Originally Posted by qwert23
I want to know ProtegeManiac about spending 1000 on SE846 or 500 on SE535? Assume that there is no warranty.
Like I said, I'd rather spend $600 on a custom IEM than $1,000 on a universal IEM. Universal IEM shells can break too, and if they're damaged without warranty or past the 1yr period, what do you do? Reshelling them can alter the sound; even wearing the wrong tips if you can't get a hold of the tips you like would. If you get a custom IEM and it fits perfectly (note that some have had to ship them back for reshelling) then that's done. If you do need to reshell them, like if you stepped on them and cracked the shell (which, again, can happen to a universal IEM anyway), or if your ears still changed shape after two years or more, then you just ship them back to the manufacturer and you get the same sound back, which is great if you like them already. Also, while this may not apply to a lot of people, some eartips can be itchy due to their texture, so for people like that, the smooth acrylic of a custom IEM is a great thing. You can always ask around and see if anyone has had the Shure or tried it, then ask what CIEM sounds a lot like it. That or you can email Shure and ask them if they can honor international warranty, but personally, for $1,000 I'd rather get custom IEMs, and like I said you won't even need to get near that for the CIEM, shipping, and ear impressions.
Originally Posted by qwert23
I'll never listen to music in home just on street or when thinking on my projects in parks or public places where is crowd. And i hardly take my phone so i cant even imagine carry around an amp. the use will be 20% on walking 80% sitting in public places. And it's 4 hours a day in average for 2 years so i really want something good and durable because the warranty issues is nightmare on shures and sennheiser is only a year.
And I travel from cold places to really hot and humid places so i want something really durable.
In any case, why among universals are you only looking at these two? In audio, when you go past a certain price point, diminishing returns really kicks in - at that point it's more a matter of specific needs as much as it is absolute performance. If what you need is something you can easily lug around and has great sound, not to mention easily driven by a smartphone or other general-purpose device without an external amp, there are many universal IEMs out there that work great, starting with the SE535 (they kind of hiss with some sources though). There's also the UE900 or the UM3X for example and they aren't going to break the bank.
In my case I was saving up either for customs or, as I was thinking at the time, the AKG K550 if I got impatient and a good deal on a used one came my way (headphone, but folds flat and has good isolation). Then I got lucky and found an Aurisonics ASG-1 selling for half the MSRP+shipping. It's a custom-like shell but the bore still uses a universal-type eartip. I tried them out, and discovered that the great thing about these is that the custom-like shell anchors to my outer earlobes, instead of having the pressure on the eartip itself, so they don't itch as much even with foam ear tips (I still prefer smooth plastic tips). They also came with an Otterbox as packaging, so while some find that bulky, I always have a messenger bag with me anyway, so I don't have issues lugging them around. I can keep these things in my ears for hours if I'm in a cold room (so my ears don't sweat and later itch), like when I'm working in the library or any office in our university, then step out into the tropical climate still wearing them, and no issues. I have a Sennheiser HD600 reference system at home and this comes close enough considering I'm using a smartphone for it. The only reason why I didn't add this to the list above is that the treble rolls off a little too early, but personally, all the pros outweighed it. The point is that you don't necessarily need to throw $1,000 at an IEM particularly if warranties are iffy; heck over here at least the Shures have two years, but the local distro had issues going back and forth between two companies when I had to replace my SE210. You're in an even worse situation that that. Maybe if it was a good deal on a used amp I wouldn't look for any warranty, but that will sit in my home relatively safe (my cats are locked out of my bedroom and home office); you will have to lug these around. To me no warranty or iffy policies (like if the local distributor is known to absolute try to blame it on you to weasel out of it) are a huge problem for something you intend to use on the go. My graphics card doesn't leave the house but I make sure I get six months warranty, minimum, since I don't know if its cooling system might have issues with the case I'm using.