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DT 990 PRO 250 vs SoundMAGIC HP100

post #1 of 26
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I already own the ATH M50 and V-Moda M80s and I have enjoyed both of them very much. I'd have to say I prefer the more treble and bass oriented sound of the ATH M50s over the smoother and darker sound of the V-Moda M80s. I will be picking up a new pair of headphones in the next 10 days and I'm torn between either of these. I know that one is open and the other is closed but neither of these facts will make a difference in my purchase, I'm just looking at pure sound quality. How do the sounds of each of these compare? I enjoy rock, EDM, RnB, and jazzy/classical music. I'd have to say rock and EDM are the bulk of my music library.

post #2 of 26
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Well, it's been 24 hours so I'm just going to give this thread one bump and one bump only. Can anyone offer opinions on either of these headphones? 

post #3 of 26

I don't know about the DT990s, but the Soundmagics are very neutral and linear so I don't know if you would like them a lot compared to the V-shaped M50s you enjoy.

post #4 of 26

990's are pure bass and pure mids, for some its fatiguing after 20 minutes. 

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Originally Posted by GettingBuckets View Post
 

I don't know about the DT990s, but the Soundmagics are very neutral and linear so I don't know if you would like them a lot compared to the V-shaped M50s you enjoy.

Really? Thanks very much for the input. I'm not looking for a neutral headphone so I guess that rules out the HP100.

 

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Originally Posted by Folex View Post
 

990's are pure bass and pure mids, for some its fatiguing after 20 minutes. 

Interesting response Folex. I've heard most people say the 990s had overly bright treble (which I tend to enjoy), and strong bass giving the mid range a back seat. Maybe production has changed?

post #6 of 26

I have compared these two headphones. Please keep in mind that I'm a happy owner of dt's and hp100 I heard were not burned in. I might not be as objective as You would desire:)

In my impression these are way different headphones. Dt 990 have really really wide soundstage. Hp100 as well akg 550 (which i was comparing at the same time) sounds awfully congested in comparison. Sound in hp100 and 550 is more linear than loudness-oriented dt990. All of these headphones did well when listening to marcus miller. The main difference for me is soundstage.

 

You can always equalize to dt990 to linear characteristics using foobar. After that they sound like senn hd650 just with full, punchy bass and wider soundstage. If You throw at the metallica S&M it will be hard to believe it is headphones You are listening to. Honestly. These are my favorites.

 

In a punch line I would say that when it comes dynamics, spectrum reproduction dt990 and hp100 and 550 perform pretty similar, but with proper equalization dt990 crushes them in an aspect of musical show reproduction. The more sounds You throw at them the more obvious it becomes that a close headphone will always fall back in terms of imaging. Almost the same as open headphone should lack bass. But dt990 doesn't lack bass at all.  So if the isolation isn't Your main concern and You have inears for subway this shouldn't be a brainer. Any downfall of a dt990 signature can be track-preequalized.

post #7 of 26

Hi,

 

DT990s are great headphones. Being high impedance headphones they need extra amplification to show their strengths.

 

With poorly recorded (modern) music (compressed/low dynamic range), this headphones can sound overly bright and sibilant, specially with poorly recorded voices.

But paired with a good quality headphone Amp (Fiio E10 can do the job, a nice tube amp would be great) and high quality recordings, this headphones sound really natural, with amazing detail retrieval, transparency and less "headphone-like" sound compared with most headphones in its price range.

 

Best Luck!

post #8 of 26
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Originally Posted by oscar_dziki View Post

I have compared these two headphones. Please keep in mind that I'm a happy owner of dt's and hp100 I heard were not burned in. I might not be as objective as You would desire:)
In my impression these are way different headphones. Dt 990 have really really wide soundstage. Hp100 as well akg 550 (which i was comparing at the same time) sounds awfully congested in comparison. Sound in hp100 and 550 is more linear than loudness-oriented dt990. All of these headphones did well when listening to marcus miller. The main difference for me is soundstage.

You can always equalize to dt990 to linear characteristics using foobar. After that they sound like senn hd650 just with full, punchy bass and wider soundstage. If You throw at the metallica S&M it will be hard to believe it is headphones You are listening to. Honestly. These are my favorites.

In a punch line I would say that when it comes dynamics, spectrum reproduction dt990 and hp100 and 550 perform pretty similar, but with proper equalization dt990 crushes them in an aspect of musical show reproduction. The more sounds You throw at them the more obvious it becomes that a close headphone will always fall back in terms of imaging. Almost the same as open headphone should lack bass. But dt990 doesn't lack bass at all.  So if the isolation isn't Your main concern and You have inears for subway this shouldn't be a brainer. Any downfall of a dt990 signature can be track-preequalized.

So you've tried all those phone with the same amp?
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
I extend my gratitude for the responses! I think I very well may pull the trigger on the 990s tomorrow. I'm feeling confident they will blow me away smily_headphones1.gif
post #10 of 26

There is something people overlook about Beyers ....Beyers are grain free , very few dynamics are able do that irrespective of the price ! 

post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by MrTechAgent View Post

There is something people overlook about Beyers ....Beyers are grain free , very few dynamics are able do that irrespective of the price ! 
DT880 sounds grainy compared to HP100, I even prefer HP100's mid to T1 when I did direct head to head (of course other than that T1 mostly win).
post #12 of 26
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DT880 sounds grainy compared to HP100, I even prefer HP100's mid to T1 when I did direct head to head (of course other than that T1 mostly win).

Well... if that's the case I will try to get my hands on it ! 

post #13 of 26

@LAON

 

With few amps at the same time. Also from X3 and one onkyo CD.My dt990 is a 250 ohm version


Edited by oscar_dziki - 4/21/14 at 11:17pm
post #14 of 26
Okay thanks, I agree that DT880/990 have better imaging and positioning than HP100 and K550 but I still prefer the cleaner mid of HP100 compared to them.
post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
My 990s will be coming in tomorrow. So excited! Does anyone have amp recommendations? Preferably under $70
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