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post #166 of 584
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As for ak240 vs hugo, a key consideration is whether you will use it on the go. I picked ak240 as I need it portable and pocketable. Personally I cannot even tolerate a ipod+amp stack so Hugo with a thick coaxial or optical cable with a source is ergonomically impossible for my use.

 

What I don't understand is many ipod users don't use an amp wallet like this one when an external amp is used. With an amp wallet, the whole thing is just like one piece of 1.5" thick or less. Highly portable even sometimes you need to throw the whole thing in your pocket.

 

IMO there is a fundamental benefit from using a stack, and that is to have separate/clean power and circuit for dap and amp section - assuming you do have a clean line out from your dap.


Edited by DMinor - 5/1/14 at 7:35pm
post #167 of 584
Im looking forward with the ipod+clas -db + duet versus each dap specially the dx90 and hm-901.. Hope youll get there too..
post #168 of 584
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Thanks for that. I'll give it a go today. I think it wont increase the power as much as it increases the volume. To allow for the EQ and other sound alterations, the DAP has to operate at a lower volume level, otherwise you'll get clipping at any frequencies boosted by the EQ. So I'm guessing that turning that off restores a -0db volume level in the unit. 

 

 

 

I'm sure you're right, but this is much more of a volume cut than usual. Maybe because sony has more sound alteration options. I also find that I do prefer sq with all daps I've heard when eq and other alterations are off. With the updated firmware I found I had to use a slightly different method to the one above. Make sure only  xLoud & Clear Phase are checked-then disable sound enhancements and then reboot. In my experience simply rebooting doesn't get rid of the volume boost-I have to first re-enable sound effects and then reboot.

post #169 of 584
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You are not alone in preferring jh13 over roxanne smily_headphones1.gif totally understand the weird feeling to prefer the cheaper model in this hobby!

As for ak240 vs hugo, a key consideration is whether you will use it on the go. I picked ak240 as I need it portable and pocketable. Personally I cannot even tolerate a ipod+amp stack so Hugo with a thick coaxial or optical cable with a source is ergonomically impossible for my use.

kkcc! Totally agree with you! My thoughts exactly! Really when I considered everything I realised what I wanted was the best sound quality possible in the most convenient, and mobile, package possible! Kind of bummed because it means I probably won't spend anymore time considering what sort of amps I could use - ;) - but ultimately the best solution! Feels kind of good to have got there!  

post #170 of 584
@designmaniac

If you're lucky, you could ask a few singaporeans if they could lend you their tralucent 1p2. I demoed one by meeting w it's owner. Also, do remember in SG there is K10, mentor, se846 etc, be sure to check local stores to see which place is best to go. Btw you can demo NT6 at null audio.
post #171 of 584
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A bit of OT while I wait for cables and adaptors: I prefer the UERMs to the Roxannes, because of the FR mainly, but the Roxannes have the advantage with the parallel drivers that they have a tonne of headroom for all those rock musicians who need to go loud without distortion since their hearing is shot. I don't listen loud so it is not an issue for me.

post #172 of 584
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A bit of OT while I wait for cables and adaptors: I prefer the UERMs to the Roxannes, because of the FR mainly, but the Roxannes have the advantage with the parallel drivers that they have a tonne of headroom for all those rock musicians who need to go loud without distortion since their hearing is shot. I don't listen loud so it is not an issue for me.

 

The UERM and K3003 are the most wholesome IEMs I've heard, even though the UERM doesn't quite have the sub-bass I want.

 

I think you'd like the K3003 if you sat down with it.

post #173 of 584
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

A bit of OT while I wait for cables and adaptors: I prefer the UERMs to the Roxannes, because of the FR mainly, but the Roxannes have the advantage with the parallel drivers that they have a tonne of headroom for all those rock musicians who need to go loud without distortion since their hearing is shot. I don't listen loud so it is not an issue for me.

 

The UERM and K3003 are the most wholesome IEMs I've heard, even though the UERM doesn't quite have the sub-bass I want.

 

I think you'd like the K3003 if you sat down with it.

 

I tried a friend's K3003 and I didn't like the harshness in the treble, but otherwise I liked the overall FR. If he still has it, next time I meet him I'll try it again in case it was just the drivers needing time to settle.

post #174 of 584
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I tried a friend's K3003 and I didn't like the harshness in the treble, but otherwise I liked the overall FR. If he still has it, next time I meet him I'll try it again in case it was just the drivers needing time to settle.

 

Gotcha. Maybe it was just fit, but I found the UERM to have a more noticeable treble spike than the K3K. Try out ortofon tips next time if you can.

post #175 of 584
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Gotcha. Maybe it was just fit, but I found the UERM to have a more noticeable treble spike than the K3K. Try out ortofon tips next time if you can.


Were you using a custom UERM or the universal demo? I'm pretty amazed at the difference after receiving the customs a few weeks ago.

post #176 of 584

Hopefully the Calyx M will be added to this thread soon...regarding the X5, has anybody used a particularly warm set of iems or headphones with it and found the highs/upper mids 'harsh' at all?

post #177 of 584
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

A bit of OT while I wait for cables and adaptors: I prefer the UERMs to the Roxannes, because of the FR mainly, but the Roxannes have the advantage with the parallel drivers that they have a tonne of headroom for all those rock musicians who need to go loud without distortion since their hearing is shot. I don't listen loud so it is not an issue for me.

FR = Frequency ?

post #178 of 584
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
 

A bit of OT while I wait for cables and adaptors: I prefer the UERMs to the Roxannes, because of the FR mainly, but the Roxannes have the advantage with the parallel drivers that they have a tonne of headroom for all those rock musicians who need to go loud without distortion since their hearing is shot. I don't listen loud so it is not an issue for me.

FR = Frequency ?

 

Yup, Freqency Response. I'm being lazy.

post #179 of 584
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Originally Posted by doublea71 View Post
 

Hopefully the Calyx M will be added to this thread soon...regarding the X5, has anybody used a particularly warm set of iems or headphones with it and found the highs/upper mids 'harsh' at all?


Hi there

 

I have just got the X5,  upgraded from ipod classic 160Gb 7th Gen + E17 stacked (ALAC files - apple lossless).   It's a step up without doubt.  I am just using the X5 alone with some FLAC files for now..   I have IE80s connected to it with Comply TX Foam Tips.    It is not at all harsh in uppers.  The sound is absolutely full.  Full Range compared to what I was using (iPod + E17).

 

Love it.

 

I borrowed a friends set of AKG3003s and using them on my ipod+E17 I found them slightly bright (I used to have a pair of 701s and moved them on because they were too fatiguing and moved to a set of HD650s which I prefer).     That said..............    I think the AKG3003s would be an ideal match to the X5 because of the extra sub bass in the X5 compared to the E17...   I am trying to get hold of the set I borrowed before to re-evaluate...  if so,  I will purchase a pair.  The IE80s seem to lack the clarity and texture of the AKGs and if the brightness isn't there with the X5 I will be very happy....

 

I haven't tried the IE800s yet,  maybe they are a better middle ground for me should the AKGs still be too bright..

 

One question,  should I look to stack an Amp/Dac with the X5....?   I went for the X5 as it was all in one,  not sure what others do..  Any suggestions would be appreciated (as in 'yes stack it' and 'stack it with X Amp/Dac')

 

John

post #180 of 584
Thread Starter 

I feel the X5 isn't so great with high-impedance headphones -- it doesn't seem to be able to deliver sufficient voltage swing to get a wide soundstage with my HD-800s, for example. In that case adding an amp would help. With IEMs I don't bother.

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