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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

Hey guys,

 

I would like to expand my headphone collection and I need some help/tips.

 

My setup:

 

- Computer with Xonar Essence STX

- Macbook Pro (late 2011)

- Nexus 5/7 and Ipod nano

 

Current gear:

 

- Ultrasone Pro 550

- V-Moda M100 (for ipod/phone/macbook)

- Shure SE215 (for Ipod and phone)

 

What am I looking for:

 

I want to expand my headphone collection. I want to enjoy music to it's fullest but I don't have unlimited money to spend. 

The headphones will mainly be used for music listening on my computer. I also game but that's less important. 

The source files I use are 320kpbs mp3's, I also listen through Spotify and Youtube. 

My main genres I listen to are EDM (Electro House, Progressive house) also techno, tech house, minimal, more soulful house.

I can enjoy classical music and film music.

 

I love music that has that really deep bass, so it's important for me that the headphones have a good clear bass (I can hear the difference between the Ultrasone and the Vmoda, Ultrasone is in my opinion much clearer and gives a better sound) and warm sound.

 

Budget: +/- 500,00 Euros

 

Suggestions: 

 

* Ultrasone Pro 900

* AKG K701 (not bassy but reviews seem good)

* Sennheiser HD600

* Sennheiser HD650

* Beyerdynamic DT990

* Philips X1

* HiFiMAN HE-400

 

=> For the moment I will not upgrade to an external amp/dac as I am happy with the Essence STX.

=> I decided that I might get 2 headphones. One that is great with my EDM music and another one that is more neutral.

I already decided more or less that I will get the AKG K701 for the neutral sound.

Still undecided on the more bassy headphone.

 

Edit:

 

I just edited my post, made it a bit clearer and have some more info.

I also ordered the Fiio E11 amp for my phone.

 

Song samples:

 

=> Some examples to what I listen too:

 

http://www.beatport.com/track/excuse-my-wildness-feat-jaw-carl-craig-remix/5103003

http://www.beatport.com/track/theres-no-time-original-mix/5204265

http://www.beatport.com/track/gecko-original-mix/5005412

http://www.beatport.com/track/dechorro-original-mix/4837331


Edited by SpArkLeS - 4/9/14 at 8:19am
post #2 of 25
Thread Starter 
Bumpity bump bump
post #3 of 25

Used HD600 and O2/ODAC should be a good setup. 

post #4 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thx, I'll look into the dac. Don't really want to buy used stuff though. I know the hd600 gets recommanded alot but it is open back yes so not really good if there are other people in the room
post #5 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by lin0003 View Post

Used HD600 and O2/ODAC should be a good setup. 

I enjoy that set up a lot for classical, but it doesn't have enough bass for dance music.

Consider Philips X1 or maybe even something like DT990.

(The FR charts for the new Senn DJ models are really bad.)
post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 

I looked up some info on the O2/ODAC and it seems that it's not really available in Europe, same goes for the Schiit combo. I would have to import and I that would drive the cost up too much.

 

So no Sennheiser HD8 DJ :p

Okay I'll scrap those from the list and I'll do some more research on the HD600 & DT990.

 

Just a question but is the Xonar Essence STX not enough to have decent sound?

 

Edit: 

Just read a bit more and I believe I will take my change with open back headphones, much better soundstage. Still clueless what to get. I don't want a heavy bass that sound muddy, I want punchy bass. 

 

This is so difficult to describe.


Edited by SpArkLeS - 4/8/14 at 6:25am
post #7 of 25
Add the HE-400 to your list. They are a good match for your music genres. The bass (as well as the other frequencies) is extremely resolving and textured, they have excellent bass extension, and they are currently on sale for $299. I have not heard the Ultrasone Pro 550, but I have experience with the HFI-580 and HFI-780, and these are a big step up in bass sound quality. See this review, and notice how the HE-400 rating compares to other headphones in that list: http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HE400
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Add the HE-400 to your list. They are a good match for your music genres. The bass (as well as the other frequencies) is extremely resolving and textured, they have excellent bass extension, and they are currently on sale for $299. I have not heard the Ultrasone Pro 550, but I have experience with the HFI-580 and HFI-780, and these are a big step up in bass sound quality. See this review, and notice how the HE-400 rating compares to other headphones in that list: http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HE400

Thx! Added them, I'll do some research. 

They are more expensive in Europe though, found them for 400 Euros.

post #9 of 25
Ask in the HE-400 discussion thread. Perhaps someone there knows where to buy them cheaper in your location smily_headphones1.gif
http://www.head-fi.org/t/604583/hifiman-he-400-impressions-and-discussion-thread
post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 

I rewrote my first post. 

 

Why are there so many choices out there!

post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 

Bump

 

Need some help deciding!

 

I'll be getting 2 cans, but I need some help for the second pair. I decided to get the DT990 pro for the more bassier songs, but I want a more neutral one too and can't decide which one.

 

* Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro 

 

* HD600, HD650, AKG K701, AKG Q701???? help help help

post #12 of 25

Definitely HD600. 

post #13 of 25
If you're already getting DT990 for bass, you can forgo HD650 and probably also Q701.

K70x is more open-sounding and has better soundstage; it's also more resolving. It has a crisp overall sound. HD600 is relaxing with a darker sound. It succeeds by being moderate.

The question is whether you want to balance the somewhat aggressive DT990 with a slightly aggressive model of a different sort (K70x) or with a relaxing one (HD600).
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 

Hhmm the way you describe it, it looks like I will enjoy the HD600 more. I do like the look of the K701 but that's not what matters ofcourse. 

I do listen mostly to songs that require a good performing bass, as I read it the K701 might sound to harsh with my music. 

 

HD600: 285 Euros

HD650: 333 Euros

K701: 195 Euros

Q701: 248 Euros

 

Really got into Koan Sound, they have some very nice music.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXyW-oyc7-c


Edited by SpArkLeS - 4/14/14 at 8:01am
post #15 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

If you're already getting DT990 for bass, you can forgo HD650 and probably also Q701.

K70x is more open-sounding and has better soundstage; it's also more resolving. It has a crisp overall sound. HD600 is relaxing with a darker sound. It succeeds by being moderate.

The question is whether you want to balance the somewhat aggressive DT990 with a slightly aggressive model of a different sort (K70x) or with a relaxing one (HD600).


+1 

I had the Q701, not the K701, but it has a bright sound. Doesn't contrast particularly well with the DT-990 IMO, as the DT-990 is also bright. 

If you haven't bought the DT-990 yet, I strongly recommend getting the HE-400 instead. They have a similar overall flavor (V-shaped, aggressive, analytical), but the HE-400 is just better in the technicalities. Deeper, harder-hitting bass, more detail, better separation and imaging. 

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