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Just read all 188 pages. Wow what a lot of work. biggrin.gif

I'm new to the world of headphones and just bought my first rig.

I am a Oppo HA-1 and Sennheiser HD 700 owner. I don't think I did too bad for a starter.

However I want to get a second set of cans. Something a lot dirtier sounding. The Senny's are too polite for some music. I want something that is rolled of on treble and fatter in the mid- range and bass.

Compared to the Senny's will the Oppo cans be a good choice?

Or should I look at the Audeze (damn they look uncomfortable), HiFiMan.
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I say upgrade to the HD800 from the HD700 and then go for the Oppo PM-1..

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Originally Posted by Badas View Post

Just read all 188 pages. Wow what a lot of work. biggrin.gif

I'm new to the world of headphones and just bought my first rig.

I am a Oppo HA-1 and Sennheiser HD 700 owner. I don't think I did too bad for a starter.

However I want to get a second set of cans. Something a lot dirtier sounding. The Senny's are too polite for some music. I want something that is rolled of on treble and fatter in the mid- range and bass.

Compared to the Senny's will the Oppo cans be a good choice?

Or should I look at the Audeze (damn they look uncomfortable), HiFiMan.

 

You may want to try the Oppo PM-1, they definitely will suit your needs.  Audeze headphones will also do what you want them to.  They look comfortable, but are quite heavy.  The new HiFiMans are very comfy as well, at the same level as the Oppo, slightly better due to the dual-layered headband.  If you go with a new HiFiMan, the HE-400i would be my suggestion.  If you want an older model, the HE-500 might be worth a look. 

 

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I say upgrade to the HD800 from the HD700 and then go for the Oppo PM-1..

 

Upgrade to the HD800?  I've read that these tend to be an extremely bright phone, definitely not rolled off by any means.

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Upgrade to the HD800?  I've read that these tend to be an extremely bright phone, definitely not rolled off by any means.

 

They are - what you think about the HD700?

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Originally Posted by Badas View Post

Just read all 188 pages. Wow what a lot of work. biggrin.gif

I'm new to the world of headphones and just bought my first rig.

I am a Oppo HA-1 and Sennheiser HD 700 owner. I don't think I did too bad for a starter.

However I want to get a second set of cans. Something a lot dirtier sounding. The Senny's are too polite for some music. I want something that is rolled of on treble and fatter in the mid- range and bass.

Compared to the Senny's will the Oppo cans be a good choice?

Or should I look at the Audeze (damn they look uncomfortable), HiFiMan.


I doubt that the PM-1 will be as big a change as you might be expecting; it sounds to me like you might be more interested in an LCD-2 or a Sig Pro.

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They are - what you think about the HD700?

I like. But it is my first headphone. So I have nothing to compare. They do sound evolving are very light and comfortable. I will keep them. Just want to run two cans.

I am into HT big time. Always have been. So I have two massive power amps and three big subs (two SVS SB Ultra 13's) for my stereo listening. Actually have a 7.3 channel setup. So very use to heavy bass. Kinda what I want in a HP.

Something a little different. I got my Senny's working with a triple buttkicker system. That was kinda fun.
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I doubt that the PM-1 will be as big a change as you might be expecting; it sounds to me like you might be more interested in an LCD-2 or a Sig Pro.

Yes. That is what I'm thinking. Maybe the PM-1 will also be too polite. Think I might have to go to a LC2. It is also in my price range. Comfort is a concern. I haven't heard of a Sig Pro. I will look into it.
Edited by Badas - 7/12/14 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

They are - what you think about the HD700?

I like. But it is my first headphone. So I have nothing to compare. They do sound evolving are very light and comfortable. I will keep them. Just want to run two cans.

I am into HT big time. Always have been. So I have two massive power amps and three big subs (two SVS SB Ultra 13's) for my stereo listening. Actually have a 7.3 channel setup. So very use to heavy bass. Kinda what I want in a HP.

Something a little different. I got my Senny's working with a triple buttkicker system. That was kinda fun.
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post


I doubt that the PM-1 will be as big a change as you might be expecting; it sounds to me like you might be more interested in an LCD-2 or a Sig Pro.

Yes. That is what I'm thinking. Maybe the PM-1 will also be too polite. Think I might have to go to a LC2. It is also in my price range. Comfort is a concern. I haven't heard of a Sig Pro. I will look into it.

