or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Help and Getting Started › Introductions, Help and Recommendations ›  A 200 USD entry-level audio rig?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

A 200 USD entry-level audio rig? - Page 2

post #16 of 24

Open to buying used? 

post #17 of 24
Thread Starter 

yes, i wont mind but shipping cost seems ridiculous at times.

post #18 of 24

If you are located in the US, HD580s pop up for around $200 shipped sometimes. Yiu can't beat that. 

post #19 of 24
Thread Starter 

I am in asia .. sometimes in vietnam, sometimes in singapore. The best deal i can get so far is a brand new hd 558 for 160 USD. It's is from a listed Senn distributor so I bet i wont get fake ones.  

post #20 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by LePOPS View Post

Do HD 558 needs an amp? I can get it for 160 USD locally. I heard it is more bass-biased than the hd 598.
Both the 558 and 598 are 50 ohm headphones, so neither should really require an amp.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LePOPS View Post

Yes, I'm applying for Electrical Engineering at NTU and NUS in singapore. biggrin.gif
Good choice wink.gif (got my EE degree in 2011).

So what you should do is get into the analog stuff as soon as possible and you could be designing and building your own amps in no time!
post #21 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by superjawes View Post


Both the 558 and 598 are 50 ohm headphones, so neither should really require an amp.

By that logic HifiMan HE-6 should be just as easy to drive, won't it? (it shares the same 50ohm impedance)

As far as I know they're the most inefficient headphone in production and quite a lot of people power them with speaker amplifiers.

 

So obviously, impedance alone is not an accurate criteria for judging driveability. Driver efficiency (in tandem with impedance) is.

With 112db @ 1V efficiency both HD558 and HD598 should be perfectly fine out of most sources. The quality of the sound will obviously vary, but loudness should not be an issue even out of portable sources.

As a side note, HE-6 have 83.5db efficiency (it's not specified whether for 1V or 1mW), and you need double the power for a 3db increase in loudness.

You can make an estimate of how much more power HE-6 need to reach the same loudness as an HD598, for example.

You probably learned this in EE school, but forgot ;)


Edited by Jim Wingnuts - 4/15/14 at 5:41am
post #22 of 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Wingnuts View Post

By that logic HifiMan HE-6 should be just as easy to drive, won't it? (it shares the same 50ohm impedance)
As far as I know they're the most inefficient headphone in production and quite a lot of people power them with speaker amplifiers.

So obviously, impedance alone is not an accurate criteria for judging driveability. Driver efficiency (in tandem with impedance) is.
With 112db @ 1V efficiency both HD558 and HD598 should be perfectly fine out of most sources. The quality of the sound will obviously vary, but loudness should not be an issue even out of portable sources.
As a side note, HE-6 have 83.5db efficiency (it's not specified whether for 1V or 1mW), and you need double the power for a 3db increase in loudness.
You can make an estimate of how much more power HE-6 need to reach the same loudness as an HD598, for example.
You probably learned this in EE school, but forgot wink.gif
It's early for me, okay! And I haven't even had any coffee! T_T

But I was basing my statement more on the people I know who use them. The 558's and 598's are often recommended over in a techie forum, so I know that they don't need a dedicated amp from the experienece of others.
post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 

Good point.

 

Am I wrong to say than a  unamped Senn HD 558 will give me a SIGNIFICANT improvement over my current  Pana rp-htx7 and the Fischer Eterna? (I tried unamped hd 598, it did impress me )

post #24 of 24

HD598 is what I have right now but it has an unsightly thick adapter to make it 1/4th to 1/8th, wouldn't recommend for mobile application.

 

I'm gonna go full left field here and say get cheap earbuds.  I've had fun listening with the Brainwavz M4, the Klipsch Image X10, and the Sennheiser OCX 685i (for when i'm working out) out of my Galaxy S3 when I'm on the go.

 

The Klipsch seemed to have jumped in price, i remember when they were about $99 or so.  Can't say I'd recommend them for more, even though they retailed for over $300 lol.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Help and Getting Started › Introductions, Help and Recommendations ›  A 200 USD entry-level audio rig?