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Thank you much for your insights! My Roxanne's are just a bit dark and with the dual bass pots dialed beyond 9am even more so. Me thinks that the RWAK240 with its speed, clarity, and very small tilt toward treble could be a match made in heaven for the Roxanne's. Because the RWAK240 is so intriguing as a stand alone DAP, I am very much looking forward to your impressions to see if the synergy between the 240 and the Roxannes might be so. I am also very fond of the Oppo PM-1s in my possession which also lean toward the dark side. I sure wish the Hugo were a DAP too. With sound quality like that, my $$$ decisions would be easier! Happy listening and thanks again for your varied and considered contributions to this thread!

 



I will let you know...I was not fully convinced of the 901 - Roxanne duo...a bit too dark sounding IMO.
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I've found the Hugo can be a bit of a chameleon with its sound. It can sound a bit too bright with some IEMs or rigs. I just realised the treble from it doesn't sound as good when I sat down to listen first thing after switching it on. I wonder if it, like my Master 7, sounds best after it warms up.

 

I think I might have to add the Centrance M8 and Geek Out to the devices to compare as I've been enjoying both of them lately or start a portable DAC-off thread.

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About the Hugo, agreed. When I first heard the Hugo back in its Feb debut in Japan, I tried it with my Alpha Dogs. It was "surgical" as I had described it to some folks in PMs. But in May & last weekend I tried it with the Fitear MH335DW & it was just a great balance.

Overall though I think it seems to work with mojority cans & only specific cans it can emphasise certain undesirable traits.
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I had some more time listening to RWAK240 vs. 901 with the NT6. This CIEM really emphasize the qualities of the 901 over the RWAK240 as the first pairing is much much better. The NT6 are on the bright side of neutral, and the RWAK240 is quite on the colder / thinnerside IMO, whereas the 901 is slightly thicker and smoother. Since both players are equivalent, I am waiting to get my Ref1 (issue on the left side) and Roxannes back to see if the pairing with RWAK240 is better and if there is room for this player in my setup(s).

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It's confirmed, I like the non-mobile ES9018.  Got the Anedio D2 which implements the same chip, and it sound very good.  The HDP R10 was the same chip and I like it, there must be a pattern somewhere of my preferences.  :)

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It's confirmed, I like the non-mobile ES9018.  Got the Anedio D2 which implements the same chip, and it sound very good.  The HDP R10 was the same chip and I like it, there must be a pattern somewhere of my preferences.  :)

Actually, I was excited because it didn't sound to have horrible treble for pop/electronic genre out of the HD800, but with the NT6, it's bright.  Hugo isn't so forward, it's laid back and still detailed with the NT6.  The treble sound a bit bolder and forward than the Hugo.  Hugo seems to have finer treble.

 

I was suspecting that would be the characteristics of the ESS as I think the amp section on the R10 maybe warm as I tried it's line-out with the pure ii, and the D2 sounds like R10 line-out with the pure ii.  I guess the treble characteristics of the ES9018 is what it is.  Forward and a bit on the bold side.


Edited by SilverEars - 7/22/14 at 7:13pm
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As a diligent member of this community, i would like to exhaust all possible options to burn holes in my wallet..

Therefore i have a question to AK240 owners, do you find AK240 less ear fatiguing for long hours listening like plane ride than more forward sounsding player e.g. HM-901?

Thanks!
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As a diligent member of this community, i would like to exhaust all possible options to burn holes in my wallet..

Therefore i have a question to AK240 owners, do you find AK240 less ear fatiguing for long hours listening like plane ride than more forward sounsding player e.g. HM-901?

Thanks!

 

Can't compare it to the 901 specifically but it is a very non fatiguing device for long listening. At work the other day i exhausted the battery in one session without a break except to make coffee and eat. (it was a slow day :biggrin:)  Compared to my Studio 3rd Anniversary it is a much easier player to listen to for long periods (Studio is bright). I guess it depends on what music you are listening to as well and at what volume.

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As a diligent member of this community, i would like to exhaust all possible options to burn holes in my wallet..

Therefore i have a question to AK240 owners, do you find AK240 less ear fatiguing for long hours listening like plane ride than more forward sounsding player e.g. HM-901?

Thanks!


The AK240 is MUCH MORE fatiguing to my ears than the 901 with balanced card.

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The AK240 is MUCH MORE fatiguing to my ears than the 901 with balanced card.

Why is that, Mim?
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Or I can learn from Gavin and turn the AK240 into a 100% DSD player....shoud i ever need to indulge myself...
post #552 of 1135
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As a diligent member of this community, i would like to exhaust all possible options to burn holes in my wallet..

Therefore i have a question to AK240 owners, do you find AK240 less ear fatiguing for long hours listening like plane ride than more forward sounsding player e.g. HM-901?

Thanks!
 
 

If I remember correctly you're using the Minibox card right?  I do find 901+minibox a bit aggressive with some of my phones and can be fatiguing. 

But with balanced/IEM/discrete cards I find 901 not fatiguing at all, and probably at par with the AK240.  With the Classic card, 901 is less fatiguing than AK240.

 

But in anycase, you should still get the AK240 if you're looking at long plane rides:1) longer battery (compared to discrete/minibox/balanced), 2) less hassle at custom - I had been stopped and asked about what the heck is "this Hifiman thinggy", and 3) just becoz we're head-fiers who ALWAYS burn our wallets  :biggrin:

post #553 of 1135
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Or I can learn from Gavin and turn the AK240 into a 100% DSD player....shoud i ever need to indulge myself...


Well I find the AK240 / RWAK240 to sound brighter / thinner / harsher in the mids than 901 balanced. My less fatiguing player perfect for long plane rides is the Tera...

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If I remember correctly you're using the Minibox card right?  I do find 901+minibox a bit aggressive with some of my phones and can be fatiguing. 

But with balanced/IEM/discrete cards I find 901 not fatiguing at all, and probably at par with the AK240.  With the Classic card, 901 is less fatiguing than AK240.

 

But in anycase, you should still get the AK240 if you're looking at long plane rides:1) longer battery (compared to discrete/minibox/balanced), 2) less hassle at custom - I had been stopped and asked about what the heck is "this Hifiman thinggy", and 3) just becoz we're head-fiers who ALWAYS burn our wallets  :biggrin:


yes, still the minibox cos I am too lazy to switch back to balance .... especially I now mainly use tralucent iems and dont have those cables terminated to balance (just not committed enough to do so, dont ask me why)....

 

I am looking at a cheaper option of Calyx M but all I ever read is little issue one after another... these issues maybe little but worry it may accumulate to become a nuisance.. and especially it is not cheap (in the sensible world). So unless cowon hurry up about it, I am leave with an option to pay a little more for less headache... and that I will appreciate Master Gavin's Zen way of putting how AK240 sounds better (listen to what is not "there")...

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yes, still the minibox cos I am too lazy to switch back to balance .... especially I now mainly use tralucent iems and dont have those cables terminated to balance (just not committed enough to do so, dont ask me why)....

 

I am looking at a cheaper option of Calyx M but all I ever read is little issue one after another... these issues maybe little but worry it may accumulate to become a nuisance.. and especially it is not cheap (in the sensible world). So unless cowon hurry up about it, I am leave with an option to pay a little more for less headache... and that I will appreciate Master Gavin's Zen way of putting how AK240 sounds better (listen to what is not "there")...


All due respect to Gavin, he has not listened to the 901 in a while, and compared side by side with AK240....well there is no competition IMO. Unless you use mostly warm iems.

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