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post #1 of 43
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HI

 

I am a new official member of this group but i have been reading for a few years now. Also although I wont claim myself to be a full-fledged audiophile,  I pretty much can't enjoy low res and bad cans/iems these days but I won't say i can tell the difference between a below $500 setup and  tens of thousand ones.  

Anyway,  i just want to know if anyone has experience driving the hd800 with a chain similar to this:

macbook pro/any source with usb out > audio quest cinnamon usb> Ifi iusb> i-gemini >ipurifier > Ifi IDsd nano > itube > ican

 

 

and if this is sufficient to bring out most if not all of hd800's potential?   If not, any suggestion that will give somewhat close sound sig to the setup above at $500-700 range?

 

I own the chain above with some other cheaper dacs/amps from FiiO and C&C and superlux.  My other headphones are: HD598, AKG 550, Shure 1540, B&W P7, Parrot Zik (i know i know :D), momentum on ear - also have these iems: Hifiman RE-400, Tf10i, klipsch s4, klipsch custom 3. 

post #2 of 43

Some have said the Schiit Vali sounds super duper with the HD 800, I'd give it a try! Maybe get your self a BiFrost and a Vali, from Schiit and njoy! 

post #3 of 43
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Thanks! been definitely looking at schiit as an alternative. That being said, any reason why you suggested Vali over Asgard 2 with the Byfrost?  And, would you also know if the ifi device-chain above can drive hd800 properly?   I have the setup above, and hd800 is coming, that's why i am asking now instead of just trying them out :)

 

thanks!

post #4 of 43
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Originally Posted by rptlead View Post
 

Thanks! been definitely looking at schiit as an alternative. That being said, any reason why you suggested Vali over Asgard 2 with the Byfrost?  And, would you also know if the ifi device-chain above can drive hd800 properly?   I have the setup above, and hd800 is coming, that's why i am asking now instead of just trying them out :)

 

thanks!

No idea what the iFi device can do honestly, I'd have my doubts.

 

Still the Vali is a tube and it's been reported to pair very nicely with the HD 800, a tube will cut the treble of the HD 800 that some ppl complain about, the Asgard 2 might leave it too bright

 

the Vali though sounded AWESOME with my dt 880 600 ohm, the HD 800 shares a simmilar sound sig to my old DT 880, so it should benifit from the Valis sound as well!

 

Still I've heard a lot of happy HD800 and Vali demoers 

post #5 of 43
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gotcha! will chalk vali (and byfrost if budget allows soon) up the list. thanks!

post #6 of 43
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Originally Posted by rptlead View Post
 

gotcha! will chalk vali (and byfrost if budget allows soon) up the list. thanks!

try for a woo WA7 second hand. you might have to go to 800 dollars maybe. 

 

See if you can get comparisons beween the Vali/MOdi or Vali/bitfrost and the Wa7. 

post #7 of 43
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Originally Posted by rptlead View Post
 

HI

 

I am a new official member of this group but i have been reading for a few years now. Also although I wont claim myself to be a full-fledged audiophile,  I pretty much can't enjoy low res and bad cans/iems these days but I won't say i can tell the difference between a below $500 setup and  tens of thousand ones.  

Anyway,  i just want to know if anyone has experience driving the hd800 with a chain similar to this:

macbook pro/any source with usb out > audio quest cinnamon usb> Ifi iusb> i-gemini >ipurifier > Ifi IDsd nano > itube > ican

 

 

and if this is sufficient to bring out most if not all of hd800's potential?   If not, any suggestion that will give somewhat close sound sig to the setup above at $500-700 range?

 

I own the chain above with some other cheaper dacs/amps from FiiO and C&C and superlux.  My other headphones are: HD598, AKG 550, Shure 1540, B&W P7, Parrot Zik (i know i know :D), momentum on ear - also have these iems: Hifiman RE-400, Tf10i, klipsch s4, klipsch custom 3. 

 

 

I sometimes use the HD800 with my iCAN...and things sound pretty good.   The iCAN bass boost is a must is I want to listen to something like the Black Eyed Peas with the HD800.  This bass boost is well implemented - its more like a sub-bass boost, so the mids remain unaffected by the increased bass.   

 

 

 

 

post #8 of 43
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

try for a woo WA7 second hand. you might have to go to 800 dollars maybe. 

 

See if you can get comparisons beween the Vali/MOdi or Vali/bitfrost and the Wa7. 

