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Thanks I looked at the Goldenwave... And wow very tempting, very nicely engineered! i want to keep the TEAC PD501as the source it's a wonderful CD player, where I am unhappy is the headphone amp of the AI-501 but also the rather dry in-built DAC. as I bought an Ibasso DX90 last month in Hong Kong I connected this wonderful DAP through RCA cables to my AI501 and wow the dual ES9018 chips beat the TEAC AI-501 DAC hands down.....so basically either I use the ibasso as a temporary DAC and buy a nice headphone amp first such as the A28 or I buy a DA8 Or D200 (it's cheaper...but are they really similar?rolleyes.gif) or the AK4390 fuelled Goldenwave AND a headphone amp....with this respect I saw a Violectric V200 clone at$300 on taobao, from accurate audio model a200...and as far as google translate goes theV200 and its clone are pretty close in performance.....

Goldenwave has some decent products, and headphone amp is their strong suit, both Amper and GA09 represents the best you can get from China boutique shops at their price range. I think we should support reputable companies such as Yulong, Goldenwave, Audio-Gd, Hifiman for the original effort they invested in develop their own products, and to show my minimum support, I don't want to talk about clones, and will stir away from them even I can't afford something better.

I owned DX50, DX100 and X5, and am familiar with DX90, which is closer to X5 in performance, but below DX100 if you were using the line out of these DAP to feed into a headphone, but still, D200 beats my DX100 hands down, right now I am using these DAP as transport feeding coaxial to my D200 only,

Regarding DA8 vs D200, I think if you are using them as standalone unit, then I'll be hesitate to pay for the different and will stay with D200 instead. However you were to use them as DAC only and will have a headphone amp down the chain, then I certainly will recommend the DA8 instead, In other word, the build-in amplifier of DA8 and D200 is a bottleneck that stop you from full appreciate the advantage of DA8 over D200, Yes, they are different, yes, the DA8 is better, but you won't hear that much if you didn't unleash their full power with a headphone amp.
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Curious, just took a look at the Goldenwave GA09 and it looks like a beast of an amp.

 

I always found it interesting how perception of certain companies differ from country to country. Among the Chinese brands, how do Auralic and Questyle fare in China when compared with Yulong, Goldenwave, Audio-GD, and Hifiman?

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Andy do you think  this 4 pin female to 2*3 pin male adapter would fit the DA8 or D200 to conned a balanced  headphone? 

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I do feel more power is preferred when dealing with Alpha Dog

 

What do you mean? Not enough headroom for volume? Loss of dynamics and bass?

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Hey guys!  Guys can you tell me what will be better for Fostex TH900 D200 or DA8? and if i buy D200 there will be enough for the built-in amplifier fo Fostex TH900? 

Thanks for the advice!! 

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Hey guys!  Guys can you tell me what will be better for Fostex TH900 D200 or DA8? and if i buy D200 there will be enough for the built-in amplifier fo Fostex TH900? 

Thanks for the advice!! 

I would go for DA8 - I find TH600\TH900 a bit on a bright side. Looks like DA8 amp has smoother sound signature. But it's just me. And since I can't afford DA8 now, D200 is my choice. :)


Edited by GigArt - 6/2/14 at 5:47am
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I see there's a few with both the DA8 and D200. How do their dac portions compare? I might be in the market for a new dac and just looking at my options.

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I would go for DA8 - I find TH600\TH900 a bit on a bright side. Looks like DA8 amp has smoother sound signature. But it's just me. And since I can't afford DA8 now, D200 is my choice. :)

 

Agreed. D200 seems a better choice for something like HE-400 or LCD-2. It's not bad with the Fostex, but DA8 is better. 

 

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I see there's a few with both the DA8 and D200. How do their dac portions compare? I might be in the market for a new dac and just looking at my options.

 

Still trying to figure that one out. Seems like the DA8 still pulls ahead but depending on the system, D200 may actually be a better fit. It's a little more flat/neutral sounding compared to the DA8 which is warmer, smoother, more "analog" sounding (I hate that description but there it is). 

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Project86 you make us even more curious:D when do you think you can compare DA8 vs D200 in more detail rolleyes.gif?
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Still trying to figure that one out. Seems like the DA8 still pulls ahead but depending on the system, D200 may actually be a better fit. It's a little more flat/neutral sounding compared to the DA8 which is warmer, smoother, more "analog" sounding (I hate that description but there it is). 

 

I've found that synergy is tough to figure out. With my previous setup I had a slightly warm dac, warm amp and warm headphone and it sounded amazing. I remember having a neutral dac and it didn't sound as good. If you get the chance can you try the D200 on your Stax setup and how that goes compared to the DA8? I'm assuming you have tried that on  your Stax setup already so you should have a good idea how that sounds.

post #146 of 304
i found this review comparing Matrix DACs with the very same ES9016 and ES 9018 chips... Looks like ES9018 better matches 'bright' headphones like HD800 is said to be. just received my HD540 ii, marvellous and said to be similar to HD800 sound signature. so I guess DA8 might be a better choice than D200 even if the price tag is double ....smily_headphones1.gif
http://www.head-fi.org/products/matrix-mini-i-2014/reviews/10549
post #147 of 304

Received my yulong D200 2 weeks ago. My current set up Yulong D200, Lafigaro 332s, seinnheiser hd 650, connected by usb cable to laptop. I think standalone amplifier would do fostex TH 900 more justice. I'm not an audiophile. But i would say the difference is miles apart with and without an standalone amplifier. 

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FYI, it seems Kidult Online is having a promo this month - a free Copper Colour Penny power cables to come with the D200, DA8 & A28.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=879407198742678

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Received mine a few days ago. I find it has a little but clearly more laidback/smoother sig than D100/A100. Still beautifully clean. Controlled is a word that comes to mind too. Like a grown up Yulong. I keep going back and forth between the two setups for a while.

 

A reminder, don't think that setting volume at 0.0dB equals 0 volume. I nearly blew my ears and headphone to bits. Also, did anyone get a volume knob that has a few millimeters of room when tapping left-right-top-bottom? I did and that's a -1 for Herr Yulong right there.

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