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post #1 of 13
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Hi, I'm new here and decided to join after looking around on google for headphones for my music types. I've got a AUD $250-300 budget for a headphone and was wondering what good options there are at that range for pop music and electronic in particular.

 

I mainly listen to mainstream stuff like Iggy Azalea, Charli XCX, Ellie Goulding, Katy Perry, Rihanna - you get the picture. My electronic stuff is things like house, drum and bass and dubstep as well as a bit of chill stuff. I've dabble a little bit in Kpop and like Girls Generation, 2NE1, 4Minute and a fair few others. I really only listen to female vocalists tbh.

 

I've seen amazon people say you need an amp? I've seen a power to volume rating on some pages, I'm assuming that you need an amp if that is low? 

 

Also with the headphone recommended will I need an amp? I can buy one in a few weeks time, but only would be looking around $150-200 for an amp. 

 

BTW I'm in Tasmania Australia, so its not really good to have to buy from overseas... any Australians to give us advice?

post #2 of 13

Do you have any preference for what you mainly after, in terms of sound signature? What have you owned in the past?

 

Are you using them only at home or also on the go? If you are only using your headphone at home then something like the Beyerdynamic DT770 might do for you. The DT770 (80ohm) is the bassier version if that is what you feel you want most. Also at that price the Audio Technica A900X is a very good option for female vocals and for those types of genres. On the go, the V Moda M100, Sony MDR 1R and Audio Technica ES10 are close to budget, and will be fine out of an ipod, or at a stretch maybe phone.

post #3 of 13
There is the logitech ue 6000 if you're looking for something extra bass with noise cancelling.
Some other noise cancellers that get a good rating psb m4u 2, sony mdr1nc, polk audio ultrafocus 8000, and the akg k495nc
Edited by zunehdrocks - 4/15/14 at 10:28am
post #4 of 13
If you're a fan of iems you might want to check out the v sonic gr07 be, rha ma750, and the shure se series
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/shure-ear-series-se215-se315-se425-and-se535-page-2

http://www.head-fi.org/products/vsonic-gr07
post #5 of 13
If you want something more neutral, there is the shure srh 940.
http://www.head-fi.org/products/shure-srh-940
http://www.whathifi.com/review/shure-srh940
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by UNIFi View Post
 

Do you have any preference for what you mainly after, in terms of sound signature? What have you owned in the past?

 

Are you using them only at home or also on the go? If you are only using your headphone at home then something like the Beyerdynamic DT770 might do for you. The DT770 (80ohm) is the bassier version if that is what you feel you want most. Also at that price the Audio Technica A900X is a very good option for female vocals and for those types of genres. On the go, the V Moda M100, Sony MDR 1R and Audio Technica ES10 are close to budget, and will be fine out of an ipod, or at a stretch maybe phone.


+1

post #7 of 13
I'd recommend the ES FC300. My second favorite closed can under $350. Nice bass, good balance, nice treble balance, good detail. They isolate slightly better than the 1r.
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by UNIFi View Post
 

Do you have any preference for what you mainly after, in terms of sound signature? What have you owned in the past?

 

Are you using them only at home or also on the go? If you are only using your headphone at home then something like the Beyerdynamic DT770 might do for you. The DT770 (80ohm) is the bassier version if that is what you feel you want most. Also at that price the Audio Technica A900X is a very good option for female vocals and for those types of genres. On the go, the V Moda M100, Sony MDR 1R and Audio Technica ES10 are close to budget, and will be fine out of an ipod, or at a stretch maybe phone.

 

Going to be listening at home, so I was something that is comfortable, and has a good cord length for being able to lay on my bed to listen from my computer. I don't listen to music outside of my house, my high school is only a couple of blocks from me. 

 

I def want a headphone with good powerful bass, and I don't want tinny highs or anything like that. It has to be exciting to listen to, not boring.

 

I only ever have had Ipod earbuds, or cheap Sony before. I began reading about *audiophile* headphones a few month ago on amazon, and have been looking into them. Its been pretty confusing at first, but I only understand some of the terms like headstage, "imaging" and transients in theory not prac. 

 

I'm looking at DT770 and A900 on amazon, the DT770 I've read a bit about but many reviews seemed to be very much about gushing over the purchase not comparing or talking about the music I listen to. Most talk about genres I do not really like, so its a bit difficult to grasp its qualities, furthermore without a reference point! However from looking on this site it seems to be a bit of a beast at electronic, right... 

 

I do not really like the look of the A900 flaps or whatever they are, wouldn't they slide down your head? I definitely don't want on ears design, my old Sony hps were on ears and I found them too uncomfortable, itchy and I ended up with sore ears.

 

The Vmoda are a bit higher than what I can spend, unless you think I do not need an amp at all or that they better the DT770. I'm listening out of a HP computer at home, which has "beats audio" preinstalled, all I see from this program is very unclear sound which is much clearer once turned off and returned to normal tone controls. Still my Sony E475 seems to sound better than listening to the same 320kps files from my computer. it actually sound better than listening to FLACs, which makes them useless for me right now. I have read that a DAC is like the equivalent to being some sort of external soundcard or so I'm led to believe - so it would sound better if I got one? 

 

Like I said earlier I can go for $200 on a DAC or amp, but might need to get a bit of guidence here as well.


Edited by Mouldy Cheese - 4/15/14 at 11:29pm
post #9 of 13

Ok Here goes

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Originally Posted by Mouldy Cheese View Post
 

 

Going to be listening at home, so I was something that is comfortable, and has a good cord length for being able to lay on my bed to listen from my computer. I don't listen to music outside of my house, my high school is only a couple of blocks from me. 

