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post #256 of 1972

I have the ZX5 on a loan for a week now and for the price this fine DAP really deliver top notch sound quality.  With that said, I still prefer my ZX1 over the X5 in the sound department.  What I'm hearing is a more resolution on the Sony with more robust low level details.  The only thing that the X5 is able to edge out over the ZX1 is the depth of the soundstage and it isn't by much.  The ZX1 with sound enhancement app disable is also capable of powering my HD800 with a good results.  With what I like on the X5, I'm curious how much better the X7 will be.  I'm so glad that FiiO continues to produce high value product and how Sony is finally returning to its remarkable walkman days.

post #257 of 1972
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Originally Posted by purk View Post

I have the ZX5 on a loan for a week now and for the price this fine DAP really deliver top notch sound quality.  With that said, I still prefer my ZX1 over the X5 in the sound department.  What I'm hearing is a more resolution on the Sony with more robust low level details.  The only thing that the X5 is able to edge out over the ZX1 is the depth of the soundstage and it isn't by much.  The ZX1 with sound enhancement app disable is also capable of powering my HD800 with a good results.  With what I like on the X5, I'm curious how much better the X7 will be.  I'm so glad that FiiO continues to produce high value product and how Sony is finally returning to its remarkable walkman days.
Purk, do you have an otg cable for the sony. I wonder if zx1 can work with nad m51 as a transport.I know f887 can work with x-sabre but not sure about the nad
post #258 of 1972
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Purk, do you have an otg cable for the sony. I wonder if zx1 can work with nad m51 as a transport.I know f887 can work with x-sabre but not sure about the nad

No it doesn't work with the NAD.  I wish it does.  I have the x-sabre on loan and was not able to get it to work either.  The ZX1 does works with my Pico DAC, PS Digital link III, and Matrix Mini-I Pro though.  I'm not sure what the catch on sending digital over USB really on the Sony.  I'm perplexed why the F887 does work with the X-sabre and the ZX1 doesn't.

post #259 of 1972

^ Bummer, that'd be nice if it did. 

post #260 of 1972

Question for those that have heard the AK240, Cypher stack or any other portable rig that can also double as a desktop rig.  The Hugo is also of interest but what portable transports work?

 

Space aside, how do they compare to each other, ignoring price?  Best transport for the Hugo and Cypher?

post #261 of 1972

Best dap for Hugo would be AK240, I haven't run into any bugs yet.  DX90 on coax would pause/resume multiple times when playing DSD over pcm to the Hugo.  Windows 7 laptop to the Hugo also works well.

post #262 of 1972
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Originally Posted by kantana View Post
 

Best dap for Hugo would be AK240, I haven't run into any bugs yet.  DX90 on coax would pause/resume multiple times when playing DSD over pcm to the Hugo.  Windows 7 laptop to the Hugo also works well.

Why not the ZX1?  It is much cheaper and will also send digital signal via USB to the hugo.  ZX1 also feature wireless streaming from wifi drive.

post #263 of 1972
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post
 

Question for those that have heard the AK240, Cypher stack or any other portable rig that can also double as a desktop rig.  The Hugo is also of interest but what portable transports work?

 

Space aside, how do they compare to each other, ignoring price?  Best transport for the Hugo and Cypher?

 

My hugo has not arrived yet so I have not personally tried it, but Rudi says the best (sq wise) transport is:

 

iDevice ---> go-dap dd limited 12v or go-dap dd socket 1 or solo -db ---> coaxial out ---> Hugo (coax input)

 

According to Rudi this sounds better than ak240 going into hugo via optical

 

iDevice using the Onkyo HF Player can pass DSD to the Hugo via DoP


Edited by zachchen1996 - 5/13/14 at 4:07pm
post #264 of 1972
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Originally Posted by purk View Post
 

Why not the ZX1?  It is much cheaper and will also send digital signal via USB to the hugo.  ZX1 also feature wireless streaming from wifi drive.

ZX1 doesn't have native DSD decoding, it transcodes to pcm for internal playback.  It can transport DoP out via usb but you'll be tied to the Hugo, I also found DoP sounded better from the AK240 to the Hugo than the ZX1.  Plus DSD files are huge so the AK240 can store more of them.  I use my AK240 standalone outside the house.

Not tried a wireless drive but have used MQS to stream from a pc.  I found my HTC M8 can also access the MQS server via upnp app so looks like it's just DLNA.  Besides I have 384GB storage on the AK240 which should keep me busy awhile.

The ZX1 does have the advantage of battery life though.

post #265 of 1972

Let me rephrase.  Ignoring price differences of the AK240 alone, Cypher and Hugo with modest transports like an iPod Classic/Touch or the AK100 Mk2 I already have... how do they compare?  I'll reread what Cura wrote about the Cypher stack while people add their experience.

 

Only interested in 16/44 flac performance from either the dap or pc.  I have exactly 0 dsd or high res media in my collection and no plans to start now.  Which is easy since I'm pretty sure anything I would listen to isn't available in either format :P

post #266 of 1972
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Question for those that have heard the AK240, Cypher stack or any other portable rig that can also double as a desktop rig.  The Hugo is also of interest but what portable transports work?

Space aside, how do they compare to each other, ignoring price?  Best transport for the Hugo and Cypher?

I personally think AK240 + Hugo via optical sounds fantastic!
Edited by sutjahjo - 5/13/14 at 5:06pm
post #267 of 1972

No doubt but at that price I'm just getting a suitcase for my big rig and a battery pack =)

post #268 of 1972

Chord will be using a Laptop, iPad & ZX1 at the Munich Hi-End Show starting on Thursday... the Hi-End system they're taking is pretty amazing $200k+.

post #269 of 1972
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

Chord will be using a Laptop, iPad & ZX1 at the Munich Hi-End Show starting on Thursday... the Hi-End system they're taking is pretty amazing $200k+.

Do you think they we could get a lower the price if we did a group buy?  :wink_face:

post #270 of 1972
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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post
 

Do you think they we could get a lower the price if we did a group buy?  :wink_face:

 

I'll ask... worth a try... :bigsmile_face:

 

(I'll post details of system in Hugo thread tomorrow) 

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