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post #271 of 1843
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

While a good idea, I already feel sorry for White Lotus.

 

Don't stress about me mate! I'm more than happy to go along with the groups decision.

 

If we get a few more people voting for prices, I'll start adding them to the list when I get time (probably Sunday - Tomorrow night I'm doing a lighting show for Kolsch)

 

It will be a long job, but I'm more than happy to do it for the sake of the group.

 

post #272 of 1843
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Well street prices aren't exactly practical or even doable. Amazon prices fluctuate more often than my mood swings, and I'm bipolar. MSRP is probably the only doable alternative.

While a good idea, I already feel sorry for White Lotus.

Perhaps just some crude estimation or categorizing of the prices and a link to camelcamelcameltoe or Amazon or something like that.

I know. I was thinking maybe we could chip in with some of the price lists. That way, all White Lotus has to do is copy and paste. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to do a few Google searches, right?

 

Best to work as a group, right? I should really get started.

post #273 of 1843
^Agreed. I think that's a good idea. Arranging headphones according to price ranges will surely help newbies and beginners. I'm more than happy to help btw, but what prices are we listing? MSRP or Street price?
post #274 of 1843
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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

^Agreed. I think that's a good idea. Arranging headphones according to price ranges will surely help newbies and beginners. I'm more than happy to help btw, but what prices are we listing? MSRP or Street price?

Coq de Combat and I suggest using MSRP since, as he said:

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 Well street prices aren't exactly practical or even doable. Amazon prices fluctuate more often than my mood swings, and I'm bipolar. MSRP is probably the only doable alternative.

 

So, MSRP it is. I've already gotten started with the first ones. I though the format would be something like:

 

[Brand]
Model: $price ($actual price) [source]

 

I added an actual price since I rounded it up to the nearest 5 or 10. So here are the ones I got:

 

 

[AIAIAI]
TMA-1:$285 ($283.64) [source]

 

[Audeze]
LCD-2: $1145 [source]
LCD-3: $1945 [source]

 

[Audio-Technica]
ES7: $170 ($169.95) [source]


Edited by thatBeatsguy - 5/15/14 at 7:52am
post #275 of 1843

I'm actually a bit confused about the list...  LOL

 

The thread is "audiophile-bass" lounge but:

 

1) we have headphones with bloated bass (definitely not audiophile bass for the purists if that's the thread's intention)

2) we have headphones that personally I don't believe are "basshead" capable (i.e. Downtowns, M4U!?!?!?!, Momentum, Aviator, V55, M80s, etc. etc.)

 

so this doesn't seem to be either a basshead list nor a audiophile basshead list either... :-p

post #276 of 1843
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

I'm actually a bit confused about the list...  LOL

 

The thread is "audiophile-bass" lounge but:

 

1) we have headphones with bloated bass (definitely not audiophile bass for the purists if that's the thread's intention)

2) we have headphones that personally I don't believe are "basshead" capable (i.e. Downtowns, M4U!?!?!?!, Momentum, Aviator, V55, M80s, etc. etc.)

 

so this doesn't seem to be either a basshead list nor a audiophile basshead list either... :-p

LOL. You make a solid point. So, you're saying that the list needs some...cleaning up, is that what you're trying to get across? If so, then there's a lot more work coming to ya, White Lotus! :D 

 

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. The list in the thread was made up by all sorts of users, and White Lotus just added them. There's a good chance someone considered some cans as basshead-friendly, but that's only coming from their opinion. 

 

Oh yeah, another thing. The first post mentioned something about this trhead:

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 I'd like to make this thread specifically for discussion of:
  • Bass oriented headphones (Over-ear/on-ear/in-ear)
  • Bass capable portable DAPs
  • Any DAC/amps that have bass worth mentioning
  • Gear recommendations for new or existing users
  • Images of bass headphones and/or bass-oriented audiophile gear. 

It didn't mention pure basshead cans specifically, so I think that's why the list is rather...varied. But that wouldn't make it an "Audiophile Bass Lounge," now would it? So if White Lotus confirms that, then why don't we add a categorization for its bass quantity/quality? This would take some time to develop, but I was thinking of adding labels to the ends of the model names to identify what type of bass it has. We would pretty much need everyone here on this thread...but that'd only make it more awesome.


