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post #136 of 1835
Noted that the Monster on ear DNA are already listed, but they also have a lesser known big brother over ear variant which as expected by virtue of larger ear cups leading to a better seal, have a larger more airy sound, which is noticeably different to the on ear DNA, but still well within the bass can remit smily_headphones1.gif
post #137 of 1835

post #138 of 1835
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post

Noted that the Monster on ear DNA are already listed, but they also have a lesser known big brother over ear variant which as expected by virtue of larger ear cups leading to a better seal, have a larger more airy sound, which is noticeably different to the on ear DNA, but still well within the bass can remit smily_headphones1.gif

I've added your note to the DNA's on the list.

 

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Keep them coming man - these are fantastic.

:beerchug: 

 

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They are VERY heavy bass, much like the Sennheiser HDJ 8's and 7's.  Better in my mind but comfort is not great and fit is slightly weird.  Because of those two factors I personally don't rank them very highly, especially compared to D7000 or TH900.  Just my opinion of course.  They certainly don't lack bass...........

Ever used those Fostex cans with the Digizoid ZO products?

 

I tried them with my girlfriends Denon D5000, really made some great impact. A worthy matching. I think she's going to steal my ZO 2.3 from me now, however :( 

 

EDIT: 

 

an opportunity to show off my new toys:

 

Unique Melody:

MERLIN

 

 

 

 

 

Inside each enclosure/ear:

2 x Balanced armature drivers for midrange

2 x Balanced armature drivers for highs

1 x Dynamic driver for BASS.

 

Straight off the bat, they have a balanced yet warm sound, with a slight mid and subbass hump. But thanks to the dynamic driver, they can be EQ'd to thump your eardrums into submission. What I really love about them, is not just the solid impact of a kick, but the constant ability to hold on to a visceral bassline for dear life. I've lately really gotten into hybrids, mainly because the low-end (usually) responds so much better to boosting than a lot of balanced armature drivers do.

 

@svyr


Edited by White Lotus - 4/30/14 at 10:22pm
post #139 of 1835
Lol I too was heavily eqing the bass on merlins to get massively huge bass. Still liked the rdb mini impact more but Merlin has a very appealing sweet mids and highs tuning to me
Edited by svyr - 5/1/14 at 3:38am
post #140 of 1835

Yeah, BAs aren't exactly the best way to go for bass impact. I do however enjoy my Klipsch x10's. The bass isn't as elevated as many other IEMs and is mainly heard, not felt, however the sound quality is pretty good and the comfort is the best I've experienced yet. Of course, not that they should be compared to the Merlins, but in general, BA's lack in bass impact.

 

I've been thinking some about Cosmic Ears CIEMs, not only due to their pricing, but also because the fellow making them isn't that far from here - maybe an hour or so.

 

It seems that he doesn't have hybrids any more, for whatever reason, but perhaps he can be persuaded by a fellow Stockholmian. ;)

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Although, I'm in no hurry or need for another headphone, and other interests are quickly eating my wallet ATM.
post #141 of 1835
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post

Noted that the Monster on ear DNA are already listed, but they also have a lesser known big brother over ear variant which as expected by virtue of larger ear cups leading to a better seal, have a larger more airy sound, which is noticeably different to the on ear DNA, but still well within the bass can remit smily_headphones1.gif

 

The new DNA Over-Ears are NOT basshead cans at all!!!

The Shure SRH1540s (which I consider borderline basshead) ate the DNA Pro Over-ears for lunch... just clarifying...

post #142 of 1835
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post

The new DNA Over-Ears are NOT basshead cans at all!!!
The Shure SRH1540s (which I consider borderline basshead) ate the DNA Pro Over-ears for lunch... just clarifying...
I've never considered DNA as basshead cans. Completely flat and hollo. Completely strips the bass out of songs
post #143 of 1835

The DNA on-ear, on the other hand, is awesome.

post #144 of 1835

question here, what is a subwoofer? is it just a regular dynamic driver, dedicated to low frequencies, or is it made different somehow? does the allocation of frequencies make the woofer, or is it a physical aspect? or both?

 

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Unfortunately there seems to be a WICKED cutoff at like 50Hz which renders them useless.

