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post #121 of 15594
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Originally Posted by JamesFiiO View Post

 

OS: Custom OS based on Android, can supports some third party APP from our website.

 

 

Make sure the processor is powerful enough to ensure a quick & smooth experience throughout the player.

 

Calyx M is based on android, but it has a slow processor which causes it to have a "laggier" than optimal experience.

 

You guys don't need to put an octacore 3ghz processor in the X7, but make sure it is fast enough to ensure a smooth experience.

 

(Is it possible to get some Qualcomm Snapdragon guts into this thing? I'm guessing no because that would be too expensive right? )

post #122 of 15594

Honestly though... I'd be all for removing the Weight Limitation from it... I'd hate to think we'd miss out on a cool product because were afraid it's going to be too heavy

 

but on the other hand limiting the weight might simplifiy the design too, the heavier it is the more hardward you cram into it the hotter it would get... but still... I'm might wind up with one of these in 2015 :3

post #123 of 15594
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post
 

 

Make sure the processor is powerful enough to ensure a quick & smooth experience throughout the player.

 

Calyx M is based on android, but it has a slow processor which causes it to have a "laggier" than optimal experience.

 

You guys don't need to put an octacore 3ghz processor in the X7, but make sure it is fast enough to ensure a smooth experience.

 

(Is it possible to get some Qualcomm Snapdragon guts into this thing? I'm guessing no because that would be too expensive right? )

:confused:  Why? Isn't it like $1k.  Shouldn't the price warrant a better processor?  From the looks of things, I wouldn't mind one of the big phone companies to just implement a ESS chip into their phones.  Which seems unlikely since they use Snapdragons, and I think the audio chip is integrated.  Maybe Apple might change to ESS one day? Not that it's all about ESS chip, but I have a small DAC that implements an ESS chip with low costing parts, and it actually sounds great, so maybe the strength is in the chip mostly.

 

AK240 does have dual Wolfsons though and it's regarded as fantastic sounding.


Edited by SilverEars - 5/6/14 at 9:44pm
post #124 of 15594
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

:confused:  Why? Isn't it like $1k.  Shouldn't the price warrant a better processor?  From the looks of things, I wouldn't mind one of the big phone companies to just implement a ESS chip into their phones.  Which seems unlikely since they use Snapdragons, and I think the audio chip is integrated.  Maybe Apple might change to ESS one day? Not that it's all about ESS chip, but I have a small DAC that implements an ESS chip with low costing parts, and it actually sounds great, so maybe the strength is in the chip mostly.

 

AK240 does have dual Wolfsons though and it's regarded as fantastic sounding.

BUT wolfsons will never be a PCM or ESS Chip sadly :/

 

actually I have no grounds to make that statement on, speaking of Dual Wolfsons, the new hm 802 [COMPETITION FIIO] has dual wolfsons... and I'm not egar to give up my ole hm801 PCM dac chip for some wolfsons :/

 

that said though the DX90 is running Dual ESS... so the DAP market just got really... competitive! 

post #125 of 15594
SilverEars AK240 does not use wolfson chip, AFAIK it uses Cirrus chip.
Edited by shakur1996 - 5/6/14 at 10:17pm
post #126 of 15594
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Originally Posted by shakur1996 View Post

SilverEars AK240 does not use wolfson chip, AFAIK it uses Cirrus chip.

You're right, the 120 uses the Wolfsons.  Now, it's really perplexing as the 240 is using Cirrus chip which are rarely mentioned here.  :D

post #127 of 15594
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

You're right, the 120 uses the Wolfsons.  Now, it's really perplexing as the 240 is using Cirrus chip which are rarely mentioned here.  :D

Actually they used to be pretty popular it seems, and the fact that people are comparing them to TOTL ESS chips and the legened PCM chips makes me interested 

post #128 of 15594
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post  You're right, the 120 uses the Wolfsons.  Now, it's really perplexing as the 240 is using Cirrus chip which are rarely mentioned here.  :D

 

Cirrus Logic just bought out Wolfson, so they're not an insignificant company. They also have about double the number of employees.

post #129 of 15594
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post
 

 

Make sure the processor is powerful enough to ensure a quick & smooth experience throughout the player.

 

Calyx M is based on android, but it has a slow processor which causes it to have a "laggier" than optimal experience.

 

You guys don't need to put an octacore 3ghz processor in the X7, but make sure it is fast enough to ensure a smooth experience.

 

(Is it possible to get some Qualcomm Snapdragon guts into this thing? I'm guessing no because that would be too expensive right? )


Sansa clip use a 240Mhz ULV single core and is ALWAYS fast and reactive.

post #130 of 15594
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Sansa clip use a 240Mhz ULV single core and is ALWAYS fast and reactive.

 

Yes that's great, but the clip isn't running on Android.

post #131 of 15594
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post

 

Calyx M is based on android, but it has a slow processor which causes it to have a "laggier" than optimal experience.

 

 

Is that conjecture or proven?   Any links to where this is reported?

post #132 of 15594
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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post
 

 

Is that conjecture or proven?   Any links to where this is reported?

 

From the Calyx M thread:

 

"The UI seems laggy although it is still bearable much like the slightly laggy UI speed/fluidity of the AK120 compared to AK240. Definitely not as smooth as the AK240 or the Sony ZX1. Pressing commands and buttons on the UI may observe a 1 sec delay before M responds. I would say the AK120 responds faster than Calyx M when it comes to giving it commands. Hopefully the launch model will be much better than the demo unit. The thumbnails of the album arts load similarly to that of the AK240, i.e. thumbnail pictures loading about a split (half) second later after scrolling the page down. It is akin to browsing your Facebook app page with photos on LTE/4G."

 

 

post #133 of 15594
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post
 

 

Yes that's great, but the clip isn't running on Android.

Rockbox.

 

If android is slow... why use it ?

 

Rockbox is always ultrafast... and need so little energy.

No lags at all, ultrafast controls and scrollings.

No boot... immediately ready to play.

Be simple easy and fast... and win.


Edited by Silverprout - 5/7/14 at 4:03am
post #134 of 15594

For one thing, RockBox doesn't do anything over 16/48.

 

It isn't the answer for all questions.

post #135 of 15594
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

For one thing, RockBox doesn't do anything over 16/48.

 

It isn't the answer for all questions.

My rockboxed sansa clip plays 24/88 How ?

Resampling ?

 

Sometime i listen to a RB sansa clip when the X3 is empty... The general ease of use of RB clip is very painful for the X3 (i keep it only for SQ).

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