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Headphones for metal music - ultimate solution
Nov 22, 2014 at 8:37 PM Post #286 of 12,280
levap said:
   
AKG K712 PRO
 
Initially I had an idea to listen 712 in comparison with 812, but at the first test it became clear that there is no sense in such a test. 812 and 712 are animals of obviously different levela (a top top level and a top middle level) and different character (ultra-bright with an average soundstage and darkish with a wide scene). Next I tried to compare 712 to Denons D600, again it made no sense, at fast switch from cans to cans it was too obvious, that D600 have very "non-flat" character. As a result I listened 712 in parallel with Senns 650. And in my opinion result are not in favor of 650, objectively, without discounts for a personal taste.
 
The character of cans a bit darkish, cool (as a matter of a fact I expected something brighter), fast and accurate. Relative darkness doesn't affect resolution, detail level is quite high. Mids are natural and have cold spirit. Soundstage is wide, not such a stadium as Senns 800 have, but scene is much wider than average, cans are airy . Headphones have enough bass for heavy genres, often there was a wish to get more slam, but generally we have enough of low frequencies. It seems reasonable to assume, that increase of bass pressure would lead to problems with a soundstage air
 
Positive
Symphonic: Natural niche for 712. Very broad soundstage, moderately sparkling treble, cool mids, adequate bass and flat overal balance.
Power: Space, speed. Compact and quite sufficient bass. Bit of brightness for fun. 
Industrial: Accurate and cold. Nice infrabass extention. Quantity of a bass - good or great? Perhaps Ultrasone 2900 Industrial interpretation is better, but if you to compare to any other middle level colleague - it's perfect.
Sludge, Stoner: There is no such a hard requirements to quantity of a bass as on Doom. Great mids, wide soundstage and easy sound flow make gestalt response with genre.
Black: Perfect - accurate, quick, with great bass control. It would be possible to add some punch on low frequencies, but then "air" would dissipate perhaps.
Progressive: It is predictably great. Vast soundstage, cool, technically perfect. 
 
Negative
Doom: There is no enough bass concentration (surprisingly just a little).
Death: Somewhat strange, but even more sharp transients, than 712 have, would be welcomed here and it would be great to add some bite at treble.
Grindcore: Here we seriously lack the bass slam, a wide sounstage becomes an obstacle for great Grindcore performance.
 
Overall, in my opinion, 712 today are the best cans for heavy genres on the middle level.
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I can't agree more. The 712's are amazing cans for the price. Very wide soundstage that keeps things under control. 
 
Nov 23, 2014 at 2:06 AM Post #287 of 12,280
levap said:
   
Overall, in my opinion, 712 today are the best cans for heavy genres on the middle level.
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Hi, can you tell what amp and DAC you used for the test? 
 
Nov 23, 2014 at 4:00 AM Post #288 of 12,280
Nov 24, 2014 at 5:38 AM Post #290 of 12,280
Nov 24, 2014 at 6:38 PM Post #295 of 12,280
swspiers said:
You are full of surprises!
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Yes sir
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I can't believe that I'm back with a pair of Audeze headphones!  (It's going to be my 4th pair of LCD-2 and I have also had 3x different pairs of LCD-3 and 1 pair of LCD-X.)
 
Nov 24, 2014 at 6:42 PM Post #296 of 12,280
ytsejamer said:
   
Yes sir
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I can't believe that I'm back with a pair of Audeze headphones!  (It's going to be my 4th pair of LCD-2 and I have also had 3x different pairs of LCD-3 and 1 pair of LCD-X.)
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I might start calling you 'Jay', from the Grado thread...
 
Nov 25, 2014 at 1:15 AM Post #298 of 12,280
Nov 25, 2014 at 5:38 AM Post #300 of 12,280
levap said:
  Unfortunately they're not present in current plans
 
Abyss review is in progress now.
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So far, I think the Primes aren't optimal for metal across the board, which seems to be the bent of this thread.  They do nothing to enhance low-fi, mediocre recordings.  Some of the charm of our beloved music is the intentionally primitive techniques involved.  The Primes are an absolutely honest presenter, and as such, aren't the most "fun".
 
I stand by the 400i as the ultimate metal headphone for my ears and tastes. They goose just enough warmth, yet retain exceptional detail across the board.
 
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