50 Hz is pretty low. if you look at an "equal loudness curve" youll see that our ears barely perceive the very low frequencies at all, and youd need alot of volume in order to hear them. im not saying they arent important, im just saying that you may find theyre not nearly as important as you think. i know the basshead club is kind of a weird place to say this, especially as someone who puts all the eq emphasis on the sub bass region, and mostly neglects the "mid" bass, contented with what the headphones have. but any lower than 50 Hz and you cant really hear it, only feel it, which does count, but not for that much. many artists dont even include frequencies that low to begin with. i know that when i downloaded a sinewave generator and played around i really learned alot, and it definitely put things into perspective for me. to tell the truth, i couldnt really hear anything below 50 Hz or above 17.5 KHz... just goes to show how much volume you really do need, because at the time i was using dt 770s for the test, which supposedly can produce those frequencies... 
 

post #145 of 1835

If you can't hear 50Hz and under then your ears are broken. 20Hz is the audible cutoff and from 30-50 is where all of the hip-hop basslines hang out. Like, 50 is not that low. At all. You can ABSOLUTELY hear under 50Hz, even with substandard speakers. 

 

As for subwoofers, they're drivers intended with more power placed into lower frequencies. It's in the mechanics of it. Try and make an 8" subwoofer play high frequencies versus a 6.5" midrange. You'll notice that there is a WILD difference, and it's not the small difference in cone area, because that 8" sub can play the same range as the 18" sub in the same model line. 


Edited by SomeGuyDude - 5/1/14 at 10:27am
post #146 of 1835
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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post
 

50 Hz is pretty low. if you look at an "equal loudness curve" youll see that our ears barely perceive the very low frequencies at all

50Hz is actually quite high in the bass frequency range, that's only JUST in the sub-bass frequency. If you couldn't hear 50hz, you wouldn't actually get the audible "THUD" of bass drums or the pure bass from, well, a bass.

 

Listen to any song that utilises a Roland TR-808 drum computer with a long decay, or (if available) listen to the pure sine carrier frequency from a Yamaha DX or Casio VZ synthesizer. They fall all the way to 20Hz (and lower, in the case of the two synthesizers) and the pure sine waves are perfectly audible at that frequency.

post #147 of 1835
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Originally Posted by gelocks View Post
 

 

The new DNA Over-Ears are NOT basshead cans at all!!!

The Shure SRH1540s (which I consider borderline basshead) ate the DNA Pro Over-ears for lunch... just clarifying...

 

Are you saying the on ear DNA's are basshead cans and the over ear DNA's are not - or that DNA's as a whole on and over ear are not basshead cans?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702928/review-monster-dna-pro-phenomenal-sound-poor-fit


Edited by cb3723 - 5/1/14 at 12:06pm
post #148 of 1835
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

If you can't hear 50Hz and under then your ears are broken. 20Hz is the audible cutoff and from 30-50 is where all of the hip-hop basslines hang out. Like, 50 is not that low. At all. You can ABSOLUTELY hear under 50Hz, even with substandard speakers. 

 

As for subwoofers, they're drivers intended with more power placed into lower frequencies. It's in the mechanics of it. Try and make an 8" subwoofer play high frequencies versus a 6.5" midrange. You'll notice that there is a WILD difference, and it's not the small difference in cone area, because that 8" sub can play the same range as the 18" sub in the same model line. 

True, try playing a test CD with some frequency sweeps and you can definately and easily hear 50Hz. On my speaker setup I stop hearing things and the house starts to shake at about 20Hz.

post #149 of 1835
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post
 

 

Are you saying the on ear DNA's are basshead cans and the over ear DNA's are not - or that DNA's as a whole on and over ear are not basshead cans?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702928/review-monster-dna-pro-phenomenal-sound-poor-fit

 

I can only speak of my experience with the DNA Pro's over-ear (I haven't tried their on-ears).

And to me they were weak enough to call them bass-head cans. In fact, I actually found them quite pleasant without really emphasizing anything... I might have written some notes somewhere here on head-fi but I don't even remember because they didn't gain enough of my attention... Not bad, but they did not really excel at anything. Prefer the Monster N-Pulse to the DNA Pros overall.

post #150 of 1835
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post
 

 

Are you saying the on ear DNA's are basshead cans and the over ear DNA's are not - or that DNA's as a whole on and over ear are not basshead cans?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702928/review-monster-dna-pro-phenomenal-sound-poor-fit

 

I'm saying that the on-ear are and the over-ear aren't. The Sennheiser Momentums are the same way. The over-ear DNA do NOT have the bass of the on-ear. 

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