Edited by thatBeatsguy - 5/15/14 at 8:20am
post #277 of 1843
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

 

Don't stress about me mate! I'm more than happy to go along with the groups decision.

 

If we get a few more people voting for prices, I'll start adding them to the list when I get time (probably Sunday - Tomorrow night I'm doing a lighting show for Kolsch)

 

It will be a long job, but I'm more than happy to do it for the sake of the group.

 

Oh well, we can always help when we find the time. I don't think you should be doing all the work by yourself, and there are other benefits to "crowdsourcing", such as getting the community involved and interested and perhaps finding new interesting headphones on the horizon that we could've missed otherwise. I don't know about you, but I tend to miss about 99% of the headphones that aren't talked about on head-fi.

 

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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

I know. I was thinking maybe we could chip in with some of the price lists. That way, all White Lotus has to do is copy and paste. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to do a few Google searches, right?

 

Best to work as a group, right? I should really get started.

Exactly, good idea. Nice work on those you've already found. Make sure to report if you find other interesting headphones as well, so I don't look like an idiot for using that as an argument. ;)

 

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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

I'm actually a bit confused about the list...  LOL

 

The thread is "audiophile-bass" lounge but:

 

1) we have headphones with bloated bass (definitely not audiophile bass for the purists if that's the thread's intention)

2) we have headphones that personally I don't believe are "basshead" capable (i.e. Downtowns, M4U!?!?!?!, Momentum, Aviator, V55, M80s, etc. etc.)

 

so this doesn't seem to be either a basshead list nor a audiophile basshead list either... :-p

Actually, I think you're supposed to see this thread as the spiritual successor to The Basshead Club minus the arguing and mudslinging. So, what worked in that thread (headphone wise) will possibly work here as well.

 

Except for a hostile approach to your fellow head-fiers. Seeing as that's why The Basshead Club got canned in the first place, I assume that it didn't work very well in that old thread either. Some people tried though, and that's why we're here now.

 

Anyway, in terms of headphones I think the ones in that list are supposed to be bassy or EQ:able headphones sorted by brand and use. No further categorization or sorting. Like it used to be in the basshead club.

 

The current way they are sorted is kinda good IMO. Breaking it down even further will only make for extremely sparse categories, i.e:

 

Blue colored Bassy headphones from Germany that are EQ:able in price range blahblah:

  • Sennheiser Amperior

 

Silver colored Bassy headphones from Germany that are EQ:able in price range blahblah:

  • Sennheiser Amperior

 

And so on, ad nauseum.

 

Keep it concise, add some more info if need be, such as price, but other than that could just overly complicate things. Especially when 90% of this hobby are subjective opinions (what's audiophile bassy or bloated to you may not be audiophile bassy or bloated to someone else, etc.).

post #278 of 1843
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


And your point?

HOW DOES IT SOUND???????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

I've not heard any one getting Lawton Mods on a TH900! How does it improve you must SHARE THIS WITH US 

post #279 of 1843

I like the idea of prices, but MSRP is a bad idea. Manufacturers will often bloat the MSRP to make the item appear more expensive so that the actual price looks much more favorable in comparison. A price range will do...if it's more it is more, if it is less...then it is less. Newbies should be able to understand that prices fluctuate, but using the MSRP might turn them away from a very good option simply because the MSRP is complete BS at times. Also, a bass rating out of 10 for quality and quantity as well as punchy/boomy would be extremely helpful. The amps are a little outdated as well, like the iBasso has discontinued the T4 and now has the T5, the Hippo Box+ seems to only be available with special deals that seem like a scam, the M cubed is a DIY project, etc.

post #280 of 1843
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Originally Posted by xskugga View Post
 

I like the idea of prices, but MSRP is a bad idea. Manufacturers will often bloat the MSRP to make the item appear more expensive so that the actual price looks much more favorable in comparison. A price range will do...if it's more it is more, if it is less...then it is less. Newbies should be able to understand that prices fluctuate, but using the MSRP might turn them away from a very good option simply because the MSRP is complete BS at times. Also, a bass rating out of 10 for quality and quantity as well as punchy/boomy would be extremely helpful. The amps are a little outdated as well, like the iBasso has discontinued the T4 and now has the T5, the Hippo Box+ seems to only be available with special deals that seem like a scam, the M cubed is a DIY project, etc.

