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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

I'm going to return it, X5 I may keep it doesn't have as artificial sound as the DX90.  It's just ridiculous how DX90 sounds.  I recommend people to stick with iphones than get eh DX90, it's not neutral at all.

That is a very strong statement. While I dont find the iPhone a bad device, I have been uding them for years as my on the go device as I cant be bothered to carry more than one device, I find the DX90 to be significantly better in all respects, even with 320kb aac and the few 256kb mp3 files I have allthough the lower down in file quality the smaller the difference. What kind of music and file resolutions do you base that on ?
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

That's good, I like to bring my honest impressions into this thread, good thing it's not an appreciation thread.  wink.gif  The reviews I like best are the ones with cons in it.  Didn't see that, with jamato's review.  Anyway, all my impressoins line's up with joker, AJ, and etc.. basically the most prolific reviewers, but for some reason not with the DX90..  Anyway, I stop following reviewers once I find out my impressions does not line up with theirs.  Anyway, DX90 is a return.  I was hoping for it to be my liking, but unfortunately it didn't.

Living in a small country like Denmark modt gear is not readilly available so many purchases have to be made blind. This is where reviews come in handy. Find reviewers who on previous occasions have had experiences that coincide with you own abd then use their oppinions on new gear as a guideline to what you might like. Over the years I have found jamato to be such a reviewer. So please stop making the insinuations that because his impressions dont match yours then he is not being honest.
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Living in a small country like Denmark modt gear is not readilly available so many purchases have to be made blind. This is where reviews come in handy. Find reviewers who on previous occasions have had experiences that coincide with you own abd then use their oppinions on new gear as a guideline to what you might like. Over the years I have found jamato to be such a reviewer. So please stop making the insinuations that because his impressions dont match yours then he is not being honest.

 

I'm in the same situation in Switzerland, I have to go through the reviews before buying, with the time spent on Head-fi I learned to know the valuable persons and make the right choices with respect to my tastes and inventory.


The DX90 is part of the purchases I do not regret. At this price the finish of the DAP and audio quality is exemplary. It may not appeal to everyone and that's okay, that's why there is so much choice, no need to denigrate a great device or review because it does not match personal expectations.

 


Edited by Migou67 - 6/7/14 at 3:26am
post #1263 of 3032
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Why did ibasso add so much bass?  It's definitely not neutral.  

The X5 by most reviews has more warmth and bass than the DX90. It also has more emphasized lower treble to offset it. To my ears, the DX90 sounds much more balanced and would be more revealing of associated files and phones. I find it a hair on the warm side but not nearly as weighty as the X5. I also very much trust Joker's reviews but don't agree with your opinion, which you are certainly entitled to. I think calling his name into this and then aligning with it when he hasn't commented on the device in question is silly and poor form, especially when used to discount the OP's opinion. Complaining about folks disagreeing with yours though allowing you to have it while not allowing jamato's his due to proclaimed bias is a bizarre take on this.

 

Glad you like your X5 and found a combo that works for you.


Edited by goodvibes - 6/7/14 at 5:37am
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The X5 by all reviews but yours has more warmth and bass than the DX90. It just has more emphasized lower treble that balances it out. To my ears, the DX90 sounds much more balanced. I find it a hair on the warm side but not nearly as weighty as the X5.

To me it's not a heir on the warm side.  It has a very artificial bass, and very significant with tracks that pushes bass.  I agree with the assessment that it emphasizes the lower treble, but there seems to be something missing besides it.  There is not mid definition, and I don't hear as much details.  The lower treble push, and the warmth creates a more of a U sig.

 

I have the NT-6 which is quite neutral, and it push out quality bass depends on the source.  I find X5 to be laid back across the spectrum which I conder as being more neutral as it doesn't get pushy, and it does provide perceived stage which is more realistic to my ears with live recordings.


Edited by SilverEars - 6/7/14 at 5:34am
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We all hear thing differently. What are you pairing the 90 with and how many hours are on it?
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Originally Posted by Poimandres View Post

We all hear thing differently. What are you pairing the 90 with and how many hours are on it?

Hidition NT-6, and 20 hours?  Hidition will pick up details.  This depends on the source of course.