 

I def want a headphone with good powerful bass, and I don't want tinny highs or anything like that. It has to be exciting to listen to, not boring.

 

I only ever have had Ipod earbuds, or cheap Sony before. I began reading about *audiophile* headphones a few month ago on amazon, and have been looking into them. Its been pretty confusing at first, but I only understand some of the terms like headstage, "imaging" and transients in theory not prac. 

The DT770 has a cable that is around the 3 meter mark in length, which should be about 3 times the length of typical consumer headphone cables - if that gives you an idea of what to expect.

The bass is the strong suit of the model along with the sound stage for a closed headphone at the price. It was shock you coming from a low baseline in sound quality.

 

Soundstage (headstage) is basically how wide, tall and deep the sound of the music recording or performance is. For orchestra the soundstage is desired to be large and very expansive to understand or get the feeling of being there in a concerto or live performance and get the sense of the hall size, ambiance, and amazing size of such music. For metal music many people enjoy headphones with smaller and more upfront presentation, basically what one would expect from being in the front rows of a concert. Think about this, imagine your house music on one headphone where the sound is narrow and very up front, then imagine the sound coming from around and outside your head itself and feeling as if it is much more 3d. Imaging plays a part in this as it is the headphones ability to put instruments in their own spaces and how accurately it may do so, good imaging also means instruments will be separated well and you can follow each instrument line on its own in recordings, something that cheaper headphones can struggle with.

 

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Originally Posted by Mouldy Cheese View Post
 

 

I'm looking at DT770 and A900 on amazon, the DT770 I've read a bit about but many reviews seemed to be very much about gushing over the purchase not comparing or talking about the music I listen to. Most talk about genres I do not really like, so its a bit difficult to grasp its qualities, furthermore without a reference point! However from looking on this site it seems to be a bit of a beast at electronic, right... 

 

The DT770 is one of the best, easiest to recommend electronic and pop headphones around at the price. Many amazon reviews are rather lacking in the amount of information provided or lack of comparison, however there are still many very good reviews there. Best to type into the search box above this page, and check out the reviews of headphones on this site. Not only that but other websites you may not be aware of yet like Innerfidelity or Headroom.

 

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Originally Posted by Mouldy Cheese View Post
 

 

I do not really like the look of the A900 flaps or whatever they are, wouldn't they slide down your head? I definitely don't want on ears design, my old Sony hps were on ears and I found them too uncomfortable, itchy and I ended up with sore ears.

They are actually very light headphones and unless your head is tiny I have not found Audio Technicas to slide off my head, and I'm only a small person. The DT770 and A900X are both pretty comfortable, but the Beyerdynamics are exceptionally so in my experience.

 

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Originally Posted by Mouldy Cheese View Post

 

The Vmoda are a bit higher than what I can spend, unless you think I do not need an amp at all or that they better the DT770. I'm listening out of a HP computer at home, which has "beats audio" preinstalled, all I see from this program is very unclear sound which is much clearer once turned off and returned to normal tone controls. Still my Sony E475 seems to sound better than listening to the same 320kps files from my computer. it actually sound better than listening to FLACs, which makes them useless for me right now. I have read that a DAC is like the equivalent to being some sort of external soundcard or so I'm led to believe - so it would sound better if I got one? 

 

Like I said earlier I can go for $200 on a DAC or amp, but might need to get a bit of guidence here as well.

 

I personally rate the DT770 over the M100, but lets not get to much into that as you have not heard either. Beats audio applies a massive bass boost to your playback, no wonder it sounds like crap. Basically what a dac is, is a device that converts digital, I.E 0101010 binary into analog signals that can be amplified and sent into speakers and headphones. Your computer has a dac and amp inside of it already, otherwise it would not be able to play back the analog signals to your headphones. I do believe that an Dac and Amp are needed in your case. A cheap and pretty good little combo unit like the Aune T1 would do nicely for you, not only that being a small tube amp it will smooth out the main weakness of the DT770 and that is a sometimes harsh treble. I'm not confident your computer would have the grunt for the headphone without.

If you are going to think of the T1 I mentioned, get the DT770 (250 ohm) version as the T1 has a 10 ohm output impedance and the damping factor of the 250 ohm will be on the safer side.

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

Damping factor?

 

Considering all of what youve said I think I will buy it and the Aune as it fits with my budget. Thanks ^_^

 

Looking forward to listening

post #11 of 13

The only problem with the dt770s is the recessed mids (which is a problem with a lot of bass emphasized stuff)

Oh wait...

Dt770 editions all sound different...

I was talking about the pro 80 so nevermind

Here are some reviews for the 250 ohms

http://www.head-fi.org/products/beyerdynamic-dt-770-pro-closed-studio-headphones-250-ohms


Edited by zunehdrocks - 4/16/14 at 11:49am
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by Mouldy Cheese View Post
 

Damping factor?

 

Considering all of what youve said I think I will buy it and the Aune as it fits with my budget. Thanks ^_^

 

Looking forward to listening

Damping factor is the difference between output and the speaker's impedence (electrical resistance). The higher the damping factor, the "quicker" the headphone is. Think of it like this: When a signal is stopped, the driver and diaphragm will move back faster when there is a higher damping factor. Theoretically, a higher damping factor will increase clarity and bass speed, but there is a point where you are overdoing it (you can search 1/8 damping rule to find out more). There is also the fact that headphone drivers are so much smaller and they are much less susceptible due to driver size compared to bigger speakers, so a lot of the time it doesn't even matter.

 

But overall, it shouldn't be a big deal


Edited by zunehdrocks - 4/16/14 at 12:10pm
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