You want a bassy amp get the Fiio E11, want something cleaner than that with some nice UMPH in the low end, grab the iBasso PB1 am terminate your headphones to hiRose to get the best sound out of it, you want something BETTER than the pb1 get the Pb2 :3, that's quiet literally the path I've taken with my portable amps the E11 was $50, I got my used pb1 for around $75 and my used pb2 cost me around $250 [had some custom op amps and what not] 

post #281 of 1843
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Originally Posted by xskugga View Post
 

I like the idea of prices, but MSRP is a bad idea. Manufacturers will often bloat the MSRP to make the item appear more expensive so that the actual price looks much more favorable in comparison. A price range will do...if it's more it is more, if it is less...then it is less. Newbies should be able to understand that prices fluctuate, but using the MSRP might turn them away from a very good option simply because the MSRP is complete BS at times. Also, a bass rating out of 10 for quality and quantity as well as punchy/boomy would be extremely helpful. The amps are a little outdated as well, like the iBasso has discontinued the T4 and now has the T5, the Hippo Box+ seems to only be available with special deals that seem like a scam, the M cubed is a DIY project, etc.

Yes, that would, but how do you suppose we format it? I'm having a hard time thinking about that.

How about something like [P6-B9] of a punch rating of 6 and a boom rating of 9. Or how about something that measures quantity, like [S3-M6-U4], with S as sub-bass, M as midbass, and U as upper bass. Any suggestions? 

post #282 of 1843
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Yes, that would, but how do you suppose we format it? I'm having a hard time thinking about that.

How about something like [P6-B9] of a punch rating of 6 and a boom rating of 9. Or how about something that measures quantity, like [S3-M6-U4], with S as sub-bass, M as midbass, and U as upper bass. Any suggestions? 

well there really is no upper bass, that's getting into your low mids at that point, mostly Sub and Mid, around 150 you get into meat or mid

 

either way, I like the Sub Mid rating system, 

post #283 of 1843
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Originally Posted by Coq de Combat View Post

Anyway, in terms of headphones I think the ones in that list are supposed to be bassy or EQ:able headphones sorted by brand and use. No further categorization or sorting. Like it used to be in the basshead club.

 

The current way they are sorted is kinda good IMO. Breaking it down even further will only make for extremely sparse categories, i.e:

 

Blue colored Bassy headphones from Germany that are EQ:able in price range blahblah:

  • Sennheiser Amperior

 

Silver colored Bassy headphones from Germany that are EQ:able in price range blahblah:

  • Sennheiser Amperior

 

And so on, ad nauseum.

 

Keep it concise, add some more info if need be, such as price, but other than that could just overly complicate things. Especially when 90% of this hobby are subjective opinions (what's audiophile bassy or bloated to you may not be audiophile bassy or bloated to someone else, etc.).

 

Fair enough.

post #284 of 1843
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

You want a bassy amp get the Fiio E11, want something cleaner than that with some nice UMPH in the low end, grab the iBasso PB1 am terminate your headphones to hiRose to get the best sound out of it, you want something BETTER than the pb1 get the Pb2 :3, that's quiet literally the path I've taken with my portable amps the E11 was $50, I got my used pb1 for around $75 and my used pb2 cost me around $250 [had some custom op amps and what not] 

Thanks for the recommendation, I most likely will go with either the E11 or higher end models, the PB1 however is discontinued...and bass is really what I am looking for as I can get a more HiFi sound from the audio software I use.

 

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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Yes, that would, but how do you suppose we format it? I'm having a hard time thinking about that.

How about something like [P6-B9] of a punch rating of 6 and a boom rating of 9. Or how about something that measures quantity, like [S3-M6-U4], with S as sub-bass, M as midbass, and U as upper bass. Any suggestions? 

Both should be done if possible, the more info the better someone can make a decision.

post #285 of 1843
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Originally Posted by xskugga View Post
 

Thanks for the recommendation, I most likely will go with either the E11 or higher end models, the PB1 however is discontinued...and bass is really what I am looking for as I can get a more HiFi sound from the audio software I use.

 

Both should be done if possible, the more info the better someone can make a decision.

The pb1 is pretty common on Used for sale threads 

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