I don't have any experience with the LC2, but based on comments here it seems they are very close to the same sound as the PM-1.
Some say they like the LC2 better, and some say they like the PM-1 better.
Keep in mind also, that the Oppo PM-2 will be also be released soon too, and they are almost identical to the PM-1 aside from some construction materials.
The PM-1 and PM-2 will share the same planar drivers, with the option of sound being altered through different interchangeable ear pads.
So far it looks like they will have at least 3 different ear pads to choose form. Who knows how many more they may add.
It should be very interesting and exciting once they are released to market and see what owners say about how they sound with all the different ear pads.
Also, the PM-2 will be several hundred dollars cheaper than the PM-1. My prediction is the PM-2 will by far be the best selling headphone ever in the >$500 arena.

Now, having said all that, if you think the PM-1 or PM-2 may be good for you, then I would recommend them over the LC2.
If not for the sound alone, but for the customization and price over the competition. (some people also say the PM-1 is lighter and thus more comfortable than the LC2 as well)

Lastly (and maybe even more importantly), since you are looking for a very specific sound, if I were you, I would look into adding a separate EQ to your setup and experiment with that.
Just using that could give you the exact sound you want from the headphones you love the most.
Personally, I would try that before I went out and bought additional high end headphones.
That's not what everyone else does by any means, but just food for thought.
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Originally Posted by Badas View Post


Something a little different. I got my Senny's working with a triple buttkicker system. That was kinda fun.
Yes. That is what I'm thinking. Maybe the PM-1 will also be too polite. Think I might have to go to a LC2. It is also in my price range. Comfort is a concern. I haven't heard of a Sig Pro. I will look into it.

I would recommending trying a pair of LCD-2 before buying if comfort is a concern... I had a LCD-2 and LCD-3...They were way too uncomfortable for me..

 

The PM-1 comfort is very good... (As long as your ears aren't too big)

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Originally Posted by Badas View Post


I like. But it is my first headphone. So I have nothing to compare. They do sound evolving are very light and comfortable. I will keep them. Just want to run two cans.

I am into HT big time. Always have been. So I have two massive power amps and three big subs (two SVS SB Ultra 13's) for my stereo listening. Actually have a 7.3 channel setup. So very use to heavy bass. Kinda what I want in a HP.

Something a little different. I got my Senny's working with a triple buttkicker system. That was kinda fun.
Yes. That is what I'm thinking. Maybe the PM-1 will also be too polite. Think I might have to go to a LC2. It is also in my price range. Comfort is a concern. I haven't heard of a Sig Pro. I will look into it.

 

If you can, demo them both along with the HiFiMan cans before you make your decision.  

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If you can, demo them both along with the HiFiMan cans before you make your decision.  




Yip. I am going to do that.

I really think LCD2 at this stage. It would also be nice to have something that is wood and not plastic.

I have noticed that my Senny's are changing in sound. Or maybe it is the Oppo HA-1???. Both are new. Do these things need break in?
Edited by Badas - 7/12/14 at 10:04pm
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Yes they need break in
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Yip. I am going to do that.

I really think LCD2 at this stage. It would also be nice to have something that is wood and not plastic.

I have noticed that my Senny's are changing in sound. Or maybe it is the Oppo HA-1???. Both are new. Do these things need break in?

 

The HA-1 amp is solid state right?  I doubt that would burn in...  Some people say tubes do, I'm not sure about it.  I know headphones can burn in though. 

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The HA-1 amp is solid state right?  I doubt that would burn in...  Some people say tubes do, I'm not sure about it.  I know headphones can burn in though. 

Capacitors in electronics have a burn in time. Other components in the analog path may require some burn in as well in the HA-1 and a few users have reported a difference after some time.
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Capacitors in electronics have a burn in time. Other components in the analog path may require some burn in as well in the HA-1 and a few users have reported a difference after some time.

 

You may be right, everything on the analog path (part of the amplifier) can possibly break in.  The things leading up to the DAC cannot.  0's and 1's remain 0's and 1's regardless of how "burned in" the path/route is :p 

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Originally Posted by x RELIC x View Post

Capacitors in electronics have a burn in time. Other components in the analog path may require some burn in as well in the HA-1 and a few users have reported a difference after some time.

Yeah, I'm sure the HA-1 has changed sonically over time as well. I also use it as a pre-amp. When I first installed I tested on speakers and was a bit worried about the sound. It was kinda nice but lifeless. I had replaced a Arcam DAC which sounded better. Now tho it has come alive. Nice blending of the bass. The powered subs are blending beautifully with the main speakers. Harshness has dropped off.

I still need another pair of cans tho. The Senny's are very bright.
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