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post #1411 of 17221
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the bigger the battery the bigger the player

 

nwz a15 - 50 hours

nwz zx1 -30 hours

 

difference? a15 is half of size, same chip, same volume output... but it doesnt use android and big display like zx1.

 

its about priority and wifi and big screen probably makes more people to buy their things...not some few hours of more battery endurance.

 

i wont ever buy music player with touchscreen and with real battery life under 15h. i want music player, not expensive toys


Edited by vincik - 11/30/14 at 3:36pm
post #1412 of 17221

Then you should look into an Alien or a Colorfy C3.  The first has no display, the second a minimal one.

 

I don't need a giant screen, and I don't want wifi/bluetooth.  But I do want a player that has some creature comforts.  And I can't recall the last time I ran a player out of power.  I charge when power gets low.  

 

The X7 will have less then 10 hours of power )from the hints that James and Joe are dropping).  Its primary area of sale will be China.  The Chinese consumer probably doesn't feel that s/he needs more than 10 hours of battery power (if s/he did, I'm sure the X7 would be designed to meet that need).  If that's a deal-breaker for you, so be it.  There are plenty of options out there for you (see above)

post #1413 of 17221
The largest draw on the battery would be the amp section and DAC, not touch screens and wifi. Take the current players from FiiO as an example. My X5 battery life is almost doubled when using line out to the e12 which bypasses the X5 amp. When using coaxial out to a desktop amp/DAC my X5 as a transport plays for around 30 hours.

Mind you, I really don't watch the screen when listening to music so that is of minor consequence to me. If the touch screen and Android OS help me navigate quicker to my music then the screen will be even less of an issue on battery life. I feel FiiO is on the right path. I don't understand why people are drinking all the hate juice toward touch screens and user friendly features. If you don't want the wifi turn it off. If you hate touch screens then use the buttons. The extra features will not be what kills the battery life the most, though I'll concede they will have an effect if used constantly. Personally, I can't wait to see what the 'secret button' is.

Edit: I'll point out that the players that typically have a longer battery life either have a weaker amp or are on the large side.
Edited by x RELIC x - 11/30/14 at 6:30pm
post #1414 of 17221
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincik View Post
 

nwz a15 - 50 hours

nwz zx1 -30 hours

 

difference? a15 is half of size, same chip, same volume output... but it doesnt use android and big display like zx1.

 

its about priority and wifi and big screen probably makes more people to buy their things...not some few hours of more battery endurance.

 

i wont ever buy music player with touchscreen and with real battery life under 15h. i want music player, not expensive toys

That's still good for "power hungry" android and big screen, so yeah.....

 

And some of us do want expensive toys so double yeah...... :)

post #1415 of 17221
Why isn't 30 hours enough anyway? Not to mention, you can shut wifi, Bluetooth, and whatever radios are turned on. Dim your screen, or just use external hardware buttons. For most people, screens are wanted, if not needed. If you don't want that stuff buy an X5,Tera player, or hifiman. All supposedly sound quite good, and 2 are affordable. Even the new Shozy alien is getting nice reviews. There aren't many options for those of us that want touch screen, wifi, etc.
post #1416 of 17221

My screen is only on when I search for music.  Maybe a minute, maybe less.  Then I turn it off.  I'm certainly not walking around enjoying my album art.   I agree, not a big drain.  WiFi is used when inside your house, or at a hotspot inside a building.  You're not going to use it while walking around the streets.  Plenty of chances to plug in when inside.  BT?  How many of us have BT headphones or iems?  Not many, I suppose.  

 

 

So xRelicx is correct, the main "culprits" of power usage are the amp and DAC.  I guess you could turn down the volume and put very small music files on your device.  That would save power.   Or, as he says, use an external amp (but then you would have to charge that).  

 

Again, is someone listening for eight hours straight and draining the battery?  What's going to go first, your battery or your hearing?  

post #1417 of 17221
I can understand wanting more than 6,but how much more? That's a lot of listening without needing a charger... Other than long plane rides, I don't see why people are obsessed with battery life and not charging. I don't see the big deal of plugging your dap in every night... There are much worse things in life to do.
post #1418 of 17221
8 hours playtime for x7? Is that a joke? It's worse than x5.
post #1419 of 17221
I'll be happy for 8 hours of playing time with only 24 bit flacs. If 16 bit flacs I'm hoping for at least 10-12 hours.
post #1420 of 17221
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Originally Posted by spatzi View Post

8 hours playtime for x7? Is that a joke? It's worse than x5.


?  X5 gets 8-10 hours.  No one knows (except James and Joe) what the X7 will get.  Charge it daily (or nightly).  If you are listening for 8-10 hours straight, your hearing is going to suffer.  If you need 30-50 hours of battery, it must mean you don't want to be bothered with plugging it in.  That's not an issue for Fiio.  

post #1421 of 17221
Thread Starter 

the playtime is just a initial specification. let's wait the final test result . and also it depend on the amp module,  

post #1422 of 17221
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by warrior1975 View Post

If the X7 is on par with the 240, for that price, people should be very happy. Coming from someone who owns a 240, I'm completely happy with it, and even the "ridiculous" price I paid. It's an amazing device on every level. If people could get the same performance, similar functionality, and save a ton of money, who wouldn't be happy? Everyone talks of how easy it should be the sound better than the 240 or Hugo, but damn have any of you heard these devices? They sound incredible and are built very, very well (some minor issues). If Fiio can match that at $700... That's a huge win for everyone, except AK, which will hopefully bring them back to Earth with prices or make them step up their game again.

 

I think x7 is not on the same way as AK240, nor FiiO are trying to compete with others on the same way. 

post #1423 of 17221

And there is our answer, folks.

post #1424 of 17221
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Originally Posted by olddude View Post
 

Portables need batteries, the bigger the battery the bigger the player, the bigger the player the less portable it becomes.  I have no issues with 8-10 hours of play time.  Are you listening for 8 hours straight?  

Serious... who cares about size this much - if you need little device get clip+. Make it bigger, its fine, we have pockets!

post #1425 of 17221
I can only speak for myself but size is important for my choice of portable player.
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