragile, so need to be looked after - not as robust as the JVC' s, cable is removable with twist lock feature. Fold into a convenient size for travel unlike the JVC's. Best for portable use out of all three IMO also.

In UK the SZ2000's are most expensive priced around £240-£250, the XB910's are priced around £130-£140 and 77's by far the lowest best value priced around £60

Back shortly with sound comparisons between these three bass beasts wink.gif
post #375 of 1827
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Originally Posted by AudioNoob101 View Post

I've heard the original XB line is much better (300,500,700,1000) Infact I tried out a pair of the newer XB's (don't believe it was that model in particular) but I couldn't demo them at all because they were so poorly built they did not work and had completley fallen apart,the Skullcandy and Beats right next to them were all holding up much better,even though they're crap.

Yeah, I've got the older range XB700 & XB1000 cans.

Build quality on the XB910's is very plasticky, but I personally like these cans as they have other attributes in the plus.
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