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post #1966 of 3442

Don't forget, when comparing the PM-1 and LCD-3, to leave out the price difference (and yes, I'm talking about US pricing) $1100 vs. $1800.  That $700 goes a long, long way towards something else!

post #1967 of 3442

I could live with $ = € (taxes included)

but not what it's like now.

 

I rather get another planar.


Edited by frix - 5/12/14 at 4:59am
post #1968 of 3442
I'd like to ask whether those of us in the UK lucky enough to have friends who travel to the US would have warranty cover direct from Oppo if we have issues.

I hope to get the pm2, but only if I can get it at the $ price.
This isn't a 'consumer statement' on my part, I just can't afford any more than that.

To be honest, even the $ price of the pm2 will result in me living beyond my means, but I can't blame Oppo or even Oppo UK for that.
post #1969 of 3442
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Originally Posted by scootermafia View Post
 

Can't say that I've ever seen a headphone be more misinterpreted and misunderstood than the PM-1.  Regardless of the understanding you think you have of them from the charts, complainers should actually try them before you decide how they sound. 

 

The people complaining in this thread are coming off as insecure and immature. It's as if multiple quality headphones can't exist so they need to bash headphones that they've never heard in order to feel better about their past purchases. I don't get why it matters to them if people enjoy the PM-1, it doesn't take away from their listening experience with whatever headphone they have. I also don't get why they feel the need to try and tell people with these headphones that they are wrong in enjoying them, it's really tiring and reflects poorly on the community. There's a reason why many people are hugely turned off from visiting Head-Fi anymore and it's because of this huge negative mob mentality. This quote really sums up everything I hear people complain about on other audio forums:

 

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Originally Posted by noxa View Post

Can anyone actually point me in the direction to find some listening impressions in this thread? Read the first 22 pages of pointless rambling to no avail.

 

It's now over 100 pages and it's still pointless rambling. The people complaining about pricing have been given an actual option of a productive place to complain, but instead they choose to whine here and it's showing absolutely no sign of stopping. I'm tired of reading the same 4-5 people destroy this thread, so with that said, I'm done with it. 

 

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Originally Posted by Thad-E-Ginathom View Post
 

A good recommendation. Most of us, if and when we buy, won't have had the chance to listen first

 

 

Every single person has a 30 day period to return them for a full refund. You certainly do have a chance to listen, no obligations.


Edited by keanex - 5/12/14 at 5:52am
post #1970 of 3442
I'm going to stick it out, as these headphones really interest me, and I can always ignore posts which don't interest me.

The prospect of Oppo launching other portable gear is VERY interesting.
Since they already make mobile phones, maybe they'll consider an 'audiophile phone'?
post #1971 of 3442

Please get back to impressions topic.   

post #1972 of 3442

Guys -- Please stick to headphone impressions in this thread. 

post #1973 of 3442
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Originally Posted by keanex View Post

The HD800 don't come with it, nor do the LCD2. They cost either more or about the same.

Edit: And correct me if I'm wrong but aren't third party cables for the HD800 very expensive for any type?
So what you are saying is because other manufacturers don't give the user a choice to select cable termination Oppo shouldn't either? My gear is unbalanced but if I had balanced gear it would be pretty annoying (and expensive) to get another cable and use the stock one for drying laundry. They released a balanced amplifier. From a sales's perspective offering balanced cable instead of single ended would results in better PM/HA combo sales.

HD800 cables are more expensive due to connectors that attach to the headphone being very expensive. Whats you point?


Anyone got pricing info on the balanced cables yet?
post #1974 of 3442

With the sensitivity of the Oppo's, why in the world would anyone feel the need to run balanced?

post #1975 of 3442
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Originally Posted by swspiers View Post
 

With the sensitivity of the Oppo's, why in the world would anyone feel the need to run balanced?

 

 

The more esoteric the setup, the larger the confirmation bias is to the audiophile.

post #1976 of 3442
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post


The more esoteric the setup, the larger the confirmation bias is to the audiophile.

Truer words were never spoken. People feel the need to justify their exorbitant purchases in as many ways possible.

If you do any sort of homework, you'd see that any and every headphone even remotely popular is known to scale with the best amps, etc, available, regardless of how sensitive they are.

I stopped believing such BS ages ago.
post #1977 of 3442
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


Truer words were never spoken. People feel the need to justify their exorbitant purchases in as many ways possible.

If you do any sort of homework, you'd see that any and every headphone even remotely popular is known to scale with the best amps, etc, available, regardless of how sensitive they are.

I stopped believing such BS ages ago.

Aw, you're bad for business. :D

post #1978 of 3442
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Originally Posted by joe View Post
 

Guys -- Please stick to headphone impressions in this thread. 

 

Please tell us where to discuss legitimate concerns.

post #1979 of 3442
Can anyone recommend an American based seller that will ship worldwide at all?
post #1980 of 3442

I think the Oppo PM1 is the king of phones for dealing with bad recordings.

 

Last night I listened to (and watched on my Oppo 105D) a DVD of some old TV concerts (ABC's In Concert) with vintage performances I love (Chuck Berry, Allman Bros., The Kinks, more...).

On my other phones that I use a lot (HD800s, Grados), the distortion from the bad recording quality (taken by someone from old video tapes, probably 2 or more generations of copies) is annoying

and painful even. There is some sort of static and over-saturation of the high frequencies, even some sort of clicking.

 

But the Oppo PM1s handled it with amazing grace, walking the line perfectly between resolution and rolloff. My old Senn 650s would just make things sound masked to suppress this.

Since I collect and enjoy these lesser quality vintage recordings of live performances (video and audio), the Oppo phones are a godsend.

 

So I can see where people are seeing similarities to the Senn 600 and 650 in this area, but the Oppo handles things with much better refinement and far less less of a big hammer or bulldozer approach.

And bad quality recordings (maybe not as bad as my ancient DVDs) are everywhere, especially if you like older music.

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