 

 


Edited by SilverEars - 6/7/14 at 5:45am
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

To me it's not a heir on the warm side.  It has a very artificial bass, and very significant with tracks that pushes bass.  I agree with the assessment that it emphasizes the lower treble, but there seems to be something missing besides it.  There is not mid definition, and I don't hear as much details.  The lower treble push, and the warmth creates a more of a U sig.

 

I have the NT-6 which is quite neutral, and it push out quality bass depends on the source.  I find X5 to be laid back across the spectrum which I conder as being more neutral as it doesn't get pushy, and it does provide perceived stage which is more realistic to my ears with live recordings.

The x5 was what I stated pushed the lower treble. It's also warmer in the bass than the DX90. Please reread my post. At 20 hours on a high res IEM, you shouldn't be evaluating anything with it. My jh13s took well over 100 hrs to fall into place. until then, they had a midbass emphasis and the highs didn't sound as extended. I've listened to both devices with a number of phones. We can agree to disagree.


Edited by goodvibes - 6/7/14 at 6:10am
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The x5 was what I stated pushed the lower treble. Please reread my post. At 20 hours on a high res IEM, you shouldn't be evaluating anything with it. My jh13s took well over 100 hrs to fall into place. I've listened to both devices with a number of phones. We can agree to disagree.

Intersting...  So I need to burn them in.  I haven't burned in my brain yet, apologies. :D  X5 doesn't come with burn-in cables. :o


Edited by SilverEars - 6/7/14 at 6:16am
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Hidition NT-6, and 20 hours?  Hidition will pick up details.  This depends on the source of course.

 

 

Different scales or weighting but similar curves when considered. Looks to have a significant treble bump. It has a bit more midbass but less bass overall than my JH13s which rises at a steeper angle below 100hz. Run them hard for a few days and see if they don't change for you.


Edited by goodvibes - 6/7/14 at 6:26am
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Looks to have a significant treble bump. It has a bit more midbass but less bass overall than my JH13s.

The top graph is the recently made NT-6. :D  I got my graph in the envelope also which is the top graph, but tiny variation from it. recently made NT-6 pro is similar, but with more extend treble and some bass boost.


Edited by SilverEars - 6/7/14 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Intersting...  So I need to burn them in.  I haven't burned in my brain yet, apologies. :D  X5 doesn't come with burn-in cables. :o

Joker does. He also mentioned the treble. I guess you don't always agree. Only when it suits. You're allowed your opinion and we are to disagree. It's the 2nd part you're having issue with and belaboring this. I'm happy for you but you're not happy until we're not happy.


Edited by goodvibes - 6/7/14 at 6:29am
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Joker does. I guess you don't always agree. Only when it suits.

No, I agree with Joker's impressions because it lines up with what I hear every time. The NT-6 review and etc.. I don't always agree because I like to tell like how it is.  I don't understand what you mean by when it suits, as I'm very impartial, as I come here to give my impartial impressions. I do that with every thread if I feel that it needs objective balance. Or should I say, I state my impressions of what I hear.  Based on your posts, it seems like you are only defending the DX90.  Who is impartial here?


Edited by SilverEars - 6/7/14 at 6:40am
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I think the hm901 may be better but it's been a while since I heard it and think the AK120 competitive. I don't only defend the DX90. I just prefer it to what I personally found was a different than all of the above sounding X5. I actually preferred my HiSound to the X5 even though it has some bass roll. I'm not a warm it up kind of guy. Like I said, we can agree to disagree. It seems you are again calling other posters biased and laughing at sincere suggestions like run in which every good reviewer does to remove bias. Well done!

 

 You are certainly free to do as you please and it may not change your view in the least but it might be prudent to put a couple hundred hours on both your earphones and the DX90 before discarding the DX90.


Edited by goodvibes - 6/7/14 at 6:48am
post #1274 of 3032
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

No, I agree with Joker's impressions because it lines up with what I hear every time. The NT-6 review and etc.. I don't always agree because I like to tell like how it is.  I don't understand what you mean by when it suits, as I'm very impartial, as I come here to give my impartial impressions. I do that with every thread if I feel that it needs objective balance. Or should I say, I state my impressions of what I hear.  Based on your posts, it seems like you are only defending the DX90.  Who is impartial here?

I dont question that you hear what you hear. The problem is that you cant accept as valid or impartial that quiet a number of us hear things differently to you
post #1275 of 3032
Well we are all just ibasso fanboys.
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