 

 

The WA7, according to some owners, is more of a sidegrade from good amps in the $1000 and cheaper range.  I was thinking of getting a WA7 until I did some reading and asked for opinions.

post #9 of 43
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I sometimes use the HD800 with my iCAN...and things sound pretty good.   The iCAN bass boost is a must is I want to listen to something like the Black Eyed Peas with the HD800.  This bass boost is well implemented - its more like a sub-bass boost, so the mids remain unaffected by the increased bass.   

 

 

 

 

thank you so much elver.  that sounds reassuring sepcially considering i have the complete ifi-setup mentioned above (whew i thought they would be useless).   if you dont mind, if you are not using ican, what's your go to setup?

post #10 of 43
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

 

The WA7, according to some owners, is more of a sidegrade from good amps in the $1000 and cheaper range.  I was thinking of getting a WA7 until I did some reading and asked for opinions.

Im not sure i follow what from which context are you saying WA7 is a side grade from the good amps.  Are you trying to say, it's a good amp at that level but just different sound sig? 

post #11 of 43
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

 

I sometimes use the HD800 with my iCAN...and things sound pretty good.   The iCAN bass boost is a must is I want to listen to something like the Black Eyed Peas with the HD800.  This bass boost is well implemented - its more like a sub-bass boost, so the mids remain unaffected by the increased bass.   

 

 

 

 

That's good to hear, not sure how the iCan measures up but the Vali sounds wonderful with any 300+ ohm dynamics. It gives the bass and mids a nice slight boost, and tapers the highs ever so much

 

I've not heard the iCan devices and truthfully I'm a little skeptical of them BUT if they work and they sound nice then go for it!

 

Plus OP you can always test ur HD 800 with ur iCan devies first then decide if you want to get something better

post #12 of 43
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

try for a woo WA7 second hand. you might have to go to 800 dollars maybe. 

 

See if you can get comparisons beween the Vali/MOdi or Vali/bitfrost and the Wa7. 

I wish i can find a place to audition the WA7 somewhere near the bay area (CA).  Also, going through that route better than getting separate amp and dac generally?

post #13 of 43
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

That's good to hear, not sure how the iCan measures up but the Vali sounds wonderful with any 300+ ohm dynamics. It gives the bass and mids a nice slight boost, and tapers the highs ever so much

 

I've not heard the iCan devices and truthfully I'm a little skeptical of them BUT if they work and they sound nice then go for it!

 

Plus OP you can always test ur HD 800 with ur iCan devies first then decide if you want to get something better

actually that's true.  I may be just having advanced case of upgrade-titis i think :D  but always good to know in advance from people who can share their own experience. :)

post #14 of 43
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Originally Posted by rptlead View Post
 

thank you so much elver.  that sounds reassuring sepcially considering i have the complete ifi-setup mentioned above (whew i thought they would be useless).   if you dont mind, if you are not using ican, what's your go to setup?

 

I usually use a Schiit Lyr with the HD800.  Not the best combo, according to some, but I like it very much.    I decided to skip the $500 to $1500 offerings and go for something in the $2000 to $4000 range - a GS-X perhaps.   I will never selling the iCAN though...the bass boost is indispensable. 

post #15 of 43
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

I usually use a Schiit Lyr with the HD800.  Not the best combo, according to some, but I like it very much.    I decided to skip the $500 to $1500 offerings and go for something in the $2000 to $4000 range - a GS-X perhaps.   I will never selling the iCAN though...the bass boost is indispensable. 

IF you REALLY want to get the most out of it, trying going for one of the Audio GD balanced Amp Dac combos around $800, I've got the NFB 10ES2 and it gave my DT 880 some wonderful bass! [without a boost] very full bodied sound, seeing as the HD 800 is know to be bright maybe try it with one of the Wolfson Dac offerings

 

the Nfb 10.33 is set at about $580 dollars, and it should be a nice upgrade to the iCan. Granted you'll need to buy a balanced Cable, but at $600 [shipped] $200 should get you a great balanced cable to use with the amp! The nfb 10.33 is built to have an Analog sound, my hm801 is built with the same intent and I think it sounds wonderful with all my headphones, and I own 3 BRIGHT headphones, the HE 4 being one of the brightest

 

I think the 10.33 might be a good option for you, if your willing to go with a balanced amp/dac combo for home use

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