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Closed back with best soundstage and decent bass in <$500/£300 range

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Thread Starter 

Hi audiohphiles, I had almost decided on the ZMF v1 for my next pair of headphones based on advice from a previous thread, but have been reading on a few other options as well in the <$500/£300 closed/semi-open headphones with the best soundstage and decent/fun bass category. I listen to mainly soundtracks, pop and classical, and will use it for commuting as well, so should be not too unportable. 

 

ZMF v1 or 2

Soundmagic HP100

AKG Q701 Quincy Jones

Audio Technica ath-a900x

Fidelio L2

NAD Viso HP50

 

I am still leaning towards ZMF v1 but do any of the above have better soundstage? I think overall the ZMF would still come out on top but would like to hear what others think.

 

For those interested in similar headphones, my findings below may be useful to you. 

 

- If you are willing to go above my budget, the Alpha dogs, ATHW100x and Ultrasone Signature Pro are good choices it seems.

- If you want to go for the minimum budget, Samson HR850 are the best bet BUT they may leak too much for commuting purposes. Somic efi-82 mt is the next best option and is closed.

 

- The ones I dropped from my list are: 

AKG 267 - not the best value for money

Mad Dog 3.2 - ZMF is comparable and cheaper

K550 - too thin/flat

Vmoda M100 - bass heavy and soundstage not exceptional

Fischer Jubilate - mediocre relative to others

MDR-1R - ousted by others on the list

Beyer DT770 - A900x is better

Beyer Custom one pro - nothing exceptional


Edited by fireflyfu - 4/12/14 at 9:37am
post #2 of 14

Shure SRH1540

post #3 of 14
Q701 will have considerably better soundstage but it's open and offers no isolation.
post #4 of 14

Get yourself a pair of Denon AH-D5000, or AH-D2000. You can find a pair of D2000 with deeper wooden cups in your price range. The bass won't disappoint and the deeper cups should bring a wide soundstage too. 

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Shure SRH1540

+1 for Shure SRH1540
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+1 for Shure SRH1540

OK, I can handle a little hype. tongue.gif
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 

Unfortunately Shure 1540 costs £400 here in the U.K so would be out of my budget. I'll keep an eye out for Denon D2000's - as I'd have to buy them second hand, what price do you reckon would be reasonable/good value for them?

post #8 of 14
I would strike the A900X off your list. I would be very hesitant to use those for commuting as the wings seems kind of fragile for carrying around in a backpack or something.

The other thing to consider would be to see which are EQ friendly for increasing bass. Could be you find the headphone with the good soundstage and a slightly more neutral sound signature, and then get a portable amp with a decent bass boost on it for when you are on the go.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys. I was actually thinking of getting a Fiio E11 amp but only if needed and if it can fit in my total budget of ~ £300. I've shortened my list now to 2+3

 

ZMF v1

Soundmagic HP100

 

+3 other great options which have some issue holding me back:

 Bowers P7 - a bit above my budget (£329), so wondering if its worth it compared to the two above

 Fidelio L2 - really want to like it, but given it leaks sound don't understand how it is marketed as a portable - might as well get a full open pair then.

 D2000 - if I can find one for a good price

 

Dropped the A900x and Q701 as suggested. Can't get over the looks of Nad Viso Hp50 so dropping that as well.

 

The HP100 might be too large for portable use after all though, can't imagine them hanging around the neck without covering half my face. I'm getting the HP100 for £135, and the basic version of ZMF for £170. If it's recommended to get the gold rejack version with pilot pads and mogami cable for a significant performance increase, then that takes ZMF to £229. At that price the HP100 looks like a bargain. 

 

So my eyes are going for the L2, my wallet for HP100, my brain for ZMF. hmm.


Edited by fireflyfu - 4/13/14 at 8:04pm
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Must. Use. Brain. Lest thine eyes deceive thee or thy purse be o'erfull. (Mmm . . . Brains!)
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Originally Posted by fireflyfu View Post
 

Unfortunately Shure 1540 costs £400 here in the U.K so would be out of my budget. I'll keep an eye out for Denon D2000's - as I'd have to buy them second hand, what price do you reckon would be reasonable/good value for them?

They normally sell around here for about 300 USD for a pair in good condition. I wouldn't pay more than 325. 

post #12 of 14

The D2000 leak sound and aren't great for noise isolation. Great bass and nice although somewhat harsh treble, all around great and very enjoyable headphone. Don't get the impression that they'd be a good portable phone though.

 

I really like the Sennheiser Momentums, perhaps the P7 ( don't own them) a bit more. I've never heard the NAD Visio but I'm very interested in these. 

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The D2000 leak sound and aren't great for noise isolation. Great bass and nice although somewhat harsh treble, all around great and very enjoyable headphone. Don't get the impression that they'd be a good portable phone though.

 

I really like the Sennheiser Momentums, perhaps the P7 ( don't own them) a bit more. I've never heard the NAD Visio but I'm very interested in these. 

Yeah you are right there, they're considered closed but they're semi-open really. So I guess I should withdraw my recommendation for the Dx000 series.

post #14 of 14
I'm surprised Denon d600 hasn't been mentioned, it has an extremely wide sound stage for a closed headphone.

It's a more bassy can, great for edm, and very portable. Idk if it's in your price range. I think you might be able to get the denon d7100, not sure how much they cost over there.

Either way, both sound like exactly what you want
Edited by Hapster - 4/14/14 at 1:16am
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